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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 03-22-2005, 02:34 PM
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BMW E39 First Aid Box storage kit addition (increase storage space)

I'm trying to figure out existing (initially confusing) information showing us how to add BMW storage boxes under each of the E39 front seats.
I'll summarize what I find out.
If there are any questions, I'll ask them so that others can come to this spot to find the answer in a single place.

Parts required to add a
(3" high x 9" long x 6" deep) storage space that slides out from under each front seat include the screws that hold the bracket which holds the box which holds the kit.

More specifically (screws/bracket/box/kit) part numbers may be:
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52-10-7-044-958 (2) BMW FIRST AID BOX BRACKET
- 52 10 8 099 797 (6) BMW FIRST AID BOX BRACKET SCREWS M6 x 12 (T30 or 5mm hex head, self-tapping preferred)
- 52-10-7-044-958 (2) BMW FIRST AID BOX
- 6 mm washers (6)

And, optionally (for one of the under-seat storage boxes):
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52-10-8-228-146 BMW FIRST AID KIT (gray, black & tan available)

Note: Some threads say the FIRST AID BOX BRACKET is PN 52 10 7 045 018; other threads suggest it is PN
52 10 8 176 555.
Note: Some threads say the FIRST AID KIT is PN
52 10 8 226 451; others say it's 82-11-1-469-062; others say it's 51-47-8-163-269 (see details below).

With all these part numbers, it's probably model & year dependent (yet none of the threads seem to mention that probability). Also, very few, if any, threads make note of the fact that you need part numbers for four components: screws, brackets, boxes, and kits.

Tools:
- 5 mm hex driver
- 6 mm tap

Time:
- Research time (4 or 5 hours without this thread)
- Installation time (1 hour)

Note: These part numbers assume (perhaps incorrectly) that the 3-series under-seat setup is the same as the 5-series setup.

Apparently, the solution isn't as simple as looking up the parts in the ETK as shown by the dismal results I got when I entered "First aid kit" into my ETK today.





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Old 03-22-2005, 02:56 PM
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Review of thread on the first aid kit

For the record, this 3-series thread intimates the diagram of the BMW E39 first aid kit may only be in the TIS (and not in the ETK).

BMW Model Discussions > 3-Series for First Aid Kit Bracket?
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...it+part+number

This diagram, reputedly from the TIS, implies the BMW first aid bracket (at least for the 3 series' BMWs) is under the driver's seat (I thought it was under the passenger's seat based on what I read previously).
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Thiis thread, for a 99 528i, posts a similar part number, but the location appears to be under the passenger seat (if I read the diagram correctly).

Everything Else > Classifieds > first aid kit for '99 528iAT(beige)/triangle
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...it+part+number

Also, the part number for the missing three parts is not given:
FIRST AID BOX BRACKET ?
FIRST AID BOX BRACKET SCREWS ?
FIRST AID BOX ?
FIRST AID KIT 52-10-8-228-146 (GRAY)

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The screws do not seem to show up in the ETK

Similarly, I can find a part number for the First Aid Box Bracket screws in the General BMW forum thread (P/N 52 108 099 797):
BMW Model Discussions > General BMW > screws for first aid kit bracket
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...it+part+number

But, when I type that BMW part number into my recently arrived ETK, it says:
"sorry this part number is not in the parts catalog database or not installed in this model".
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This 3-series thread implies the first aid box kit installs under the passenger seat (contrary to the reputed TIS diagram posted above).
BMW Model Discussions > 3-Series > need part number
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...it+part+number

And, more importantly, that 3-series thread provided a supplier.
Unfortunately, that supplier web page ( http://www.eurobuyers.com ) simply says:
"We Are Sorry."
"EUROBUYERS IS TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE DUE TO MEDICAL REASONS."

Hopefully this thread will attempt to answer these three questions:
Q1: What are the part number for the E39:
- FIRST AID BOX BRACKET
- FIRST AID BOX BRACKET SCREWS
- FIRST AID BOX
- FIRST AID KIT

Q2: Where does this first aid assembly go (passenger or driver seat)?

Q3: Where can we (really) obtain these components for a USA E39?
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Probably the best single thread on the subject is this 3-series thread which shows a different set of constantly changing part numbers for the BMW FIRST AID BOX (PN 52-10-7-044-958, $11.79) & something called the "Holder" (PN 52-10-7-045-018, $5.80), which is probably the FIRST AID BOX BRACKET. This thread gave yet another part number for the FIRST AID BOX BRACKET of 52 10 7 045 018 (in addition to PN 52 10 8 176 555).

The part number for the first aid kit bracket mounting screws was provided in this thread as PN 52 10 8 099 797.

