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Old 09-01-2014, 10:31 PM
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Stripped bolt on '07 328i starter removal.

So there I am, knee deep in removing my starter. Every thing that's in the way, is out. My air filter box, throttle assembly, electrical distribution unit, and my intake manifold. I go to take the two bolts off holding the starter in place, I get the right one off perfect, boom good. Then I go to the left one and it's already stripped, rounded and all. and I didn't even touch it yet. I could tell someone had replaced the starter once before, and put two entirely different bolts on it. I tried a bolt extractor no luck, penetration oil did no help either. So I sent my girlfriend to Lowes for a Chisel, to cut a slice in it and use a Flathead to get it out. She comes back with a Irwin's "Grab It" tool similar to a easy out tool. That didn't work cause I couldn't get my drill back in that tiny space. So we both go back get the chisel, come back and long story short the entire bolt head is off and I'm in a worse situation than when I started. Any suggestions or tips on what I should do?


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Old 09-02-2014, 05:08 AM
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so is the starter held on by 2 long bolts and they are Al too. My 335 bentley book shows one from the front side and one thru the back, which one did you get out and which on did you strip the head off?

either way you should be able to slide the starter out if you twisted the head off?
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:58 AM
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Left hand drill bit and a flexible extension
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Old 09-02-2014, 11:32 AM
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I would go for the "drill out" I hear they are aluminum bolts, so they should be easy to drill out. I also hear they are supposed to be replaced when you replace the starter, sound like the last guy who replaced the starter did not do that.

If the drill out does not work and it comes down to it, I would cut a slit in the starter housing around the bolt and then chisel it till that part of the housing brakes off, then that should free it up.



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Old 09-02-2014, 11:41 AM
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Don't use a right hand drill bit.

It will spin the bolt further into the hole.

With a left hand bit, as your drilling it may catch and spin the bolt out of hole.

Start with a small bit, maybe 1/8" or 1/4"
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Old 09-02-2014, 01:15 PM
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I would go for the "drill out" I hear they are aluminum bolts, so they should be easy to drill out. I also hear they are supposed to be replaced when you replace the starter, sound like the last guy who replaced the starter did not do that.

If the drill out does not work and it comes down to it, I would cut a slit in the starter housing around the bolt and then chisel it till that part of the housing brakes off, then that should free it up.



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I would be more inclined to cut the starter housing apart first and once you removed the starter you can get a pair of vice grips on the bolt or if you know someone with a Tig welder, get an AL Nut big enough to slide over the head and TIG weld in on then try to unscrew it. that starter housing should not be tapped is it? you could cut the bolt flush with the starter housing and it should slid off? if there is enough room in front of the starter
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Old 09-02-2014, 04:10 PM
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that starter housing should not be tapped is it? you could cut the bolt flush with the starter housing and it should slid off? if there is enough room in front of the starter
I was thinking the same thing, but from what i see it looks like it is threaded, so even if the head of the bolt is off, the threads would keep it from sliding outů

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If the bolt head is off the starter should come off no threads in block only on short bolt rt side. It is corroded on the flange to the block. Chisel idea is the only way to go or saw try starter flange.

I.m sure this car has been in water over the starter.
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Old 09-02-2014, 05:48 PM
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I was thinking the same thing, but from what i see it looks like it is threaded, so even if the head of the bolt is off, the threads would keep it from sliding outů

No the threads would not keep it from coming out . It should come out bolt and all id head is off bolt
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:21 AM
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No the threads would not keep it from coming out . It should come out bolt and all id head is off bolt
if that is the correct starter, that makes no sense. that bolt should screw in from the back into the threads, as you see the bottom hole doesn't have threads and so that bolt should slide in from the front and the block should have the threads, actually every car I have worked on the starters and the block had no threads, they were all thru bolts and nuts on the ends
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:37 AM
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Old 09-03-2014, 01:04 PM
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I heard it was raining in your hood bro!

Looks like rain all week too....

here in the south we get the nasty afternoon thunder storms, that doesn't mean its raining all day
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Old 09-05-2014, 04:41 PM
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I found what the problem was some one out the bolt in backwards


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Glad that you got it off and (presumably) the new starter installed.

Unfortunately, you certainly won't be getting a core charge refund for the removed starter ...
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Awesome, whats up with the hose i heard you might have broke? What it a vacuum hose? Did they have it at the BMW shop?
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:37 PM
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Glad that you got it off and (presumably) the new starter installed.



Unfortunately, you certainly won't be getting a core charge refund for the removed starter ...

Yea I did lol AutoZone gladly took it. lol


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Awesome, whats up with the hose i heard you might have broke? What it a vacuum hose? Did they have it at the BMW shop?

Yea It was the Crankcase Breather hose. I found it online for like 40 bucks. But I can't wait long for it to get here. Luckily there is a BMW dealership close by, and the parts and service center is open on Saturdays. Hopefully they don't charge me an Arm an a Leg.


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Sorry forgot to let you guys know. Everything went well.
After I put everything back together my car was shaking pretty bad, so I tightened my manifold and throttle body and it went away. Then my check engine light came on and said I had misfires in cylinders 1, 3, and 4 so I took off my spark plugs wiped them off and wiped off my coils. Started it back up and ran it for a little while now everything is back to normal. Thank all of you for your help!


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Thanks for the follow up! Scary stuff for sure.
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Sorry forgot to let you guys know. Everything went well.
After I put everything back together my car was shaking pretty bad, so I tightened my manifold and throttle body and it went away. Then my check engine light came on and said I had misfires in cylinders 1, 3, and 4 so I took off my spark plugs wiped them off and wiped off my coils. Started it back up and ran it for a little while now everything is back to normal. Thank all of you for your help!


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that is why you need a torque wrench when you work on plastic parts on these cars and all New gaskets and bolts where directed and follow the tighten sequences, its a must so you dont have a manifold leak

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Sorry forgot to let you guys know. Everything went well.
After I put everything back together my car was shaking pretty bad, so I tightened my manifold and throttle body and it went away. Then my check engine light came on and said I had misfires in cylinders 1, 3, and 4 so I took off my spark plugs wiped them off and wiped off my coils. Started it back up and ran it for a little while now everything is back to normal. Thank all of you for your help!


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Mine did the same thing, I just let it smooth out and then it was okay. Happy for you that it all came out okay. Lots of good help here on the web. You saved 1200 dollars. Its worth the effort and a world of experience.
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Sorry forgot to let you guys know. Everything went well.
After I put everything back together my car was shaking pretty bad, so I tightened my manifold and throttle body and it went away. Then my check engine light came on and said I had misfires in cylinders 1, 3, and 4 so I took off my spark plugs wiped them off and wiped off my coils. Started it back up and ran it for a little while now everything is back to normal. Thank all of you for your help!


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Awesome, now we don't have to hitchhike back to *Cali*
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