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Old 01-18-2005, 10:03 AM
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Come on people...this photo was obviously taken by BMW to stress out the nicer design of the E90.

I mean look....
The E36 and E46 have orange indicators, and standard 15 and 16' alloys, compared with the E90 which has clear indicators and huge (18') wheels.

Put a 330i with the performance package next to the E90, and we will see who is the star of the block.

Even with clear sides only, and a pair of decent alloys, I bet you, the E46 will be the star.

The E90 looks bigger, much bigger, more angry, less calm and classy.

Is that what BMW wanted????

to have angry and tacky cars???????//

I will give you another explanation of tacky....
The full clear rear lights for the new 5 series.....
or the Lexus style rear lights of the E46 compact....
or the WHOLE design of the 7 series...............
I mean....where is the class in that????

CHRIS BANGLE SHOULD BE TAKEN AWAY from the design deptment. Now he is the Head, if i am not mistaken..


ALL his designs have the T-A-C-K-Y word written all over them.
Even the new X3.........Come on........it looks like a bloody Land Rover with a fancy bodykit and some new Aftermarket Xenon lights.

TACKY.
Where is the class????????????
Even the E30 looks classy in that photo. A 20 year old car.

Also, the Z4......look at it. All I see is some rich village people driving it....no class, just want to buy a B-M-W.
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:08 AM
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Come on people...this photo was obviously taken by BMW to stress out the nicer design of the E90.

I mean look....
No no, tell us what you REALLY think . I agree though that this photo is staged to make the E90 look like the star of the show. Of course, that's the job of the press department. I'd expect nothing less.

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Old 01-18-2005, 10:27 AM
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Agreed. However, in all fairness, I believe they all depict the start of production models too. Both the E46 and E36 are first year, for sure. I'm not sure of the Eurpopean bumper configs of the e21 and e30. Also, notice the plates? They are all Munich registered. Clear markers/blinkers were not standard on euro cars back then. Other than the wheels, this is a very fair comparo.
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:34 AM
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E21->E30->E36->E46 is clearly an evolution. The E90, in comparison is a 'WTF' in this lineup, as bluetree211 so succinctly put it.
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:35 AM
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:39 AM
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E21-> evolution E30-> major redesign E36-> evolution E46-> major redesign E90
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:50 AM
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2 things jump out at me: 1) the E90 is wider
What do you know? It's the new WIDE TRACK BMW. Wider is better...
They even mimicked the grille...

But as strange as it may sound, it's the rear I hate the most, with those fat, ill-defined taillamps. The front at least has some character, but the back is just big and bland.


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Old 01-18-2005, 11:23 AM
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The biggest cause of that effect in the photo is because that E90 is the only one that has a Sport Package
That's the standard front end. There does not appear to be any change for different models, according to the road tests of the 330i and 320d in Autocar today. (They liked it, except the packaging, which they thought was poor.) No alternatives have been seen yet, save the gaffer-taped lash-up on the various coupe mules seen thrashing around the 'Ring.
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Old 01-18-2005, 11:27 AM
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Folks,

On another perspective, it's nice to see 5 generations present in one picture. Brings tears to my eyes seeing this collection. Indeed, each generation brings that certain "ooh , ahh , and ewe ."

As for the proverbial debate on which model is better which, I'll have to wait until I see the E90 in person. Pictures have their limitations. Like all previous generations, I'm sure there will be a deluge of comments on the E90, once it's available around the world.


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Old 01-18-2005, 11:28 AM
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I think the e90 will grow on me. It will never be in my garage with that stupid iDrive though.

I dont know one single person that has the iDrive and likes it.
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Old 01-18-2005, 11:46 AM
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That's the standard front end. There does not appear to be any change for different models, according to the road tests of the 330i and 320d in Autocar today. (They liked it, except the packaging, which they thought was poor.) No alternatives have been seen yet, save the gaffer-taped lash-up on the various coupe mules seen thrashing around the 'Ring.
... I was refering to the 18" wheels and lower suspension of that E90. That's the Sport Package configuration so far announced for the E90. I have not read anything of the Sport Package having a different front end from non-Sport E90's...
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Old 01-18-2005, 11:54 AM
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I think the new 3 looks awesome in that pic. Much more of a wedge for a nose, instead of the relatively blunt, almost square nose of the e46. From the photo, the e90 looks so much more squat and planted.