But, my ETK, confusingly, fails to recognize any of these as valid part numbers (even though the 3-series is included in my ETK CDROM).
BMW Model Discussions > 3-Series > FYI: First Aid Kit
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...=First+Aid+Kit

At least a supplier (Dan @ Cutter) was suggested ( $11.79 ).
Based on Internet searches for "Dan" and "Cutter", I presume the contact to be daninparts@cuttermotors.com or parts@cuttermotors.com but, again, the web home page for Cutter Motors ( http://cuttermotors.com ) appears to be defunct.

Note: This thread additionally discussed the need for six "M6 x 12mm with a T30 head self-tapping screws" (but hex heads were also suggested), the fact that the 3" high x 9" long x 6" deep first aid kit box and first aid kit box bracket should fit under either front seat, yet it might interfere with air flow, and the worry that the first aid kit contents may be cooked by the heated front seats were all discussed.
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The thread above contained a nice step by step procedure that I'll reproduce below:

1. Unless you can find the M6x12 screws in the proper self-tapping style (not bloody likely), it is strongly recommended that you purchase or borrow a 6mm tap and handle to tap the front holes. Shouldn't be more than $8 and it will take a fraction of the time and effort to install the boxes that it would if you attempt it without tapping the holes first.

2. I installed the driver's side without tapping the holes. The rear hole looks like it had been started by the seat manufacturer and it wasn't that big of a deal.

The two front holes, OTOH, are a major PITA. I finally got the screws in but it was a headache. It took me atleast 30 minutes of pushing and grunting in a cramped area to do the two front holes. I can easily see this as being a major possibility of stripping the screw threads eventually and/or boogering up the holes themselves.

3. I wasn't so lucky with the passenger side bracket. I tried like a bastard for 45 minutes to start those two front holes and couldn't do it. Finally gave up and got a 6mm tap. Tapping the holes takes about one minute, then installing the screws another minute.

4. I also used a 6mm washer with each screw.

5. I used both a 5mm hex head driver with a ratchet and 5mm hex head keys. There's enough space to use the ratchet on the front screws but I had to use the hex head key for the rear screw because of a bar that's right in the way.

The box lids aren't that great (flimsy plastic hinges) so I don't know how many openings and closings they'll suffer before they come apart.

Still, I now have ample extra storage space which is easily accesible from the driver's seat. To me, that added interior storage space is worth the money.
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For the record, this E39 5-series thread supplies yet another part number for the FIRST AID BOX BRACKET (52.10.8.176.555):
BMW Model Discussion > 5-Series > Bracket for E39 Fist Aid Kit
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...it+part+number

This thread also suggests www.eurobuyers.com as did others (yet that web site is not in operation today).

This particular thread suggesed "Brian the parts pimp" at:
http://www.mye28.com
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I think the amount of text in your posts and the sheer number of posts was a recipe for strongly discouraging anyone from reading this thread, so I'm going to help you out :-)

Some of that stuff is for other models, yes. Stick to the stuff in the E39 diagram (145-147, and 555 bracket) and you will be fine. The screw that does not show up for you is in fact for first aid kit brackets, but it's not used on the E39.

The appropriate E38/E39 first aid bracket screws are 51 24 8 119 274 (M6x9 torx bolt with washer).
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This web site shows yet another part number for what they call a "BMW FIRST AID KIT"
PN 82-11-1-469-062

http://store.yahoo.com/eagleday/roadsafety1.html
First Aid Kit From BMW $25.95
On-the-road first aid essentials in a soft, zippered pouch.

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This MZ3 web site shows yet another part number for a BMW FIRST AID KIT:
PN 51-47-8-163-269 and another FIRST AID KIT BRACKET PN 51-47-8-398-906.
http://www.mz3.net/articles/066.html
This particular enthusiast velcroed a kit from Target in the trunk.


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Again some of those are intended for different models. Doesn't mean you can't use them.
The 062# is a first aid pouch that's just a general accessory for the US market. It's not designed for a specific model.

If you want one of the seat-mounted ones then the 145-147 are for you.
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Thanks Tyrone.
I'm still confused as to the part numbers and suppliers for the E39
The posts are all over the map (as you can see above).

Everyone quotes one part number or two but there are actually four parts:
- Three screws hold the bracket which holds the box which holds the kit.

The ETK I recently purchased was no help at all as almost all the part numbers posted came up blank in the ETK.

Even the two-inch thick Bentley Service Manuals I recently received were no help whatsoever as they didn't contain a single reference to the first aid kit, first aid box bracket, first aid box, and first aid box bracket mounting screws.

If anyone has actually installed the two first aid boxes under the seats on an E39, please post the part numbers and the supplier you obtained them from so we all benefit.
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Old 03-22-2005, 10:26 PM
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See also this writeup below for the E46.
http://www.eurobuyers.com/firstaidkit.html

The BMW part number is: 52-10-8-226-449 and includes everything you need:
*******> ********>

mounting bracket

3 screws for mounting bracket

black plastic case

first aid supplies (inside the case)


The kit was said to fit under the front passenger seat even with power sport seats. I have power sport seats and confirmed the claim.
Here's a top-front view of the bracket and self tapping screws.




