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The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 02-09-2005, 10:12 AM
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What brand of Paint does BMW use?

I just got back from main (s) dealer. Price quote was $800 for re-painting the 2 doors and the hood. That is very expensive here.
I got a quote from the TOYOTA paint shop, a real good trusted paint shop, for half the price.

Problem is, I am afraid that the paint they will use wont match exactly the Cosmos Black Metallic paint. I am thinking of guiding them to the brand/code BMW uses, in order to diminish any possibility of colour mismatch.

So, any info on the brand/code of the CosmosSwartz metallic????


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Old 02-09-2005, 10:44 AM
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Sorry, don't know your answer, but, paint matching is a whole art unto itself, IMO. Even when they use the same paint you're never sure how good it will look. Then you have the problem where the clearcoat look may not match panel to panel as far as shine level, etc. Good luck!
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Just found it. Glasurit paint.
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I just got back from main (s) dealer. Price quote was $800 for re-painting the 2 doors and the hood. That is very expensive here.
I got a quote from the TOYOTA paint shop, a real good trusted paint shop, for half the price.

Problem is, I am afraid that the paint they will use wont match exactly the Cosmos Black Metallic paint. I am thinking of guiding them to the brand/code BMW uses, in order to diminish any possibility of colour mismatch.

So, any info on the brand/code of the CosmosSwartz metallic????


I had a front bumper painted last year, and the body shop owner, who I've known for 20 years, said a pint cost about $60. I have the can at home and will post the code later.
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I had a front bumper painted last year, and the body shop owner, who I've known for 20 years, said a pint cost about $60. I have the can at home and will post the code later.
Thanks man, that would be really helpful.
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They will have to color match the paint regardless of whether they use OEM paint. The paint needs to be matched to account for fading and variations in color lots.
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Check this out:

www.glasuritnet.com/cgi-bin/ConlineFrm1.pl?MFR=BMW&LANG=E
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They will have to color match the paint regardless of whether they use OEM paint. The paint needs to be matched to account for fading and variations in color lots.
Not to mention the metal flake

AND they will have to blend into adjacent panels, did both quotes account for this?
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Not to mention the metal flake

AND they will have to blend into adjacent panels, did both quotes account for this?
Yes it did.
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My previous car suffered damage to the driver door and quarter panel aft of the door, requiring significant repair. The car was metallic silver and the paint was nearly 6 years old at the time. The body shop repainted the entire driver side of the car. I couldn't tell which was original and which was respray when they finished. I suspect it was mostly because the adjacent unpainted areas were pretty far apart (since the entire side was repainted).

It's probably a good idea to at least start with OEM paint.
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Thanks man, that would be really helpful.
The paint is fromm PPG, DBU9949, HAEMATIT MET, for OE****.

Like othersw have said, the skill of the mixer and the painter play a big part.
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Most of it is the guy doing the work. Fortunately black is an easy match.

Paint brand isn't as much of an issue down the road as is age pertaining to fading - that's the problem when you blend old and new, esp. with older, non-clearcoated cars. Funny watching how some cars over time start to show light and dark spots.

Concerning brand, it'll probably be the same base - clear the car presently has just to ensure a proper match - Glasurit. Clears have a tint you can notice between different brands, if they're into making life difficult they'll use something else.

Believe me, the same guy that shoots a Toyota today is probably the same guy that did your BMW yesterday.

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FWIW, Glasurit is VERY expensive paint. It is also very durable.

I had my MG painted by the local BMW painter using Glasurit "21 Line". The paint/primers/hardeners/consumables alone ran about $1000.
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FWIW, Glasurit is VERY expensive paint. It is also very durable.

I had my MG painted by the local BMW painter using Glasurit "21 Line". The paint/primers/hardeners/consumables alone ran about $1000.
Yeap, that's what I ve heard. I just visited another(yes another) paint shop that uses only Glasurit paint.
It was a big paintshop, but dirty. I am afraid that a dirty shop means alot of imperfections on my paint.

I am thinking of buying the Glasurit paint and clear coat, and then taking it to the TOYOTA bodyshop (which is tried and tested) to do the work. What worries me is that the shiny clear coat that my car has wont look as shiny with another paint brand, and over time, it will fade unevenly compared with the rest of the car.
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Yeap, that's what I ve heard. I just visited another(yes another) paint shop that uses only Glasurit paint.
It was a big paintshop, but dirty. I am afraid that a dirty shop means alot of imperfections on my paint. .
Not necessarily. Any reputable shop will use a megabuck downdraft booth. In some states it must be located in a seperate building. Look at some of their finished work or ask for references.

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I am thinking of buying the Glasurit paint and clear coat, and then taking it to the TOYOTA bodyshop (which is tried and tested) to do the work. What worries me is that the shiny clear coat that my car has wont look as shiny with another paint brand, and over time, it will fade unevenly compared with the rest of the car.
I would not recommend this. Painters generally familiarize theselves with one company's paint line and stay with it. Do you really want to be someone's guinea pig? Even if you found a painter willing to do it, Glasurit makes several different lines, and within each, there are different options. For example, their hardeners/activators vary by temperature - which one are you going to buy? You get the point.
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