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E60 / E61 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series E60 Sedan was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E61 wagon followed shortly there after. The E60/E61 5 series is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 03-30-2012, 04:23 PM
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Unhappy 545i Vibration above 55mph not from wheels

Hello , i am out of options please help . I have a vibration that starts arround 55-60 mph and fells like it goes away above 90mph , it's not like a wheel vibration feels like the drive shaft it;s out of balance or some kind of bearing vibration . The vibration it's not bad , i can feel it as it's my car other passengers cannot feel it unless you really concentrate on it . Once again wheels are not the problem i swap all 4 wheels with my friends bmw wheels and the vibration is still there . I installed brand new center bearing and new guibo and still no improvment . Can the drive shaft be unbalanced or some kind of internal tranny problem ? it's a 2005 545i 69k miles . THank you very much in advance .

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Old 03-30-2012, 05:13 PM
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What about a suspenion rod bushing? I had a vibration in my 2008 and that is what it was.
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Old 03-30-2012, 05:13 PM
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I am having the exact problem with my 2007 550i. Vibration starts around 60mph and is gone at about 80mph. Vibration is on driver's side mostly (slight in passenger's side), not in the steering wheel. Basically you feel it in the seat as if the chassis is shaking. I replaced tires, had 4 wheels straightend and rebalanced twice. My next step is to replace guibo and driver's side wheel bearing. I've been chasing this problem for a year now. Sorry I can't offer any assistance, and I'll let you know if I ever figure it out and hopefully you can share your solution with others as well once resolved!
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Old 03-30-2012, 05:44 PM
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Munich77 had your vibration have the same symptoms as mine and MSAMMY ? SAMMY my vibration feels like are in the middle of the car somewhere in the driveline . Feels the same on driver seat and passanger seat and same as you i don't feel anything in the steering wheel . This is really bugging me ....

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Old 03-30-2012, 06:48 PM
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That's exactly it! The shake is in the floor in the center of the car. It can be felt mostly in the driver's seat and less on the front passenger side. I agree, it is really annoying. You'd think if it's a bad bearing, it would be howling like a bastard, but no noise whatsoever. Try applying the parking brake when up to speed and the car will shake like crazy and make a rapid thump-thump-thump sound.
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Old 03-30-2012, 09:25 PM
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545i Vibration above 55mph not from wheels

I havent tried to apply parking brake but i remembered something else , if i put in Neutral at high speed it gets worst , In neutral even the passengers can feel it .
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Old 03-30-2012, 09:52 PM
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Good info, will give that a try. We will figure this out!
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Old 03-31-2012, 05:56 AM
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Munich77 had your vibration have the same symptoms as mine and MSAMMY ? SAMMY my vibration feels like are in the middle of the car somewhere in the driveline . Feels the same on driver seat and passanger seat and same as you i don't feel anything in the steering wheel . This is really bugging me ....
For me it was a shaking steering wheel between 50 and 60 mph. You could actually see the wheel shake.
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Old 03-31-2012, 06:49 AM
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Good info, will give that a try. We will figure this out!
Let me know if yours does the same in neutral , i'm so curious . I asked at some local shops and they said that usually vibrations and stuff like that appear when under load and sometimes go away in neutral , but mine is opposite and they said they have no idea , i still bellive it has something to do with the drive shaft or diverential . I was almost positive that it was the guibo or center bearing but they were not ...
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:50 PM
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OK, I had a chance tonight on a long drive home and I put it in neutral in various speeds between 60-78 MPH and the vibration/shake in the seat/chassis is still there, did not change, no better, no worse, just still there. I want to change out the rear wheels, guibo and rear wheel bearings but I'm not sure if that will solve this. This is very annoying, my race car just hit 51K miles and I hate driving it at high speeds. This will take more time to resolve.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:54 AM
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I would try to get under the car, pan off, and look at the Guibo first. I had a 1989 535i that did the same exact thing, and was cured with the part. Look for oil soaking, crumbling rubber around the through-bolts and any scrape-marks around the tunnel. The only other thing that I could think of besides this would be a weight having fallen off of your driveshaft, and possibly a wheel bearing in the rear.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:23 PM
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My car did this and it ended up being due to several bent rims. Once I had them straightened, my problem was solved.

