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E46 (1999 - 2006)
The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 02-07-2005, 08:39 AM
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2005 ZHPs?

Does anyone have any idea how many ZHPs were produced for MY 2005, and what percentage of the 330is in 2005 are ZHPs?

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Old 02-07-2005, 09:05 AM
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Old 02-07-2005, 09:55 AM
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Does anyone have any idea how many ZHPs were produced for MY 2005, and what percentage of the 330is in 2005 are ZHPs?

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I got the impression from my dealer that there were more 330i's with ZHP produced than 330i's with the regular Sport Package produced this year. Take that for what its worth, but I do know that E46 330i ZHP's are beginning to dwindle so if you're looking for one, start lining it up now or you will be very limited on colors/options etc. I believe that the last e46 330i's are being produced in February and then production will be stopping.
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Old 02-07-2005, 11:11 AM
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No.. I already got mine a couple weeks back. It's just that it seems like all the 3 series that I see around are 325 or regular 330s. Don't seem to see too many ZHPs
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Old 02-07-2005, 01:58 PM
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Old 02-07-2005, 02:29 PM
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I also heard that there were more personally ordered ZHP's in 2005 than ZSP's. I know I got one of the first, with a Serptember 4th 2004 start of production date, which, ironically, is my own birth date. In any case, haven't they stopped production of E46's already? Or are they building the coupes and convertables for the full model year.

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Old 02-07-2005, 02:34 PM
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About half of the 330s we order for open stock are ZHPs.
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Old 02-07-2005, 03:53 PM
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Old 02-07-2005, 06:25 PM
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Well, based on this thread so far, at least 6.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. It's been that kind of day.)
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Old 02-07-2005, 07:06 PM
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Well at least in the US there have to be less than any other country. Days go by and i dont see one on the road besides mine. Just imagine how rare they are, i went to Vegas for a week and i saw only 2 thats it. In Vegas i see everything from Rolls Royce Phantoms to Lamborghinis, Ferraris but just 2 330ZHP sedans.
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Old 02-07-2005, 07:29 PM
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Well at least in the US there have to be less than any other country. Days go by and i dont see one on the road besides mine. Just imagine how rare they are, i went to Vegas for a week and i saw only 2 thats it. In Vegas i see everything from Rolls Royce Phantoms to Lamborghinis, Ferraris but just 2 330ZHP sedans.
Maybe 1 of the 2 was mine.
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:49 PM
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Maybe 1 of the 2 was mine.
Probably i saw one imola red sedan and the other one was a silver gray or black too dark to tell.
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Old 02-07-2005, 09:25 PM
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I've seen 4 other ZHPs in NJ and I know 2 of them.

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Old 02-08-2005, 11:49 AM
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I've only seen two other ZHPs in New York. One was Imola Red and the other was Alpine White. I have one in Jet Black
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Old 02-08-2005, 12:01 PM
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Just imagine how rare they are, i went to Vegas for a week and i saw only 2 thats it. In Vegas i see everything from Rolls Royce Phantoms to Lamborghinis, Ferraris but just 2 330ZHP sedans.
Just imagine. All those suckers in the lambos and Ferraris WISH they had a badge (oh wait they dont even have a ZHP badge) as exclusive as yours.
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Old 02-08-2005, 02:09 PM
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I've only seen two other ZHPs in New York. One was Imola Red and the other was Alpine White. I have one in Jet Black

The dealer where I got my ZHP told me that they're selling them like hot cakes

I'm glad I got mine.
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Old 02-08-2005, 08:31 PM
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Doesn't take long for the haters to flame away at a ZHP thread, does it? Why can't you people just let the man enjoy his car?
I just try to ignore them. I'm not sure if its ignorance, jealousy or what but most ZHP-haters don't have one. I never see someone who owns one criticize them. The fact is that a 325, 330, and 330ZHP all have different HP, Torque, suspensions, etc. so I think its perfectly fine to say "my ZHP...." In fact, things like the 4000-5000 RPM "lag" problem seems to be specific to the ZHP so I just don't get why its a crime to refer to the car this way so that people know what you're talking about.

Its usually someone with a Sports Package car that got it just before they knew about the ZHP coming out....whatever, enjoy your ride and don't be a hater is what I say. If this were some $600 seat warmer package then I don't think it would be a big deal but a $4000 option that SIGNIFICANTLY changes the cars interior appearance, exterior appearance, and performance should be okay to mention when referring to your car.
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Old 02-08-2005, 08:36 PM
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Doesn't take long for the haters to flame away at a ZHP thread, does it? Why can't you people just let the man enjoy his car?
Well said.

