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E46 (1999 - 2006)
The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 03-13-2005, 05:02 PM
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Went to dealership. Hows this price?

2005 325ci
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out the door price is ~34,890.

how is the price? he searched and this was basically the only 3 series that came up under these options. also, it will take 1-2 months to arrive. any thoughts?

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Old 03-13-2005, 05:46 PM
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That is very high you can go to bmwusa.com and price it for less. Go to edmunds or carsdirect and price it out they will give you the invoice price and then you can work from there. I would also recommend emailing some dealers in your area I was able to get 3,000 off the sticker price by doing this tell them you have an offer for this much and see if they beat it thats what I did. All I have to do now is go to the dealer and sign.
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Old 03-13-2005, 05:55 PM
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2005 325ci
Sport Package
Xenon headlights
manual transmission

out the door price is ~34,890.

how is the price? he searched and this was basically the only 3 series that came up under these options. also, it will take 1-2 months to arrive. any thoughts?

This quote was given at Irvine BMW.
Since taxes and registration fees vary GREATLY across the country (and most people have no clue what the rates are where you are located), you might get some better feedback if you post the sale price you agreed to before sales tax or registration fees.
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Old 03-13-2005, 05:57 PM
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Last Tuesday I bought a 2005 325i with Automatic, Sport Package, Xenons, and On-Board Computer for $30,065, $1500 below invoice, and $32,709 out the door. I went through the internet dealer, offered $1500 below invoice, and the next day I was driving away in my new car.
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Old 03-13-2005, 06:51 PM
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Based on California sales tax and fees, I'd say that is a very good out the door price.
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Old 03-13-2005, 06:55 PM
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Since taxes and registration fees vary GREATLY across the country (and most people have no clue what the rates are where you are located), you might get some better feedback if you post the sale price you agreed to before sales tax or registration fees.
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Old 03-13-2005, 06:59 PM
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Based on California sales tax and fees, I'd say that is a very good out the door price.
really? this is basically the last one left they could locate with all the options...i really wanted a 330, but..i dunno..
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Old 03-13-2005, 07:04 PM
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Last Tuesday I bought a 2005 325i with Automatic, Sport Package, Xenons, and On-Board Computer for $30,065, $1500 below invoice, and $32,709 out the door. I went through the internet dealer, offered $1500 below invoice, and the next day I was driving away in my new car.
Below invoice or below MSRP? Why would they sell the car at a loss?

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Old 03-13-2005, 07:06 PM
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Below invoice or below MSRP? Why would they sell the car at a loss?

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Old 03-13-2005, 07:08 PM
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Dealerships dont actually pay invoice for their cars.
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Old 03-13-2005, 07:12 PM
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Ach, I see.

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Old 03-13-2005, 07:20 PM
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Old 03-13-2005, 07:23 PM
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Below invoice. Don't forget about the $2500 dealer incentive for the 325i. So I figure they still were making $1k after the deal.

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Below invoice or below MSRP? Why would they sell the car at a loss?

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Old 03-13-2005, 07:32 PM
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Below invoice. Don't forget about the $2500 dealer incentive for the 325i. So I figure they still were making $1k after the deal.
its actually at 325ci, not the sedan...i wish the coupes had the 2500 incentive
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Old 03-13-2005, 07:33 PM
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omg i remeber a year and a half ago when the 04's just came out. I got my 04 325Ci, sticker $39000. Then after clearcoat, extended warrenty, tint, alarm, tax, and out the door at ike 43000 . FOR a 325CI!! and you getting yours at 34!!! (and thats considered too high )
ouch! 43k total?
i guess i am getting a pretty good deal at ~35k.
i hear of many ppl getting their 325ci at ~33-34k
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Old 03-13-2005, 07:35 PM
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The Ci and the i are two VERY different cars when it comes to pricing; in addition to the lower base price of the i, it also currently has a $2500 dealer kick-back. $34,890 OTD in CA is an excellent price for the Ci and a terrible price for the i.
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Old 03-13-2005, 07:45 PM
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Hmmm... 33K before tax + license with 34,890 "out the door"? Doesn't add up. Tax on 33k in San Fernando Valley = 8.25% = 2.7K tax, ie: $35.7k with out license fee.

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Old 03-13-2005, 07:55 PM
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Ach, I see.
What people are not explaining to you is that the "Market Allowance" is a dealer sales incentive, where a dealer gets $XXXX back for each car sold. Because of this, it is possible to buy "below invoice", because the dealer's actual cost is "invoice - $XXXX" (and $XXXX for some sedans is quite big). BMWs with Market Allowances seem to be going for around "invoice - $XXXX + $1300" or so (more or less, depending on how good an haggler one is).

The $XXXX depends upon the model (not all models have a Market Allowance), and applies only to current BMW stock (i.e., you can't order a car). They're also currently only applicable to sedans (no coupes, convertibles, or wagons). To see the current incentives (and when they expire), see here (zip code set to 92618, for Irvine BMW):

http://www.edmunds.com/incentives/Re...tives.2.2.BMW*

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Old 03-13-2005, 08:02 PM
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Hmmm... 33K before tax + license with 34,890 "out the door"? Doesn't add up. Tax on 33k in San Fernando Valley = 8.25% = 2.7K tax, ie: $35.7k with out license fee.
orignally the car was marked around 34-35k then including tax/license the final came out to be around 37k.
i negotiated and he let me get it for 33k w/out tax/license which then equaled to 34,980.
according to the responese, i should jump on this one ASAP. this is suppposedly one of the last 3 series coupes available.
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Old 03-13-2005, 08:10 PM
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i should jump on this one ASAP. this is suppposedly one of the last 3 series coupes available.
As long as you will be happy with it, you said you really wanted a 330. Are the coupes done with, I thought we had a bit more time with them, ie: the sedans are done with now?
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Old 03-13-2005, 08:18 PM
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As long as you will be happy with it, you said you really wanted a 330. Are the coupes done with, I thought we had a bit more time with them, ie: the sedans are done with now?
there are many sedan he can get, just the coupes are getting rare. at least with the options i wanted. i also wanted a black one.
i would be content with this.
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Old 03-13-2005, 08:18 PM
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yeah.

I options i got are
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I know we didn't get a good deal becuz my moms not a wieseler/ bargainer

dont feel bad man, im in the same boat. got my 04' in JUNE 04, all options are in the sig, for 39k, after tax dest ibex warrantys it was 44K
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Old 03-13-2005, 08:22 PM
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The E46 coupes will be produced for at least another year. If you really want a 330Ci, you have plenty of time to order exactly what you want. That said, I'd jump on a 325Ci for under $35,000 OTD.
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Old 03-13-2005, 08:41 PM
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The E46 coupes will be produced for at least another year. If you really want a 330Ci, you have plenty of time to order exactly what you want. That said, I'd jump on a 325Ci for under $35,000 OTD.
at irvine bmw, he only found two 3 series cars that were available(with the options i wanted-SP, xenons, black); one 325ci and one 330ci.the 330ci he wasnt sure he could get yet. it didn't seem like i had much of a choice when i was there.
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Yep. So, tK715 has plenty of time to get any coupe. The dealer may be bs'ing just a bit on the availability, but the deal, if they stick to it sounds pretty good.

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