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The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 02-05-2005, 11:46 AM
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Angel eyes on the E46.

Is it my imagination, or does the E46 have angel eyes? I noticed on my headlights today, that the light forms rings, just like the angel eyes.
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:51 AM
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Is it my imagination, or does the E46 have angel eyes? I noticed on my headlights today, that the light forms rings, just like the angel eyes.
It's your imagination.
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Old 02-05-2005, 12:00 PM
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I dont think so Plaz. I saw them clearly. they are not eactly like the ones on the E39, but they sure form a "ring" effect.
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I dont think so Plaz. I saw them clearly. they are not eactly like the ones on the E39, but they sure form a "ring" effect.

I assure you, you're just seeing the pattern of how the regular headlights reflect around the rear headlight reflector piece..
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Old 02-05-2005, 12:05 PM
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I dont think so Plaz. I saw them clearly. they are not eactly like the ones on the E39, but they sure form a "ring" effect.
No "angel eyes" on the E46. Maybe there's a reflection thing going on that looks somewhat similar, but if there were "angel eyes" on the E46, there wouldn't be an army of aftermarket bling peddlers selling kits.
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Old 02-05-2005, 12:36 PM
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I assure you, you're just seeing the pattern of how the regular headlights reflect around the rear headlight reflector piece..
Yeap. thats it. It looks like that. Isnt it like the angel eyes pattern? Maybe they go the idea from these headlights...
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How much do aftermarket angel eyes cost for a 330 (convertible), and does that affect the xenon lights at all?
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Definetly dont have them, but I know what you are talking about. The ridges around the halogen headlights if you look at a certain angle kind of look like angel eyes.

Anyway you can get these they were $100 and work great wiring harness and everything.
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Should I be buying a new car with xenon headlights if I'm going to get aftermarket angel lights?
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Old 02-06-2005, 10:32 AM
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Should I be buying a new car with xenon headlights if I'm going to get aftermarket angel lights?

Dude, really. Put safety and function first (HIDs), bling second (angel eyes).

That being said, I don't think it makes a difference.
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Should I be buying a new car with xenon headlights if I'm going to get aftermarket angel lights?

Why wouldnt you? My car has xenons look at the pics
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Heh, I don't really get that because I don't have HIDs, xenons, or angel eyes on my current car - so I don't realy know the definition of any of those other than the xenons I've seen look hot.

Why wouldn't I? Because I don't know what all the "angel eyes" include, and I don't want to duplicate buying xenons.

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Definetly dont have them, but I know what you are talking about. The ridges around the halogen headlights if you look at a certain angle kind of look like angel eyes.

Anyway you can get these they were $100 and work great wiring harness and everything.
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Where did you get these from?
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Where did you get these from?

http://www.leistungmotorwerkes.com/

As for the other poster, xenons are headlights, instead of a halogen filled bulb that burns, its a xenon filled bulb that gets excited (cant thing of a better word) and lights up. You need a special ignitor/ballast for them to work, but they take less power then a halogen bulb, 35w vs 55w, and they are alot brighter in lumens then a halogen bulb closer to 3000 lumens when halogens are around 1800-2000.

Angel eyes are just the lighted rings that you see in the pictures I posted. They have nothing to do with either halogens or xenons. You put them on aftermarket and wire them to turn on when the car is on (or a switch whatever your preference is).

The first pic is what a halogen bulb looks like lit
the second pic is what halogens look like off
The third pic has xenons (they are in a projector, easiest way to tell the xenon cars from the non xenon cars (till the new facelifted coupes which I believe all have projectors whether they have xenons or not)
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Thanks for the superior description.
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Angel eyes are just the lighted rings that you see in the pictures I posted. They have nothing to do with either halogens or xenons. You put them on aftermarket and wire them to turn on when the car is on (or a switch whatever your preference is).
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This is something I've wondered about. Are the angel eyes always on, like DRL's? Or, do you set them to go on with your Parking lights, headlights, separate switch, etc? I'm not a very good DIY guy but I think angel eyes that were always on would look great. How difficult are these to install? Thanks.
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This is something I've wondered about. Are the angel eyes always on, like DRL's? Or, do you set them to go on with your Parking lights, headlights, separate switch, etc? I'm not a very good DIY guy but I think angel eyes that were always on would look great. How difficult are these to install? Thanks.

Basically you can set them up anyway you want. Mine are set up like DRL's and are always on. I tapped the ECU which is very simple to do. Mine light up when the car comes on, and stay on for 10 seconds after the car goes off.

You can make a switch for the turn on if you want, or you can tap your fog lights or whatever else you want. I dont suggest tapping the other sources though. The best is the ECU its the cleanest, and you can always put a switch in between if you want to turn them on and off.
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Basically you can set them up anyway you want. Mine are set up like DRL's and are always on. I tapped the ECU which is very simple to do. Mine light up when the car comes on, and stay on for 10 seconds after the car goes off.

You can make a switch for the turn on if you want, or you can tap your fog lights or whatever else you want. I dont suggest tapping the other sources though. The best is the ECU its the cleanest, and you can always put a switch in between if you want to turn them on and off.
Great. Do you happen to have a write-up or know of one related to doing this install?

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I did a search for you at e46fanatics. Its been covered extensively over there. I just recently bought a set from Jim Powell the man who originally started to mass produce these a few years back. Check it out.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/search.php?searchid=999297

www.apexcone.com for his number.

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