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Old 08-11-2014, 09:04 PM
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Rear ended, how much damage do you think this is?

Hi guys, I just got my "new" used 328i about a week ago and...this is what happened.

My 328i got rear ended by a M3

Here are a few pictures...I hear the BMW is expensive to fix, but I wanted to gauge how much it will be.

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Old 08-12-2014, 02:20 PM
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Here is a better picture of the damaged side:

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Old 08-12-2014, 02:21 PM
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There's an easy 8k worth of damage to both cars
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Old 08-12-2014, 02:24 PM
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Shouldn't cost you a cent to fix. If you were rear ended, generally that's the fault of the other driver, and it falls under the responsibility of their insurance company to take care of the damages on your car. Either way, most of that looks pretty cosmetic. I'd venture $8,000-$10,000, but I'm not an appraiser.

Unrelated: I dig your 193M M-Sport wheels. Lookin' good. Perhaps I'm a bit biased.

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Old 08-12-2014, 02:27 PM
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I wonder what stage kit that M3 is running.

Or if he just has a sticker and is not actually supercharged...
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Old 08-12-2014, 02:30 PM
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Shouldn't cost you a cent to fix. If you were rear ended, generally that's the fault of the other driver, and it falls under the responsibility of their insurance company to take care of the damages on your car. Either way, most of that looks pretty cosmetic. I'd venture $8,000-$10,000, but I'm not an appraiser.

Unrelated: I dig your 193M M-Sport wheels. Lookin' good. Perhaps I'm a bit biased.

Thank you, sir. I like the cosmetics of the m sport as well.

All 7 days I got to drive on it...


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Old 08-12-2014, 02:40 PM
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That m3 is totaled, similar to my x5 which was less damage than that. Depending on the insurance, I wont be surprise if yours is totaled too. Bmw parts adds up real fast nearing threshold.
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Old 08-12-2014, 02:51 PM
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Unless there is frame damage, that M3 is most likely not totaled.

From what I can see....

New radiator, front carrier, FMIC, fender, hood, bumper, strut tower/support, headlight, strut, control arms, wheel, fender liners, washer fluid reservoir maybe new caliper and lines, ABS sensor.

I would say about 7k in parts. 3-4k in labor....11k won't total that M3.

A car is generally considered totaled when the repair costs exceed the car's value. I doubt that M3 is anything less than 25k.

But of course, just speculation...
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:23 PM
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Hi guys, I just got my "new" used 328i about a week ago and......I hear the BMW is expensive to fix, but I wanted to gauge how much it will be.

I bid $5k - how'd I do?
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:50 PM
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I would take that 328 to the best and most qualified body shop around who doesn't to compromise and uses only BMW parts. I would also ask them to see if it can be totaled.
Reason is that if this car is repaired - it will have serious accident on the record so resale value will be way down AND it will never ever drive the same.. I can see that geometry is twisted and no machine will fix it... I wouldn't want this car - not your fault get your money and buy one w/o accidents.
I see about $12k damage to 328 if you want it repaired but they can stretch more if you insist for no compromise...
I can only guess that if this car KBB values is about ~$22k - it has to be around $15k in damage to total it...
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:52 PM
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I would take that 328 to the best and most qualified body shop around who doesn't to compromise and uses only BMW parts. I would also ask them to see if it can be totaled.
Reason is that if this car is repaired - it will have serious accident on the record so resale value will be way down AND it will never ever drive the same.. I can see that geometry is twisted and no machine will fix it... I wouldn't want this car - not your fault get your money and buy one w/o accidents.
I see about $12k damage to 328 if you want it repaired but they can stretch more if you insist for no compromise...
I can only guess that if this car KBB values is about ~$22k - it has to be around $15k in damage to total it...
I'm going to have to agree with this one. That is gnarly man... If it were declared totaled that would be a miracle but most likely it won't and resale will be effected. Good luck!
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You drive a 320 so pretty sure you have nothing of value to contribute.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:54 PM
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Unless there is frame damage, that M3 is most likely not totaled.

From what I can see....