The ZHP is a fantastic car. If you don't feel it's a good value, no problem. If you think BMW got some things wrong, fine. If you think you hate it, I think you want one... (After four years of owning a 325, and three test drives each of 330 sport and 330 zhp, I know I did!)
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Old 02-08-2005, 09:01 PM
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I just try to ignore them. I'm not sure if its ignorance, jealousy or what but most ZHP-haters don't have one. I never see someone who owns one criticize them. The fact is that a 325, 330, and 330ZHP all have different HP, Torque, suspensions, etc. so I think its perfectly fine to say "my ZHP...." In fact, things like the 4000-5000 RPM "lag" problem seems to be specific to the ZHP so I just don't get why its a crime to refer to the car this way so that people know what you're talking about.

Its usually someone with a Sports Package car that got it just before they knew about the ZHP coming out....whatever, enjoy your ride and don't be a hater is what I say. If this were some $600 seat warmer package then I don't think it would be a big deal but a $4000 option that SIGNIFICANTLY changes the cars interior appearance, exterior appearance, and performance should be okay to mention when referring to your car.
Well put my fellow ZHP Pilot, I dont think i could of said it better myself.

P.S. Why hate? I could perfectly understand from non-bmw owners(like FF) but to
get hated on by bmw owners? We have enough hating to deal with now we have to put
up with hating from our own make?
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Old 02-08-2005, 09:25 PM
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I've seen 4 other ZHPs in NJ and I know 2 of them.

DoubleV, what happened to the sig?
Man i tried to change pics but i think i forgot how to post them. Any ideas?
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Old 02-08-2005, 09:33 PM
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I've seen 4 other ZHPs in NJ and I know 2 of them.

DoubleV, what happened to the sig?
The sig is back!
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Old 02-08-2005, 09:54 PM
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Hey Double V,

My Silver grey, ZHP just passed through the Panama Canal and is on its way to me in San Diego. My ZHP has the same options and colors as yours - how do you like the silver cube with the black leather? I can't sleep at night - I want my new car !!- should have it by the end of the month !!
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Old 02-08-2005, 11:46 PM
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Hey Double V,

My Silver grey, ZHP just passed through the Panama Canal and is on its way to me in San Diego. My ZHP has the same options and colors as yours - how do you like the silver cube with the black leather? I can't sleep at night - I want my new car !!- should have it by the end of the month !!
All i can is that i love this car! I think the silvercube with black leather looks better than any other combo. Some may disagree and say the natural brown is better but i think the black leather looks perfect with the silvercube in a silver gray metallic. The other day i left the day open while i was vaccuming it and I just realized how well the exterior of the car blends in with the interior. Anyways i could only imagine the wait is a killer but it will be there soon.
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Old 02-09-2005, 12:41 AM
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I've only ever seen 2 other ZHPs since I've been on the lookout for them (a bit less then a year). I really would find it hard to belive that they are any significant portion of 3 series sales. 3 series are expenive enough...most buyers (I would think) are just trying to get their foot in the door (literally) - in buying the most affordable one. And many - if they were to spend their money - might opt for leather and some comfort features (sad i know...) - and I really don't think the ZHP is for everyone (ride is much firmer for one...and the cost factor)...but many BMW drivers are performance orientated (hurray for that!) - I think the much higher then average manual transmission rates certainly speak to that...so I guess its possible...still I haven't seen it on the road. I do see lots of folks doing a double take looking at my car. I think many do mistake it for an M3 (but maybe thats just because of the speeds I drive it! lol). And other BMW drivers certainly seem to show an interest...
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Old 02-09-2005, 02:29 AM
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I've only ever seen 2 other ZHPs since I've been on the lookout for them (a bit less then a year). I really would find it hard to belive that they are any significant portion of 3 series sales.
Of all the 3ers sold in the UK since 2001, over 1/3 are Sport models. Of the six-cylinder cars sold in that time, 80% are Sport models, with 330Ci sales nearing 100% in Sport trim. ("Sport" means it looks like a 330i/Ci PP.) It's available with every engine and every bodystyle, and has no mechanical upgrades, so it's not directly comparable to the PP. But this might give you some idea of how popular it would be as an option package available on every car in the range (I am willing to bet the US "sport pack" is equally as popular).
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