DO NOT NOTIFY CHP/Local Authorities this year about Bimmerfest!

Just wanted to tell everyone before they decide its a good idea to let the CHP know that we're coming so somehow they won't stake out the 101 waiting for us. Thanks to whoever called the CHP ahead of time last year to let them know so they "wouldn't harass us BMW drivers," which resulted in them coming out in full force.They even changed the route of the air patrol to accomodate the LA caravan and escort us to SB. Way to go . If they find out about bimmerfest, they find out, but don't go tell them we're coming. All they will do is pad thier ticket count for the month.

And don't start with the you shouldn't be speeding part...

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84976

chpahoy is with the chp, i don't know if he would notify them of the event as he's coming to the fest but it's not like this is a big secret...

btw, how do you know someone called chp in years past?

Um, nobody has to say anything. When the first group of 5 bimmers clocking 120 comes up the 101 at 6AM, they'll be in full force the rest of the day. They have these things called radios these days.

yes CHPAHOY is a CHP officer, and its true if people drive like idiots then they are going to bring attention to the rest of us so thank all the people that drive like idiots (not trying offend anyone). If they do show up, its to help I remember that once a CHP officer stopped traffic so the BMW;s could proceed.

Originally Posted by Kaz

They have these things called radios these days.

Originally Posted by Kaz

Um, nobody has to say anything. When the first group of 5 bimmers clocking 120 comes up the 101 at 6AM, they'll be in full force the rest of the day. They have these things called radios these days.

Hmmm... Vat eez dis 'radio' you speak of?

yeah, someone posted last year that they had called the mayor and police chief to let them know so they wouldn't harass us at the fairgrounds.

the stupid CHP officer who pulled our group over last year told us they knew we were coming b/c they had gotten a tip weeks earlier that we were coming.

the stupid CHP pilot who supposedly identified (doesn't know the difference between a z3, M3, 740, 318, or bicycle) our group from the air told me during the trial that he had gotten word about our bimmerfest earlier in the week and had changed his patrol from normally southbound traffic to northbound traffic.

I was there when that one CHP officer stop traffic on the parade route, so yeah, there maybe 1 cool chp officer out there. Otherwise, most are DICKs just looking to pad their "activity" for the month.

Originally Posted by JT///M3

yeah, someone posted last year that they had called the mayor and police chief to let them know so they wouldn't harass us at the fairgrounds.

the stupid CHP officer who pulled our group over last year told us they knew we were coming b/c they had gotten a tip weeks earlier that we were coming.

the stupid CHP pilot who supposedly identified (doesn't know the difference between a z3, M3, 740, 318, or bicycle) our group from the air told me during the trial that he had gotten word about our bimmerfest earlier in the week and had changed his patrol from normally southbound traffic to northbound traffic.

I was there when that one CHP officer stop traffic on the parade route, so yeah, there maybe 1 cool chp officer out there. Otherwise, most are DICKs just looking to pad their "activity" for the month.

I bet they won't pull you over if you don't violate any laws

Originally Posted by JT///M3

And don't start with the you shouldn't be speeding part...

You shouldn't be speeding in the first place.

Originally Posted by JT///M3

I was there when that one CHP officer stop traffic on the parade route, so yeah, there maybe 1 cool chp officer out there. Otherwise, most are DICKs just looking to pad their "activity" for the month.

Interesting generalization.

Originally Posted by JT///M3

yeah, someone posted last year that they had called the mayor and police chief to let them know so they wouldn't harass us at the fairgrounds.

yeah, that Shafer dude...

Originally Posted by JT///M3

the stupid CHP pilot who supposedly identified (doesn't know the difference between a z3, M3, 740, 318, or bicycle...

I'm sure any CHP officer that has any amount of field exprience could give a rat's ass about differentiating the various BMW models. In fact, I'm sure most could give horrid recounts of how idiots driving BMWs too fast with little or no talent ended up spilling their guts or even better, dying on the various California roads and highways.

Cant wait till CHPAHOY see's this thread

Who in there right mind would not think that any law enforcement agency would not monitor the web for any events that are coming to/through their area in the future. Would it not be prudent to be proactive rather than reactive? Do you think that the organizer of this event doesn't notify the local PD that 600-700 BMW's are going to be in town or do you think they won't notice if we don't tell them. If you want to come out and drive your high performance vehicle with total disregard to those around you then you can expect the "MAN" to put a damper on your day. When I'm out working the road I give a lot of leeway and show people respect and I expect the same in return. But then we get people like you who want to bitch and moan because you got caught, and all of a sudden I'm a dick for doing my job. I'm the same dick that helps out your stranded wife/sister/grandmother, gives the homeless guy $5 to get a meal, responds to your crashes, I could go on and on but you have it in your mind that we're all DICKS. I just hope that I'm the next dick that stops you!

Originally Posted by chpahoy

Who in there right mind would not think that any law enforcement agency would not monitor the web for any events that are coming to/through their area in the future. Would it not be prudent to be proactive rather than reactive? Do you think that the organizer of this event doesn't notify the local PD that 600-700 BMW's are going to be in town or do you think they won't notice if we don't tell them. If you want to come out and drive your high performance vehicle with total disregard to those around you then you can expect the "MAN" to put a damper on your day. When I'm out working the road I give a lot of leeway and show people respect and I expect the same in return. But then we get people like you who want to bitch and moan because you got caught, and all of a sudden I'm a dick for doing my job. I'm the same dick that helps out your stranded wife/sister/grandmother, gives the homeless guy $5 to get a meal, responds to your crashes, I could go on and on but you have it in your mind that we're all DICKS. I just hope that I'm the next dick that stops you!

Hey, I have no problems with the CHP helping stranded motorists and stuff of that sort. Personally, thats what I think you guys should be doing. Why do you think we pay taxes for your better than avg salaries in the law enforcement field? Anyhow, I'm not here to start a war with the CHP. My gripe last year was that the CHP pretty much staked out the 101 for us BMW drivers coming up to bimmerfest. For the record, the CHP officer who pulled us over never got us on radar or even paced us speeding. For the record, the CHP pilot could not identify or tell the difference between any of the supposedly speeding BMWs. You can't identify an M3 vs. a 325 vs. 540 from the air. All they could do was pull over whoever they thought was speeding. How was/is that fair? Let me guess, they just cherry picked a coupel cars and gave us tickets for speeding, yet they could not identify any of us for speeding. Thats a load of crap and I DO have a problem with that.

Tell me honestly that you don't have a per se quota system and I will get off this board. I know you will say you don't, but basically, if you didn't give out one ticket this month, it would look like you did nothing. What about helping all those stranded motorist? You don't get points for doing that?

Again, I'm not here to fight with anyone, but i do feel strongly about the CHP and some of their unfair tactics. Thats my only gripe.

Originally Posted by JT///M3

Hey, I have no problems with the CHP helping stranded motorists and stuff of that sort. Personally, thats what I think you guys should be doing. Why do you think we pay taxes for your better than avg salaries in the law enforcement field? Anyhow, I'm not here to start a war with the CHP. My gripe last year was that the CHP pretty much staked out the 101 for us BMW drivers coming up to bimmerfest. For the record, the CHP officer who pulled us over never got us on radar or even paced us speeding. For the record, the CHP pilot could not identify or tell the difference between any of the supposedly speeding BMWs. You can't identify an M3 vs. a 325 vs. 540 from the air. All they could do was pull over whoever they thought was speeding. How was/is that fair? Let me guess, they just cherry picked a coupel cars and gave us tickets for speeding, yet they could not identify any of us for speeding. Thats a load of crap and I DO have a problem with that.

Tell me honestly that you don't have a per se quota system and I will get off this board. I know you will say you don't, but basically, if you didn't give out one ticket this month, it would look like you did nothing. What about helping all those stranded motorist? You don't get points for doing that?

Again, I'm not here to fight with anyone, but i do feel strongly about the CHP and some of their unfair tactics. Thats my only gripe.

That sort of thing happens all the time.

Like the motorcyclist who was timed from the air doing over 200MPH on a stock Honda RC51.

Cops tend to abuse their authority and if you take it to court the judges always side with the popo unless you have some sort of overwhelming evidence. There is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty when it comes to traffic tickets.

Originally Posted by JT///M3

Again, I'm not here to fight with anyone, but i do feel strongly about the CHP and some of their unfair tactics. Thats my only gripe.