For reference, here's the bracket setting on top of the black case. I didn't snap it all the way in because it snaps in pretty securely (sorry for the bad picture).




Here's a top view of the sealed first aid kit packet.



The packet folds up nicely and can be easily stuffed into the black plastic box (notice the shape of the box and the shape of the doubled over packet).




Front view of the packet stuffed into the first aid box.


Anyway, the first thing to do is to raise the front of the seat all the way up. Now slide the seat all the way back. Looking under the front part of the seat, you'll notice at least six untapped holes. Hold the bracket up to the seat as a guide to find the holes. There are two screw holes at the inner sides and one at the rear of the bracket.
Holding the bracket in place, use a #30 Torx bit with short extension and ratchet or T-handle to install the first screw. I found it easiest to install the rearmost screw first. These are self tapping screws and require a little bit of force to get them started. In the below picture of the installed bracket, the yellow arrows indicate the screw locations. The tabs that the black box snaps into are circled in red.




Once you have installed the bracket and tightened the screws, pop in the black plastic case, rear first. Push up firmly on the front part of the case to snap it in place. Here's what it looks like with the seat still all the way up and back.




After putting the front of the seat all the way down, you'll notice that there is no contact between the black plastic case and the front passenger floorboard. This is true even when sliding the seat all the way forward.

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This web site shows a BMW with all the euro options discussed above (and more):
http://www.tmk.com/bmw/index.shtml

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Here's a shot of the M3 euro first aid (screws/bracket/box/kit).
http://www.amargosa.com/bmw/m3mods.html
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This is perhaps the BEST selection of photos on the Internet showing not only the euro-style BMW underseat storage compartment screws/bracket/box/kit but also the euro under-seat fire extinguisher setup.
BMW-forums.com > Help/Tech Category > FAQ > Upgrades & Performance
http://www.bmw-forums.com/forum/topic5554.html
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Here is a Eurobuyers order form which shows the three colors the storage compartment comes in ( http://www.eurobuyers.com/accessory.html ).

The main problem here is that this web site seems to be defunct at this time.
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Or . . . . . you could stick some bandages the glove box and call it a day.
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Stick to the stuff in the E39 diagram (145-147, and 555 bracket) and you will be fine. The E38/E39 first aid bracket screws are 51 24 8 119 274 (M6x9 torx bolt with washer).
Thanks!
That only leaves one number unconfirmed (the box itself).

Is this the part set for a gray interior 2002 525i E39?
- 52 10 8 228 146 (1) FIRST AID KIT (gray)
- 52 10 7 044 958 (2) FIRST AID BOX
- 52 10 8 176 555 (2) FIRST AID BOX BRACKET
- 51 24 8 119 274 (6) TORX BOLTS M6 x 9 (+ 6mm washers)
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Or . . . . . you could stick bandages in the glove box
One thing I should note is that I probably won't even buy the actual first-aid kit (bandages, scissors, tape, etc.).
I just want the extra storage areas under each seat.

If I do order a first aid kit, I would only get one (so that the other seat has the storage area for my Garmin Street Pilot III GPS unit).

Having owned many luxury cars, I'm amazed there's no stock place to fit something this small in the BMW cockpit:
Physical Size: 3.2"H x 6.8"W x 2.6"D (8.0 x 17.3 x 6.5 cm)
http://gpsinformation.net/spiii/sp3review.htm
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The -958 is just an empty box. Other models have the option to order the box (52 10 7 044 958), the contents of the box (52 10 8 226 451), or the box+contents together (52 10 8 226 449)--3 different part numbers. Good if you only need to replace certain things

For your car, the empty box can be deleted from the list.
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Thanks Tyrone. You're helping us get a LOT closer.

a) For the passenger seat, I want the first-aid kit in the storage compartment.
b) For the driver seat, I want the storage compartment to be EMPTY (so that I can put the GPS unit there every day).

Given that, is THIS the recommended part list for an E39 (2002 525i)?
PASSENGER SEAT:
52 10 8 228 146
(1) KIT (gray)
52 10 8 176 555 (1) BRACKET
51 24 8 119 274 (3) BOLTS, M6x9 (+6mm washers)

DRIVER SEAT:
52 10 7 044 958 (1) BOX
52 10 8 176 555 (1) BRACKET
51 24 8 119 274 (3) BOLTS, M6x9 (+6mm washers)

Note: Is this correct that only the first item is different between the seats (given that only one side will actually contain first-aid bandages, scissors, foil, gauze, etc.).

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Ah, I see what you want to do. I'm just not sure if the empty box will fit the E39 bracket, since the box is only listed for other cars. It may very well be compatible, but you'd either need to try it out or ask someone who's seen both. I imagine one of your dozen pictures may have the answer too
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This has to be the most difficult (to follow) thread by shaftdrive - so far.




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