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Old 02-23-2005, 12:10 PM
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Tool kit question

Hi, I know this subject has been brought up before, sorry to drag it up now, but I am missing two items from my E39 toolkit. I have took two pics showing the missing bits. Can anyone tell me what they are and if poss the part numbers to order.
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Old 02-23-2005, 12:20 PM
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The first one is the lug wrench. Just a metal tube with the right shape to fit over your lug bolts and a hole through the other end to put a screw driver through to turn it.

The second is the tire centering tool. Plastic end to go into the lug hole so you can hold and center the tire while you place another lug bolt on.

Don't know the part numbers but your dealer can order them for you.
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Old 02-23-2005, 12:25 PM
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Thanks for the info.

What is a lug bolt?

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Old 02-23-2005, 12:39 PM
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Thanks for the info.

What is a lug bolt?

Neil
They are not important. They hold your wheels on.

BMWs have lug bolts. Most other cars have lug nuts.
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Old 02-23-2005, 12:39 PM
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the metal tube is the spark plug puller. i have like 4 sets at home with the tire centering tool... i think 4. i also have some screw drivers all for sale. they are all pretty much new and never used. let me know if you are interested.
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Old 02-23-2005, 12:40 PM
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Ohh right, why didn't you say so! In the UK we call them wheel nuts, or wheel bolts. Never heard the term lug nuts.

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Old 02-23-2005, 12:42 PM
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Ohh right, why didn't you say so! In the UK we call them wheel nuts, or wheel bolts. Never heard the term lug nuts.

Thanks

Thats what I do when I walk up my stairs. Lug Nuts.

OK that was stupid.
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Old 02-23-2005, 12:43 PM
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the metal tube is the spark plug puller.
I don't mean to argue but I do think it's for the lug bolts, not the spark plugs. BMW doesn't expect an owner to change the plugs (although a lot of us do) but they do realize that one may have to change a tire at some point.
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Old 02-23-2005, 12:43 PM
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Is the metal tube the spark plug puller or the lug nut remover. Or is it both!

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Old 02-23-2005, 12:44 PM
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I don't mean to argue but I do think it's for the lug bolts, not the spark plugs. BMW doesn't expect an owner to change the plugs (although a lot of us do) but they do realize that one may have to change a tire at some point.
I thought you phoned the BMW assistance when you had to change the tyre!!!
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Old 02-23-2005, 12:53 PM
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Is the metal tube the spark plug puller or the lug nut remover. Or is it both!

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Its for the lug bots. Wheel bolts. What ever. I promise.
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Old 02-23-2005, 01:02 PM
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I don't mean to argue but I do think it's for the lug bolts, not the spark plugs. BMW doesn't expect an owner to change the plugs (although a lot of us do) but they do realize that one may have to change a tire at some point.
In the olden days (80s), BMWs always came with a spark plug socket (as well as WAY more other tools). My M6's toolkit is complete, and there's one in there. The trays still have provisions for the spark plug socket (E46s do, but it's empty). The socket is usually 16mm. BMW lugbolts are 17. Besides, the thing is made from sheetmetal and probably wouldn't withstand the torque necessary to undo a wheel.

Look starting about post #20 in this thread:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36734
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Old 02-23-2005, 03:14 PM
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I don't mean to argue but I do think it's for the lug bolts, not the spark plugs. BMW doesn't expect an owner to change the plugs (although a lot of us do) but they do realize that one may have to change a tire at some point.
my E36 92 318i came with spark plug pullers so that's what i thought it was. quite handy actually since it's a one piece so it'll never come apart when you yank the tool out.

never knew they changed it to a lug bolt remover. i thought that's what the funky "S" shaped thing is.
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Old 02-23-2005, 09:10 PM
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I have to agree with chivas.
Although the metal tube with socket shape at one end can be used on wheel bolts, you may not be able to generate enough torque with the pin designed for turning it to be of any use. It is more likely a spark plug puller and was supplied with earlier models, when DIY was more common.
The heavy "S" shaped tool is the one meant for the wheel bolts.

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Old 02-24-2005, 01:27 AM
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Seems like I have casued a stir over this metal bar. I have now managed to find the parts on the BMW database.

The description of the metal bar is

SPARK PLUG WRENCH Part 71111181460 $15.12

There is no mention of a tire centering tool, I think it's the pin item to use with the spark plug wrench.

Here is the link to realoem's web site for the euro tool kit. Item 11 is what looks like a small metal tube with a hole at the top for a pin or screwdriver, it is described as a socket wrench. Very interestings, it looks like everyone maybe right, one way or anyother.

Don't think I have room in my tool kit for it. Might just order it and see what I get. Might fit somewhere.

Does the locking wheel nut key go in the tool kit normally? There is no real space to fit it. I have just got mine next to the warning triangle.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Neil
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Old 02-24-2005, 01:49 AM
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Seems like I have casued a stir over this metal bar. I have now managed to find the parts on the BMW database.

The description of the metal bar is

SPARK PLUG WRENCH Part 71111181460 $15.12

There is no mention of a tire centering tool, I think it's the pin item to use with the spark plug wrench.

Here is the link to realoem's web site for the euro tool kit. Item 11 is what looks like a small metal tube with a hole at the top for a pin or screwdriver, it is described as a socket wrench. Very interestings, it looks like everyone maybe right, one way or anyother.

Don't think I have room in my tool kit for it. Might just order it and see what I get. Might fit somewhere.

Does the locking wheel nut key go in the tool kit normally? There is no real space to fit it. I have just got mine next to the warning triangle.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Neil
It's definitely the spark plug wrench, hence the internal fitting to secure the sparkplug and and the "spark plug wrench" designation in the ETK. The part number for the missing pin is 71 11 1 093 774. You are also missing a socket and the sunroof crank, for a total of 4 missing items.

socket 71 11 1 181 418
emergency roof tool 54 1 21 873 572
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Old 02-24-2005, 01:52 AM
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Where about does the socket and sunroof crank go? I don't think I have any more room!

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Old 02-24-2005, 02:04 AM
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Where about does the socket and sunroof crank go? I don't think I have any more room!

Neil
See the thin zig-zag beneath the spanners? That's where the emergency crank goes. The little socket goes to the left of the largest spanner near the center of it. It's very close to the end of the wheel bolt wrench.
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Old 02-25-2005, 10:45 AM
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In our E38's owners manual, it indicates the tube thing is for the spark plugs and the rod is to center the wheel, when changing them.

They were standard equipment on the 2000 E38, but those are the ones unlikely to use them, the E39ers need them more.

Maybe I will get them from the wife's ride!
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Old 02-25-2005, 12:45 PM
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In our E38's owners manual, it indicates the tube thing is for the spark plugs and the rod is to center the wheel, when changing them.

They were standard equipment on the 2000 E38, but those are the ones unlikely to use them, the E39ers need them more.

Maybe I will get them from the wife's ride!
i've got 3 kits sitting here. email me if you are interested in the spark plug puller.
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Old 02-25-2005, 02:38 PM
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I was wrong, you guys are right.
It is a spark plug wrench and the S shaped tool is the lug bolt wrench. I looked closer and the tool we were talking about does have some plastic to protect the spark plug end inside it.

However, the other tool is definately a wheel centering tool to hold your wheel while trying to thread a lug bolt. Look in your manual.
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