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Things you might not know about your ZF 6-speed auto..

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#1 ·
This only relates to those with a 2004 model onwards X5 fitted with the 6-speed Auto transmission, but you might find it interesting.

There are two types of 6-speed box, one is a low torque version and the other (i.e. for the 4.8is and perhaps 3.0d) is a high torque version.

The gearbox has 13 separate functions, but I'll only go into more detail on the Adaptive Transmission Control. the other functions are Overlap control, Starter inhibitor, Parking lock, Warming-up program, Engine intervention, Downshift inhibitor, Reverse gear inhibitor, Selector lever lock (shiftlock), Standstill decoupling, Interlock, Emergency program, Rock free from snow function.

The Adaptive transmission control is interesting though. As with earlier transmissions the 6-speed box provides the choice between comfort ('D') and sport ('DS') programs.

However, did you know that there are two separate maps for each program? These maps are compiled based on driver inputs (throttle, yaw rate, brake & deceleration etc) but in both programs the adaptive transmission changes from a basic economy map to a more performance oriented map.

In selector lever position 'D' there is an XE map (extreme economy) and an E map (economy). The EGS control unit normally selects the XE map, but in case of particular demands (e.g. load requirements) it will change to the more performance oriented E map. If the input signals change to a more gentle driving style then the adaptive controls will change back to a more economical XE map.

In the Sport program 'DS' with the selector lever in position M/S there is the basic S map (sport) and the performance oriented XS map (extreme sport). If an extremely dynamic driving style is called for, the system will change from the S map to the XS map.

The adaptive systems responds to driving uphill (or towing a trailer), driving downhill, braking/deceleration and winter driving (i.e. info from the DSC). Otherwise the adaptive systems respond to the type of driver using the car and assesses the rate of throttle movement, cornering approach (i.e. wheel speed sensors, yaw rate, road speed), constant-speed travel values and how aggressively you are decelerating.

The adaptation process is restarted each time the car pulls away from a standstill. Adaptation works by comparing the inputs with a set of threshold values that have been constructed from the moment your car was driven following it's last reset (usually at the factory).

Well, now you know. :thumbup:
 
#5 ·
For those of you experiencing the heavy snows at the moment, the following might be of interest..

"Rock free from snow function

To rock the vehicle free from snow, it is possible to shift between selector lever positions D and R without the selector lever lock (effective in N). With the engine running, the gearshift must be completed within 0.5 seconds."

I haven't tried it myself but it might prove useful.
 
#8 ·
Steved said:
No Getrag are their competitors. ZF are an independent 9 billion Euro German company. ZF Group website
I see. I thought they used Getrag in the X5. They must use it for the smaller engines like in the 325?

The ZF is a stouter unit isnt it?

My wifes 3.0 X5 shift really nicely. Good use of power in such a heavy vehicle from an otherwise dog of a motor.
 
#9 ·
Isn't it true that in the 4.6is/4.8is the XE/E map is equal to the S/XS map in the 4.4/3.0. I was told by one of the techs at my dealership that the S mode on my 4.6is is an even more agressive version than the S mode on a 4.4 and the standard mode on the 4.6 is equal to the S mode on 4.4.
 
#10 ·
Ronin009 said:
Isn't it true that in the 4.6is/4.8is the XE/E map is equal to the S/XS map in the 4.4/3.0. I was told by one of the techs at my dealership that the S mode on my 4.6is is an even more agressive version than the S mode on a 4.4 and the standard mode on the 4.6 is equal to the S mode on 4.4.
I think that's pretty close to the truth. The gearbox programs on both 4.6is and 4.8is are more dynamic than in the 4.4i Sport but I think it's even more noticeable in the 4.6is due to it's more 'peaky' engine characteristics.

Btw, apart from it being a different gearbox between the 4.6is and 4.8is, the 4.8is has overall shorter gearing which adds to the impression of much greater torque.
 
#12 ·
Alex Baumann said:
Steve, the one in the 4.8i (and the 3.0d) is an GA6HP26Z is manufactured by ZF, but the other one that comes in the 3.0 Liter (not diesel) is from GM (A5S390R).
There's also a GA6HP19Z (which is the low torque version) but the same gearbox design is available for E53, E60, E61, E64, E87 and E90 models so maybe it fits one of these. :thumbup:
 
#13 ·
Steved said:
There's also a GA6HP19Z (which is the low torque version) but the same gearbox design is available for E53, E60, E61, E64, E87 and E90 models so maybe it fits one of these. :thumbup:
Ah, OK.

The ETK is a sh!ty software, I'm tellin ya. The new one (java based) should be out soon, or is already out.
 
#15 ·
04E46 said:
Java based?

Java is a middleware/VM isnt it. Please expand.
Yup, Java VM. According to an info on the latest ETK, the current 'Group ETK 1.1' will be replaced by an advanced Java based version.

If you have the electronic parts catalog Version 1.1, start it, click on Services --> CD Info.
 
#17 ·
Alex Baumann said:
Yup, Java VM. According to an info on the latest ETK, the current 'Group ETK 1.1' will be replaced by an advanced Java based version.

If you have the electronic parts catalog Version 1.1, start it, click on Services --> CD Info.
Java? And its going to be faster :)

That doesnt make any sense. I can see them developing it in Java but it all compiles the same before you write the eprom. We have made a few apps that work with the Ibus and was just written with assembly.

I would be interested in seeing what they mean.
 
#18 ·
04E46 said:
Java? And its going to be faster :)

That doesnt make any sense. I can see them developing it in Java but it all compiles the same before you write the eprom. We have made a few apps that work with the Ibus and was just written with assembly.

I would be interested in seeing what they mean.
Alex is talking about the ETK. This is the comprehensive BMW/Mini parts database that the dealers have (the stuff that used to be on microfiche).
 
#25 ·
The adaptation process is restarted each time the car pulls away from a standstill. Adaptation works by comparing the inputs with a set of threshold values that have been constructed from the moment your car was driven following it's last reset (usually at the factory).

Well, now you know. :thumbup:
I am interested in the reset function. I a looking a purchasing a used Z4 (hopefully soon). I was wondering how much trouble it would be to reset these values when I purchased the car. This would allow the car to adapt to me from a baseline.

If I do not have it reset, how long for it to adapt to a new driver? :dunno: