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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 08-03-2014, 08:16 PM
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Red face Advice Needed! Should I keep my 2011 Xdrive50i

So I recently purchased a 2011 X5 Xdrive50i N63 with 48K Miles. Within the first 1K miles it started shaking and CEL came on. Black **** was coming out of left exhaust and the shaking settled once I was moving along. Long story short BMW changed all the fuel injectors and now it feels great.

Now there are 750 miles left on the warranty and the check engine light just came back on. I'm not sure what the issue is but I'm worried once it's out of warranty this is going to be an ongoing issue. I just bought it and put a trailer hitch on so I'd hate to sell it but I hear bad things about this motor. Should I just buy an aftermarket warranty or get out now and sell the car since the factory warranty is ending?
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:45 AM
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Really? I just looked in my crystal ball and it shows you having great fun in this truck. I did see some multi page service bills but the ball was not clear enough to see the amounts. If you send me half the amount of an extended warranty I will see if the ball clears.

Did you join via smartphone and then text this question while driving? Think for goodness sake.
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Old 08-04-2014, 09:04 AM
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^Damn Funny

OP- Why not a BMW warranty?

If you will loose more money dumping the car than the cost of the warranty, then buy a warranty. A BMW Gold plan 6/100 can be had for 3000-3500
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:18 AM
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^Damn Funny

OP- Why not a BMW warranty?

If you will loose more money dumping the car than the cost of the warranty, then buy a warranty. A BMW Gold plan 6/100 can be had for 3000-3500
I didn't find it that funny lol. My question should have been more specific. I am asking if anyone has had recurring trouble with their xdrive50i around 50K miles and if the motor is indeed inherently full of issues.

To your point regarding the warranty. I am debating between the BMW CPO and an aftermarket like carchex, although BMW quoted me around $4500. It is true though that a warranty is probably a better idea than taking a loss on flipping the car now.

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Old 08-04-2014, 10:38 AM
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you cant buy a CPO.

You need a better quote- 4500 is 'msrp', market is 1000 less.
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:06 PM
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you cant buy a CPO.

You need a better quote- 4500 is 'msrp', market is 1000 less.
I just went to BMW. They want $4300 for gold and $4830 for platinum and won't negotiate.

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Old 08-04-2014, 12:45 PM
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Then dont buy at that dealership! Pretty simple actually... find a dealer that will match 3500-3600 for the gold. You have no profile set up (love cell phone only members) but if we knew where you were maybe some other dealer options would open up.

Dealers dont negotiate because they think you have no choices... I **NEVER** do it in person, just over the phone. Call the Finance Manager on duty, explain you are shopping- you can get it for 3520 (pick a number) but would rather save the drive, could they match it. Repeat until someone says "yes"
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Old 08-04-2014, 03:07 PM
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Then dont buy at that dealership! Pretty simple actually... find a dealer that will match 3500-3600 for the gold. You have no profile set up (love cell phone only members) but if we knew where you were maybe some other dealer options would open up.

Dealers dont negotiate because they think you have no choices... I **NEVER** do it in person, just over the phone. Call the Finance Manager on duty, explain you are shopping- you can get it for 3520 (pick a number) but would rather save the drive, could they match it. Repeat until someone says "yes"
I just updated my profile info. Im located in Brooklyn NY. Really appreciate your help! Good to know they can actually negotiate, they were standing strong in person.
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:54 PM
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Lots of posts on this topic.

I had a quote from someone that I shopped around (NOT a sponsor). One local dealer quoted me $4570. I said "____ is offering 1000 off, so $3570- can you match that?". Guy replied "wow, that is a really good price, you should jump on it". So I said "Heres how it works- you think you are calling my blufff, but ___ is going to make a few hundred on the deal and you are making zero. For 10 minutes work." When he didnt say anything for a three-beat, I hung up.

That was one that didnt negotiate. Others do. Maybe you drive to jersey, or CT, or whatever. Out of the city. Lots of guys to contact-NOT via email. Call them, use their name- be precise, firm, confident- quick deal, no muss. "im buying this, the price will be XYZ, do you want to sell this to me?" You are projecting a perception of "I am busy, YOU are busy- lets not waste each others' time"

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Old 08-05-2014, 03:47 AM
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Opinion alert.

Another word for extended warranty is insurance. Insurance companies are in the business of NOT paying. They are for profit corporations. Corporations control government. Government mandates insurance. We are all way over insured.

Me, I roll the dice and self insure wherever possible. My 2012 5.0 is coming up on 80k. I drive it like I stole it whenever possible - most of the time. It has AD so it invites insane tests of the laws of physics. So far zero issues beyond regular maintenance

Plus an extremely high tire tax.

But, of course, taxes are not insurance.

Consider putting the $ you thought of paying to corporate profits into your kids IRA. Grow your own family wealth.

Just a thought with a little rant to get my day started.
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Old 08-05-2014, 08:59 AM
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Excellent points.

You should always come out ahead if you self insure.

If YOU can afford the risk of an big $$$$ repair, then skip the policy. But if you can't, then insurance is the way to mitigate this risk
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Old 08-08-2014, 03:39 PM
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Opinion alert.

Another word for extended warranty is insurance. Insurance companies are in the business of NOT paying. They are for profit corporations. Corporations control government. Government mandates insurance. We are all way over insured.

Me, I roll the dice and self insure wherever possible. My 2012 5.0 is coming up on 80k. I drive it like I stole it whenever possible - most of the time. It has AD so it invites insane tests of the laws of physics. So far zero issues beyond regular maintenance

Plus an extremely high tire tax.

But, of course, taxes are not insurance.

Consider putting the $ you thought of paying to corporate profits into your kids IRA. Grow your own family wealth.

Just a thought with a little rant to get my day started.
Really appreciate the advice! I'm bailing on the warranty. This is what I was looking to hear. I think the way you drive has something to do with it. I hear opening up the throttle on the 5.0 really clears it out.
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Old 08-08-2014, 04:47 PM
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:00 PM
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Really appreciate the advice! I'm bailing on the warranty. This is what I was looking to hear. I think the way you drive has something to do with it. I hear opening up the throttle on the 5.0 really clears it out.
If you change your mind I know at least one dealer near the city who has good prices for the Platinum. FWIW I bought the warranty for my 2011 X5 5.0. It's really not that hard to burn through 4k repairing an out of warranty BMW in the New York area.
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:32 AM
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If you change your mind I know at least one dealer near the city who has good prices for the Platinum. FWIW I bought the warranty for my 2011 X5 5.0. It's really not that hard to burn through 4k repairing an out of warranty BMW in the New York area.
It can't hurt to look into it. Can you pm me the info?

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Old 08-13-2014, 07:44 AM
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If you have any confidence that the repair of your '11 x5.0 is a one-and-done I'd say get the fix under warranty (that fix is also covered under a separate repair warranty for a while I believe) then you can think about keeping it and shop/haggle about an aftermarket or BMW warranty.

IF, on the other hand, you're feeling like the X5 is a disaster waiting to happen, while all the alerts, CELs/SES are off I'd look to trade out for something more dependable-reliable ...
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