All I have to say- that's a bad attitude to have. Perhaps you've had a bad experience with specific officers. The system is in place to deal with them, if you choose to use it (and use it wisely). This page has a lot of great information for fighting an unfair ticket (all California forms, etc). In general, I'm glad the CHP is there.

Believe it or not, people do break the law out there. Maybe its a moving violation, maybe its a mechanical violation. But you're telling me that because you think we have a quota and you don't think its fair, that I should not write any tickets. Please come back to reality. It is against the law for the CHP to have a quota system (check the vehicle code). How can you say that you're not out to pick a fight with anyone. You insult me by lumping me into the CHP's are dicks catagory. Part of going through life is to accept responsibility for your actions. It sounds like someone got caught doing something they shouldn't have been doing, and now the person that caught them is the bad guy. Its time we moved on.

Originally Posted by JT///M3

Again, I'm not here to fight with anyone, but i do feel strongly about the CHP and some of their unfair tactics. Thats my only gripe.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...0&postcount=17

I would generally agree with you about lower speed tickets like like 5 - 10 over in a 65 zone. But then I saw this thread, and your group was clocked at doing 90. From my experience (of being pulled over maybe 4 or 5 times), when the CHP pulls you over and give you your speed, it's probably lower than what it was anyways. Someone in your group specifically said you guys were going faster than 90 most of the time. So, chances are, your group was going faster than 90 anyways when you got pulled over. That's about 25 mph over the speed limit (which I assume is 65). I beleive in CA, 30 over is considered reckless driving. So please don't blame the CHP for unfairly targetting you. The CHP may have already given you a break by not citing you for 30 over the speed limit, slap on a reckless driving, and throw you guys in jail for a day.

I love it when people complain that they got tagged for speeding. Grow up and fess up! You know you were!

Last year was the first time I went to the fest. I thought it would be fun to "cruise" up there
with the caravan from the Valley. A few miles before the exit to the meeting place, a group
of about 10 or more BMWs came speeding by me, weaving in and out of traffic. After seeing
that, I figured that was a sure way of getting a ticket...it's pretty hard not to notice a group
of tricked out, speeding bimmers. (Can you say, "Hey Mr. CHP, look at me!"?) I then decided
not to join the caravan and drove at my own pace. Further up the road, in Oxnard, sure enough,
there are some bimmers pulled over by the CHP. Can you say "suckers"?

Originally Posted by SergioK

I love it when people complain that they got tagged for speeding. Grow up and fess up! You know you were!

Hey, didn't you get pull over for doing 100+ on the 405 once?

Originally Posted by The HACK

Hey, didn't you get pull over for doing 100+ on the 405 once?

Ouch!

I think I'd get thrown in jail for that sort of violation back here.

Originally Posted by The HACK

Hey, didn't you get pull over for doing 100+ on the 405 once?

That was when I was young and stupid!

Originally Posted by LmtdSlip

That sort of thing happens all the time.

Like the motorcyclist who was timed from the air doing over 200MPH on a stock Honda RC51.

Cops tend to abuse their authority and if you take it to court the judges always side with the popo unless you have some sort of overwhelming evidence. There is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty when it comes to traffic tickets.

Thank you! Finally, someone who is in touch with reality. We all know quotas of any sort are unfair and should not be legal (unless they are in place to benefit people who need it, ie, affirmative action). Its pretty obvious tho that CHP only come out at the end of the month in full force, but are pretty scarce during the early to middle parts. I have a route I commute on for the last 1.5 yrs and I have noticed this pattern month after month.

Anyhow, by no means did I call you out CPHAHOY and say you were a dick. I don't even know you. I just generalized that pretty all the CHP officers I've come to meet have been pretty much big dicks. And also from my experience, whenever I am driving the speed limit (+-15mph) I have noticed that the CHP are the ones that are really speeding. Whats up with that? You guys think its safe to race your bikes/crown vics at 90+mph? Who are you guys chasing?

BTW, what are the statistics on the safety of the 101? I mean, is it that dangerous that you guys must patrol it by air to prevent ppl from flying off the road? Or are you guys just generating revenue? I love to learn about this. Please, by all means, change my perspective about the CHP. Show me that you guys are here to help keep the freeways safe. Show me some numbers/statistics.

I want this to be a discussion so please don't flame. We can talk about this like adults. Just b/c I have an opposing pt of view, doesn't mean you can flame me b/c you don't agree.