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E60 / E61 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series E60 Sedan was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E61 wagon followed shortly there after. The E60/E61 5 series is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 01-22-2015, 03:25 PM
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Unhappy I lost a race to a pontaic grand prix...

We were both stopped at a red light. Beyond the light, the two lanes merge in to one. On green, we both floor it, and we were evenly matched until I had to brake.

I expected more from my BMW (E60 530XI auto). Is it really as fast as a cheap pontiac in 0-60? Mind you, my exhaust VANOS solenoid isn't working right now, but even still, I expected to come out at least a little ahead.

What are your thoughts and feelings about this? Should I be looking for things to fix on my car, or should I just drive around with shame knowing it's just a regular car under the hood.

(Bav Tech says everything's okay except that solenoid)
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Old 01-22-2015, 03:30 PM
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It's just another car under the hood. Except everything under the hood is extremely expensive. Not sure about the 530Xi, but my wife's 528Xi is 230 HP. LOTS of cars with more HP than that. These cars aren't powerhouses, but they will outhandle most cars like crazy!
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:07 PM
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Haha don't get down and out, yes they are as quick as your heavy 530xi but you have twice the material(leather), 3 times as much electronics, bigger car, and have all wheel drive. The gt is quick and the gtp is fast as Hell but is supercharged. Just cause it cost more don't make it faster. My little civics made a lot of domestic guys cry. Plus when people ask what kind of car he drives he is the one to say Pontiac . So that's a win for you.
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:14 PM
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Don't confuse raw power with handling/solidity.
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Old 01-22-2015, 05:50 PM
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Haha don't get down and out, yes they are as quick as your heavy 530xi but you have twice the material(leather), 3 times as much electronics, bigger car, and have all wheel drive. The gt is quick and the gtp is fast as Hell but is supercharged. Just cause it cost more don't make it faster. My little civics made a lot of domestic guys cry. Plus when people ask what kind of car he drives he is the one to say Pontiac . So that's a win for you.
And I bet he doesn't turn around to look at it when he parks it!
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Old 01-22-2015, 05:56 PM
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Haha. I thought I was the only one that turned around to look after parking. It is so damn sexy. I have had fast cars in the past but nothing comes close to the ulitmate driving machine.
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Old 01-22-2015, 05:57 PM
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Old 01-22-2015, 05:58 PM
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Race his ass in the rain and see who wins. Lol
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:00 PM
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Hah thanks guys, the handling is wicked. I can only imagine what it's like to have a hydraulic piston on the sway bar.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:04 PM
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Haha. I thought I was the only one that turned around to look after parking. It is so damn sexy. I have had fast cars in the past but nothing comes close to the ulitmate driving machine.
Great looking Car.Love the wheels. Here is my 08 550 summer and winter:
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:06 PM
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Is the 530xi a turbo? If so there are some piggy back ecu upgrades that will do the trick.
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Is the 530xi a turbo? If so there are some piggy back ecu upgrades that will do the trick.
Johnny...Is that Plasti-dip on your wheels or did you powder coat them? They really good black. I was thinking of doing the same
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:32 PM
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:36 PM
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The wheels have been plastidipped. They were like that when I bought the car. I love it.
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Honestly I won't race with a Pontiac it's a disgrace for my bimmer.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:44 PM
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Excuse the poor quality. I just wanted to jump on the bandwagon before it's too late :P

Rims are ronals off of god knows what. The offset's a little off but I like it.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:54 PM
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Don't bring a driver's car to a drag race unless you know you have the hp/wt advantage, which you didn't. If you want to race light to light get a Mustang, Camaro, etc or buy a much more expensive BMW. Otherwise, appreciate the car for what it is.
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Old 01-22-2015, 07:06 PM
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We were both stopped at a red light. Beyond the light, the two lanes merge in to one. On green, we both floor it, and we were evenly matched until I had to brake.

I expected more from my BMW (E60 530XI auto). Is it really as fast as a cheap pontiac in 0-60? Mind you, my exhaust VANOS solenoid isn't working right now, but even still, I expected to come out at least a little ahead.