I know I'm probably going to buy one.

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Old 01-18-2005, 11:56 AM
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Put a 330i with the performance package next to the E90
Will never happen, the ZHP will only ever see the rear of the E90
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Old 01-18-2005, 11:58 AM
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... I was refering to the 18" wheels and lower suspension of that E90. That's the Sport Package configuration so far announced for the E90. I have not read anything of the Sport Package having a different front end from non-Sport E90's...
FYI- The '99-'00 E46s did not have a different front fascia for SP cars versus non-SP cars. And the '01+ 325s still don't. Nor do any of the coupes. It's only the '01+ 330i sedans that change front fascia with the SP.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:44 PM
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E21->E30->E36->E46 is clearly an evolution. The E90, in comparison is a 'WTF' in this lineup, as bluetree211 so succinctly put it.

I completely disagree. Look closely at the E90, and you can see that it is nothing *but* an evolution of the E46, and not a particularly far-flung one. The swage line on the side is an interpretation of the same element on the E46. The greenhouse is nearly identical. The proportions are exactly the same, fore and aft, and similar laterally (though the E90 is obviously wider). The headlight forms are different, but only in detail--the underlying concept is the same, and if you put an 04 E46 coupe next to the E90 the evolution there would be obvious, too.

There is, IMHO, a much, much bigger break stylistically between the E30 and the E36 than there is between the E90 and the E46 (or even the E90 and the E36, for that matter).
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The E90's front is what bugs me the most. It appears to be in a perpetual state of anger, bordering on rage.
I don't like the long Audi-esque "tongue". It is hidden well on the darkest colors but on the
lighter colors it doesn't look right.



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If the photo looks distorted, its because it's cropped, scaled, and heavily compressed, the original is like 6 MB.

It is an official BMW picture, I hope this doesn't come off as arrogant, but I would prefer not to give any information about where I got the picture.
It appears to be on the roof of the parking garage next to the BMW tower in Munich. That is the old Olympic stadium in the background.

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I don't like the long Audi-esque "tongue". It is hidden well on the darkest colors but on the
lighter colors it doesn't look right.
With US license plates in the front, that "mouth" will look like it has some front teeth, ala
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There is, IMHO, a much, much bigger break stylistically between the E30 and the E36 than there is between the E90 and the E46 (or even the E90 and the E36, for that matter).
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I think the e90 will grow on me. It will never be in my garage with that stupid iDrive though.

I dont know one single person that has the iDrive and likes it.
I dont get this argument.. no offense but you have to be a moron not to get I drive. Move and press down... its that simple..

My dad is 53 years old, and he cannot even turn on a computer but he CAN use idrive.
Maybe you should give it a chance before you run crying to your mommy...
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I'd have to agree with JST (and Artslinger) on this one. The biggest break stylistically between all the 3-series generations occured between the e30 and e36. The next biggest one would be the e46 to e90. However, put back amber corners on the e90 and the redesign will look much more evolutionary (exterior wise only) of the e46 (even closer if it was the facelifted one).
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I completely disagree. Look closely at the E90, and you can see that it is nothing *but* an evolution of the E46, and not a particularly far-flung one. The swage line on the side is an interpretation of the same element on the E46. The greenhouse is nearly identical. The proportions are exactly the same, fore and aft, and similar laterally (though the E90 is obviously wider). The headlight forms are different, but only in detail--the underlying concept is the same, and if you put an 04 E46 coupe next to the E90 the evolution there would be obvious, too.

There is, IMHO, a much, much bigger break stylistically between the E30 and the E36 than there is between the E90 and the E46 (or even the E90 and the E36, for that matter).[/QUOTE]
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I dont get this argument.. no offense but you have to be a moron not to get I drive. Move and press down... its that simple..

My dad is 53 years old, and he cannot even turn on a computer but he CAN use idrive.
Maybe you should give it a chance before you run crying to your mommy...
Um, your post speaks volumes...

And it's not a matter of any of us "figuring out" i-Drive. It's much more a matter of wanting it. It's simply not a better way of doing what it sets out to do.
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Um, your post speaks volumes...

And it's not a matter of any of us "figuring out" i-Drive. It's much more a matter of wanting it. It's simply not a better way of doing what it sets out to do.
how much time have you spent using iDrive?
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how much time have you spent using iDrive?
Do you need to spend time to 'want' anything ?
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