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Old 01-12-2005, 03:16 PM
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I think you are getting a horrible deal. With 69+k miles on it id does not matter how well the engine is built. Parts were out. Edmunds.com quoted it for about 3 grand less then what they are charging. This is not the right car for you. You will find the right one don't worry. Good Luck
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does anyone else agree with dsheli? Am I getting screwed?
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does anyone else agree with dsheli? Am I getting screwed?
Personally, I agree. If I were you, I'd definitely go Certified-pre owned. You get a good deal. Also, 69,000 is a lot of miles... I would find a different X.
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what's is making me lean toward this deal is that the dealer is offering retail price for my car with is about 6K more than anyone else is.
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Ya but he is screwing you on the price of the X5. I mean he probably bought that car for 29000. I mean there is NO warranty. BMW's are quality cars. But if something breaks it is going to cost a ton!.
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so you think if I bring him down 3K I'll be ok?
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Old 01-12-2005, 04:26 PM
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so you think if I bring him down 3K I'll be ok?
No i do not, Walk. That car is not going any ware for a while. Go an look at other dealers and on auto trader. You are about to spend 35,000 on a car that will be at a 100,000 thousand miles in 2 years. Not to mention it is a 2001. That is the price of a band new 3 series. This much money is to much to spend on something you are questioning. If it was the right car there would be no question at all. I think you will be un-happy with your purchase. This dealer needs a good
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Just some reference. I had sold my fully loaded 2001 X5 4.4 with 42k miles for 31.5k back in 10/04. I think you are paying a lot for the X5. You can check the price for that 69k miles X5 at www.galves.com

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Old 01-13-2005, 09:01 AM
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so basically stay away, the only reason I was considering it was, the dealer was giving me retail for my car and it's hard to find that type of opportunity
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Nothing really wrong with my car, just the weather out here in the mid west is getting pretty slick so I thought I would opt for something with AWD and I really don't like the X3, but the deal sounds sweet because the guy is willing to pay 22625 (retail) and I buy his car for 35K. So I should only be out something like 10K, it is not CPO or anything and he's throwing in a 3 year warrenty program in for free.
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so basically stay away, the only reason I was considering it was, the dealer was giving me retail for my car and it's hard to find that type of opportunity
Yes, that is one of there tricks. They give you full MSRP even thou your car is not worth that. That will make you fee like your are getting a good deal but really they are screwing you over. Besides no dealer can give you a significant discount on a used car. Even if you know the owners. The profit margin is not nearly as big as a new car. Like I said I have friends who own half the car dealer ships in Atlanta. I think we have said enough. Sorry but I am just getting a little irritated that you keep pressing for this car. You have the opinion of people on this board and it is not going to change. Good luck in finding an X5, you will love the car.
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well I guess I'll shop around then...thx for the advice....
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well I guess I'll shop around then...thx for the advice....
well the vehicle that I was talking about is sold, he's getting another, a 2000 with 66K miles, you still think I should stay away?
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Old 01-14-2005, 11:11 AM
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I don't know. If it is all you can afford than that is ok. If you can get a 01,02 with a warranty. It's your call.
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Old 01-14-2005, 11:15 AM
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it's not that I can't afford, I'm looking to do business with this dealer, because he'll give me retail and the prices so far out there for other x5's have been retail or a little less, I told him to get me an 02 with less than 50K and I don't mind paying the difference. It's just the matter of him coming up with one. There a plently out there within the price he quoted with less miles and some even newer, hell I talked to a bmw dealer in St. Louis who's got a 03 4.4 for 38900, and I said let's do retail to retail, the vehicle is worth 41900, but of course they refuse. Especially being here in Topeka KS, in the middle of no where, opportunities are limited, hell I wish I was back home on the east coast....
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Old 01-21-2005, 12:45 PM
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I know your sick of me by now, but here is something that the guy called me with, a 2001 X5 3.0 (not sure if I want a 3.0) with 40K on it for 34K and change and trade my car for 21K and change and walk away paying 13K. This vehicle is supposed to have all options an X5 can get except for Navi. Let me know what you think.....
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Old 01-25-2005, 10:43 AM
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anyone? Or should I just look for a 4.4?
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Old 01-25-2005, 11:19 AM
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That's too much in my opinion for a 2001 with a 3.0. Is the dealer a BMW dealer? If he is, you want to get a car under 50K miles and have them certify it for the 100K warranty/5 years from in service date, $50 deductible. That will give you more value. I would look at 2002 X5s and up with 40K miles or less, CPO. From there you can look up to 4.4s and '03/'04 X5s as you shop around. NAV is also a big value in the resale of the car.
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Old 01-25-2005, 12:07 PM
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it's not a bmw dealer, it's a dealer in town here that deals with high end vehicles, he's giving me retail for my car. The 3.0 supposedly has a sports package too, I have talked to BMW dealers and they are offering 15-17 for my car and I know or feel it's worth more than that.
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Old 01-25-2005, 12:18 PM
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You and only you can make that deal.. I think if you used Kelly or NADA to find out what your BMW worth and what the X5 is worth and you fell good about the deal then do it.. Look at low book and each car. I bought a 00 X5 with 17K miles for $36K 2 years ago and sold my old X5 3.0 on my own and only lost $2K but got V8 navigation and alot more than the 3.0. I would never pay that much for a high mileage BMW.. When you look for resell down the road a BMW with 100K miles are hard to sell without a warranty. Pay more or the same for a low mileage X5. You can take a drive and buy one off auto trader like I did I went to Ca over 500 miles to get my X5 and was happy the deal work out great. Just my 2 cents worth...
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I checked NADA and KBB, first off I don't know which one to trust as a reliable source, the guy I'm dealing with is using NADA, as for price difference, both retail with all options, there is about a 10K diffence, so I'm thinking if walk away paying 10K it will be ok, but I don't know much about reliability of x5's, he is going to throw in some 3yr/75 warranty, don't know the details as of yet.
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How many miles on your current BMW? is you BMW nice can you sell on your own? have you look in auto trader for prices on what people are asking for on both BMW's? The books are only good as paper they are printed on or seen on a monitor. I would think what you see on auto trader is a better idea on what cars are going for today... I did my sell over the phone using auto trader...
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Sell the 3 yourself

I also was stressed about what every dealer offered me for my 01 740i Sport with 92K on it. Edmuds.com said $28K trade-in, dealers offered me 15-18K, so I sold it myself for $25K to a friend that was very happy with the deal. That let me step up to the 4.4 I wanted and the year and equipment level I was looking for.
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How many miles on your current BMW? is you BMW nice can you sell on your own? have you look in auto trader for prices on what people are asking for on both BMW's? The books are only good as paper they are printed on or seen on a monitor. I would think what you see on auto trader is a better idea on what cars are going for today... I did my sell over the phone using auto trader...
I have around 59700 miles on it, I think it's nice, the guy who's trying to sell me a 2000 4.4 or a 2001 3.0 wants it for himself before he puts it on the lot. The prices on autotrader are all over the place, there are cars with 65K miles selling for 26K, and cars with 35K miles, are selling for 24K, so it's a little cofusing. I'm looking to get low 20's, I'll be happy with 22 or 23K, plus I have some mod's that greatly enhance the appearance of the car. So it looks like the dealer buys for 15-18K and sells for 20-27K, that's just BS
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so what's your advice, pretaining to years, I'm hoping to get a 2002 4.4 with around 40K miles on it for around 35K or 38K. There are people selling them for those prices on autotrader, but this dude can't find a vehicle for me, I'm starting to think he's full of ****e............
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