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Old 11-29-2016, 05:19 AM
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Slippery when wet! No kidding.

Two months of being Bimmer enthusiasts (m46, 2004 325i sedan, AT) and first day of rain here in Gerogia (after a record breaking 42 days with no rain). Spinning on a normally safe corner was a surprise to me. I guess I have driven front wheel drives for too long and I was probably leaning too heavy on the gas. LOL. Do Bimmers have "issues" in the wet? My guess is my tires need replacement. Should I be on the look for other issues? BTW, the DSC light came on temporarily, of course, the spinning was already going.
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Old 11-29-2016, 05:28 AM
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Spinning tires or spinning the car? Spinning a tire sounds like DSC is not functioning properly. It should simulate the function of a locking differential.
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Old 11-29-2016, 07:29 AM
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Two months of being Bimmer enthusiasts (m46, 2004 325i sedan, AT) and first day of rain here in Gerogia (after a record breaking 42 days with no rain). Spinning on a normally safe corner was a surprise to me. I guess I have driven front wheel drives for too long and I was probably leaning too heavy on the gas. LOL. Do Bimmers have "issues" in the wet? My guess is my tires need replacement. Should I be on the look for other issues? BTW, the DSC light came on temporarily, of course, the spinning was already going.
Not normally
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Old 11-29-2016, 09:13 AM
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After 42 days without rain the roads are going to be full of oil. Over driving the conditions in any car will be problematic. Being heavy on the accelerator with older tires adds to the problem.

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Old 11-29-2016, 09:40 AM
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Spinning tires or spinning the car? Spinning a tire sounds like DSC is not functioning properly. It should simulate the function of a locking differential.
I think it did a little of both, but more of drifting than spinning the tires. It is hard to tell. I wish I could had it recorded on video but I was not planning for it and I was in a hurry to beat Atlanta traffic.
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Old 11-29-2016, 09:42 AM
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Old 11-29-2016, 09:43 AM
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Take a good look at your rear tires, the whole tire, not just the outside tread. Get down on the ground and use a flashlight. The inside part of these tires wear faster than the outside part.
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Old 11-29-2016, 09:44 AM
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After 42 days without rain the roads are going to be full of oil. Over driving the conditions in any car will be problematic. Being heavy on the accelerator with older tires adds to the problem.

Tim
Ha! Never thought of the oil issue.
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Old 11-30-2016, 07:20 PM
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Spinning tires or spinning the car? Spinning a tire sounds like DSC is not functioning properly. It should simulate the function of a locking differential.
DSC must be working. I tried the same thing today and I could tell the DSC was enacted. It appears that once I lost a little of traction the spinning motion began and no matter what the DSC did the car spinned.
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That's just the fun of driving a rear drive car! With enough power (and no traction control) you can swing the back end all over the road in dry conditions too. It's lots of fun.

Your situation though is definitely tire related.
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Old 12-01-2016, 01:17 PM
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Your situation though is definitely tire related.
How could it be otherwise?
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Old 12-01-2016, 01:37 PM
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How could it be otherwise?
As Tim said above, the excess oil on the roads (due to first rain in 42 days) likely contributed. But if there's any question that the tires' need to be replaced, then my answer is always, Yes, they need to be replaced.
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Old 12-01-2016, 01:43 PM
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As Tim said above, the excess oil on the roads (due to first rain in 42 days) likely contributed. But if there's any question that the tires' need to be replaced, then my answer is always, Yes, they need to be replaced.
I was just pointing out that any spinning or loss of traction always involves the tires. That is literally where the rubber meets the road.
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Old 12-01-2016, 08:22 PM
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I was just pointing out that any spinning or loss of traction always involves the tires. That is literally where the rubber meets the road.
Just for completeness, the microscopic layer of oil or whatever that causes the wheels to spin means that the rubber is actually not meeting the road.
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Old 12-02-2016, 04:32 AM
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Since these are steel belted tires, when you run out of rubber, you can just use the steel belts.

Right?

What could possibly go wrong?
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Old 12-02-2016, 04:42 AM
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Since these are steel belted tires, when you run out of rubber, you can just use the steel belts.

Right?

What could possibly go wrong?
I ran a set of Michelin XWX to the steel belts on my circumnavigation of the USA in my Porsche, not wanting to stop or replace tires in Chicago-land.
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Old 12-02-2016, 05:45 AM
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Just for completeness, the microscopic layer of oil or whatever that causes the wheels to spin means that the rubber is actually not meeting the road.
Well, not ALL of it anyway.
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Old 12-12-2016, 08:52 AM
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Shopping for tires today. Any recommendations? I got base wheels so the size recommended is 205/55-16. Should I go a little wider without an issue? Something like 215 or 225?
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Shopping for tires today. Any recommendations? I got base wheels so the size recommended is 205/55-16. Should I go a little wider without an issue? Something like 215 or 225?
Did you talk to Rudy@TireRack.com?
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