What are your thoughts and feelings about this? Should I be looking for things to fix on my car, or should I just drive around with shame knowing it's just a regular car under the hood.

(Bav Tech says everything's okay except that solenoid)

530 is the top trim straight-six motor before they started detuning the NA straight six to segment the market when the 535 came out. If I'm not mistaken, the N52B30 w/2x DISA is THE single most powerful NA, non-M 3.0L straight six, AND the lightest BMW has ever made. it has hydroformed camshafts and a magnesium/aluminum hybrid block! think about it, you have a 5 series with AWD, and an automatic transmission, and it is LIGHTER than bmw's last M3, and only 50# heavier than the current one. that's nothing to sneeze at.

OP, you have a 3.0L engine that WITH the VANOS working properly, makes 255hp, and 229tq. without, it makes less tq and hp. maybe 15-20hp less. the 528xi had only one DISA flap (530 has two), and that model had 238hp. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N52

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac...2.80.932008.29
the GP has 800cc more engine than you, so if yours is broken, who can say?


Anyways the gran prix is in the 3400-3600lb weight range, and you're in the 3600-3700 range. so you're not gonna win if your engine is broken. and he's got more torque anyways.

I owned a 530xi and I loved it. it wasn't the fastest car in the world, but it could get out of it's own way and was always satisfying to wring out. I also averaged 25MPG overall, and looked good in the process. just because you own a well built car doesn't make it a straight line monster - and there will ALWAYS be someone faster than you. Go buy a hellcat, and someone will have a faster one than you!


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Haha. I thought I was the only one that turned around to look after parking. It is so damn sexy.
I do this EVERY time I park. didn't think I would, tbh.

oh, and NO STREET RACING! BAD OP, BAD!
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Old 01-22-2015, 07:20 PM
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It honestly wasn't much of a race. Just a "first off the line" sort of thing, maybe 100-200 feet. I'd never drive (too) unsafely or risk anyone else's life/car.

Maybe it's the cold (and the VANOS), but my car gets me an average 21 MPG.
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Old 01-22-2015, 08:06 PM
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How many miles are on the car? You may want to have a compression test done just for assurance.
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Old 01-22-2015, 08:22 PM
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It's a 2007 with just over 100k on it (that's miles, FYI). I will look in to doing a compression test, thanks. My hoses/CV boots, and other rubber parts are still in great condition, but I suppose some gaskets are getting to that point where they're due to be changed out, eh?

I bought this car used back in October, along with a bavarian technic tool. It looks like it was probably maintained to BMW specs, and since then I've been fixing it, changing out lifetime fluids, and it's virtually error-free. I suppose that only means nothing's broken, not that it's in perfect running condition.

On that note, I know I can get some engine specs from my bavarian technic program. Can I use these in any way to check the health of my systems? It's kind of hard when I don't have anything to compare the values I see to.
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Didn't Pontiac have a version of the Grand Prix with an V8?

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Old 01-22-2015, 08:29 PM
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Didn't Pontiac have a version of the Grand Prix with an V8?



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The G8. I mistake those for an E90 M3 all the time from a distance. Not sure if it's good for them or bad for us.
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Old 01-22-2015, 09:46 PM
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It's a 2007 with just over 100k on it (that's miles, FYI). I will look in to doing a compression test, thanks. My hoses/CV boots, and other rubber parts are still in great condition, but I suppose some gaskets are getting to that point where they're due to be changed out, eh?

I bought this car used back in October, along with a bavarian technic tool. It looks like it was probably maintained to BMW specs, and since then I've been fixing it, changing out lifetime fluids, and it's virtually error-free. I suppose that only means nothing's broken, not that it's in perfect running condition.

On that note, I know I can get some engine specs from my bavarian technic program. Can I use these in any way to check the health of my systems? It's kind of hard when I don't have anything to compare the values I see to.
I had mine from 85k to over 100k. All I did was plugs at 100k. everything was so clean and it ran so well I didn't feel the need to bother with a compression test.

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Didn't Pontiac have a version of the Grand Prix with an V8?

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Yes they did. check the wiki link i posted above for it. Also, nice 550!

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