I was really ticked that my tire installer didn't notice or tell me about it. My local dealer was trying to help me with my alignment and said I had bent rims. If you put your rims and tires on a balancing machine, it's pretty easy to tell the rim is bent when it spins them for balancing. You can see the rim move back and forth as it turns.

I'm not sure when or how this happened but it could have happened before I bought the car.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:24 PM
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look at the Guibo first.
What the heck's a Guibo? Never heard of such.
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Old 07-06-2014, 07:23 AM
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Have a similar problem in my 550i but my vibration is harmonic in nature. It builds and dissipates builds and dissipates kind of like MMMMmmmmm. MMMMmmmmm MMMMmmmmm. Tried running it in neutral at various speeds etc Gets worse at higher speeds. Can feel it in the steering wheel but feels like it's from the rear end. Puzzled?


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Old 07-28-2014, 12:32 PM
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Hey Ipcsman

Hey i have Exactly the same symptoms on my 7series E66 and i mean exactly, and its doing my head in, did you cure it and if so how, any help would be great for my sanity and pocket haha
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Old 07-28-2014, 12:48 PM
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Its still not fixed , i've changed the drive shaft with another used one and no diffrence

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Old 07-28-2014, 01:10 PM
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Oh hell, well just so you know i have checked the geomerty, tracking four wheels balanced, and both top and bottom arms on the front its getting worse !!! Ps mine feels more like a wobble than a vibe, but identical symptoms
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Old 07-28-2014, 01:46 PM
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Guibo is a bushing in the drivetrain, can it go bad? Sure, but that is extremely rare in the E60 (I have heard of 1 case in 8 years of owning E60s) . What is MUCH more common in the E60 is the deterioration of the control arm bushings which will certainly make it seem like you have a bent wheel and it will vibrate at speed.
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Old 07-28-2014, 01:51 PM
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I replaced my Quibo joint 4 months ago and both top and bottom control arms in the last 4 weeks, stil feels like a washing machine on spin cycle, well not that bad, but its annoying me Now, andy
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Old 07-28-2014, 01:55 PM
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I replaced my Quibo joint 4 months ago and both top and bottom control arms in the last 4 weeks, stil feels like a washing machine on spin cycle, well not that bad, but its annoying me Now, andy
At that point I would wonder if the car was in an accident. If after control arms, tie rods, Guibo, and alignment it still vibrates? Something is very wrong, you can go out on a limb and say maybe motor/transmission mounts are bad. If none of that works the car probably had an accident that was never reported and the frame is screwed. The front subframe on these cars is NOT steel, it is aluminum, so it doesn't take a huge crash o cause frame damage. And if you've ever tried t straighten aluminum foil after you crumple it, aluminum doesn't ever really get straight again.
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Old 07-28-2014, 02:51 PM
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Mine never been in a accident , i swap wheels form my buddy's 545 , new guibo , new center bearing , another used shaft with velocity joint i am really out of options , i belive that something is wrong in the rear end or tranny , but i stopped looking for a answer its been the same for past 3 years didnt get worst or better .

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Old 07-28-2014, 02:54 PM
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I will probably find the problem after the part its gonna fail conpletly , if it will ever fail lol

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Omg !!!!
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Old 07-28-2014, 03:19 PM
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Mine never been in a accident , i swap wheels form my buddy's 545 , new guibo , new center bearing , another used shaft with velocity joint i am really out of options , i belive that something is wrong in the rear end or tranny , but i stopped looking for a answer its been the same for past 3 years didnt get worst or better .

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LOL, typically vibration at speed indicates a front end problem. Especially if you have steering wheel vibration. I would be looking at the tie rod ends, control arm bushings, even sway bar end links first. All of which are cheaper parts to buy, easier to install, and a FAR more common issue on the E60 than the guibo. Whoever made you replace the guibo was most likely VERY misguided.
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I have been chasing the same issue. At speed 65 70ish The vibration comes and goes in rhythm, seems to vibrate for 2 seconds off for 2 seconds and back over and over until I slow. My control arm bushings look fine. My sway bar end link rubbers look bad (just ordered new lemmys). I bought new wheels and tires not to long ago and that didnt fix it so.
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