New radiator, front carrier, FMIC, fender, hood, bumper, strut tower/support, headlight, strut, control arms, wheel, fender liners, washer fluid reservoir maybe new caliper and lines, ABS sensor.

I would say about 7k in parts. 3-4k in labor....11k won't total that M3.

A car is generally considered totaled when the repair costs exceed the car's value. I doubt that M3 is anything less than 25k.

But of course, just speculation...
There is no frame in these cars but whole geometry is gone -no way to restore it to be like new. Front part and front suspension is pretty much gone.. M3 is totaled
Of course Insurance will sell it to junk yard... "smart" mechanics will buy and fix than sell to somebody who will go for a low price... unfortunately. So car is repairable but it will never be M3 ...I pretty much guarantee it.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:56 PM
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Cars are totaled not when repair exceed its value but limit is somewhere around 65- 70% of the car value.
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Old 08-12-2014, 04:10 PM
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I'm going to have to agree with this one. That is gnarly man... If it were declared totaled that would be a miracle but most likely it won't and resale will be effected. Good luck!
I think it is close to be totaled.. They key is not to take it to the shop insurance suggests (they always have deals to use cheaper parts ) but to the one which is not on insurance prefer ed list - in CA that is our legal right. I had similar case few years back - My e39 was rear ended and damage was not even near this...Car value was about $18k. I took it to ins preferred shop and they estimated $8k in repairs . you know how it works - shops want to quote low than ins let them repair and they keep finding more and more stuff and keep milking insurance...
I did not agree and took it to independent BMW specializing and expensive place because their policy was to use only new and only BMW parts and whatever they were doing they were to run by the dealer to verify. Ins hated that - tried really hard to tell me how difficult it is to deal with shops not on their list and they have to send agent every time there is a question etc etc....
Actually this shop guy asked me if I wanted to have it repaired - I said NO.. total it if you can... Of course shops don't like it as all the work they do - they don't get paid..but this shop charged insurance I believe so they were OK
So these guys first estimation was around $12k but they said to ins that that they think it will be be more if they open the panels...
So next day shop called me and said that ins agreed to total it..
And my ins (State Farm) actually is great because they paid me off based on average of 20 advertised prices for similar cars plus I told them about all the improvements I had and other stuff so I got enough money to buy one year younger and with half of the millage car ... you can always negotiate with insurance...If they don't want to pay you price you need you can ask them to find you same or very close to the same car...
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Old 08-12-2014, 11:29 PM
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Easy 22K in damage repairs if you want it back like new and take it to a real BMW body shop. Just any Auto Body Shop may hit you with 8-12K. But it will never be the same again. They should total that thing for real!

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Total was between $11k and $12k at the end of the day, using OEM parts. Accident happened about 45k miles ago. Except for the fact that the shop couldn't duplicate the orange peel effect in the factory paint, you can't see or feel any difference in the car from the day it was new.
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Total was between $11k and $12k at the end of the day, using OEM parts. Accident happened about 45k miles ago. Except for the fact that the shop couldn't duplicate the orange peel effect in the factory paint, you can't see or feel any difference in the car from the day it was new.
...and that $12k did not even include the driver rear quarter panel which the OP has damaged in the accident
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:03 AM
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I'm betting totaled. That rear fender you cannot replace is annoying and it is a 4 year old base model.

The M3 probably costs more to repair but it is also worth more, and you can replace the front fenders, my guess for it is not totaled.
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Total was between $11k and $12k at the end of the day, using OEM parts. Accident happened about 45k miles ago. Except for the fact that the shop couldn't duplicate the orange peel effect in the factory paint, you can't see or feel any difference in the car from the day it was new.
A good body shop will be able to match the factory orange peel.
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A good body shop will be able to match the factory orange peel.
I was trying to come up with some way to claim they needed to strip / repaint the rest of the car so that it matched the non-peel look!
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Total was between $11k and $12k at the end of the day, using OEM parts. Accident happened about 45k miles ago. Except for the fact that the shop couldn't duplicate the orange peel effect in the factory paint, you can't see or feel any difference in the car from the day it was new.
...and that's without major damage to the quarter panels. I'm going to say $13.5k for the OP's damage
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