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Old 03-31-2005, 10:53 PM
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So my old college roommate was down in Texas for a business trip. Was having a great night visiting. I took him and some of his coworkers for a ride to see the new car. Turned down what I thought was a nice secluded business park area where there was 1 nice sweeping turn. I gunned it, keeping the car in 3rd and had a great turn. So naturally there was a cop waiting at the end of the turn. Game over.

He was a very nice officer surprisingly, but he wrote me a ticket. I won't say how fast he wrote me up for originally, but suffice it to say he dropped it down to only going 40 in a 30 mph zone. What a way to ruin a GREAT night. I guess the car is now officially broken in.

Anyway - anyone have some advice on how to proceed from here? I've already taken defensive driving. The ticket says speeding (and a large number next to it) in the description field. But in the alleged speed section - he changed it to 40. Should I just shut up, pay the fine and be done, or should I contest it? Problem is - in court, he could easily raise it back up to the higher number since it's shown elsewhere on the ticket.
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:13 PM
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I got my first ticket a few weeks back. The officer said I was speeding and following too close. How fast was I going? 83 in a 75 (clear day, dry roads). The only reason I was close behind the guy in front of me was because he had just gotten in my lane. He wrote me up for the following close violation, and let me go on the "speeding" (yes, I know, technically still in violation, but come on). Either way it seemed like a total load, and I felt like I just got pulled over for having a red BMW. I know I'm kinda raionalizing, but I'd be willing to bet money that if it was a few months prior and I was in that situation in my Civic, I'd have been fine.

Since it was 150+ miles to the courthouse from where I live, I just paid the fine and referred to it as my "luxury tax." Also, here in Colorado, if you just pay the fine without contesting, the points are automatically cut in half on many infractions. I'm not sure how solid you'd have to be to successfully contest it (especially since the higher speed is on the ticket), but you could always try playing the odds that the cop doesn't show up on the court date. Or maybe if you dig deep enough, you can find a technicality to get off on, but that's probably a long shot.

To combat this, I'm mixing in vigilance with the V1 I just purchased. That's not a panacea, but hopefully it will help keep my insurance rates down.
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Old 04-01-2005, 05:06 AM
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Anyway - anyone have some advice on how to proceed from here? I've already taken defensive driving. The ticket says speeding (and a large number next to it) in the description field. But in the alleged speed section - he changed it to 40. Should I just shut up, pay the fine and be done, or should I contest it? Problem is - in court, he could easily raise it back up to the higher number since it's shown elsewhere on the ticket.
Sorry to hear this.

Here in TX you are allowed to take the defensive driving course 1 per year with no maximum. That is the best route I would suggest. If you do not feel like taking the course you can request at your hearing a deferred adjudication (probation). You will be on probation so should you get a ticket during the probation period you will have to pay the original fine plus then some and then the new ticket.

If you do not have one already you need to get a good radar detector: Escort 8500 or Valentine 1.
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Old 04-01-2005, 07:15 AM
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Looks like someone isn't going by the book when it comes to the the break in procedure

At any rate, if I were you I would just keep my mouth shut and pay the fine. It sounds like the officer was already very generous. I would think that any judge would laugh you right out of the court room if you tried to get any more slack.
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Old 04-01-2005, 08:44 AM
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I'd suggest paying and being more vigilant. i know, sometimes it's luck. As for the V1 thing, I had one for a month - took it on a long drive and my commute to work was 90 miles round trip. Sent it back as it was constantly going off with lame false alarms. Maybe 3 times out of 30 times I saw cops did it give me any warning of radar. Pretty sure the cops around San Diego just don't use much radar.
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Old 04-01-2005, 09:57 AM
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iceman,

What a bummer. And you thought you were still on the Autobahns. It is crazy to drive so slow here after you taste the speeds during ED.

I recommend paying the fine. The cop was already soft on your fine.....not worth a contest.

In the future it may be best trying to check the deserted route for cops...sort of like a dry run. The radar detectors may work but it might be too late.
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:22 PM
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Depends what agency wrote you the ticket. If it was DPS or a suburban/county cop, I'd probably go the defensive driving/deferred abjudication route. If it's City of Austin, I'm sure there are lawyers there that specialize in traffic court. Here in Houston, there are several well known ones that boast of a 95% or better dismissal rate. If you have time, ask at the Austin get-together next weekend and see if anyone knows of one.
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:47 PM
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I would not contest it if I were you. You could go to the judge and request him/her that is there any way you could get the ticket off your record. Sometimes they will let you sign up for a course and the ticket will never hit your record.

You still have to pay the fine and pay for the course, but at least the ticket is not your record. That's what matters to me the most because that would result in my losing my licence.

That is how I do it in Utah. It has worked for me so far. I also take that defensive driving course once in a while. I have about 14 tickets in the last 12 years but I have still managed to keep my drivers licence and insurance low.

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Old 04-01-2005, 01:33 PM
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iceman,

What a bummer. And you thought you were still on the Autobahns. It is crazy to drive so slow here after you taste the speeds during ED.

I recommend paying the fine. The cop was already soft on your fine.....not worth a contest.

In the future it may be best trying to check the deserted route for cops...sort of like a dry run. The radar detectors may work but it might be too late.
Pitt, that's a brilliant idea. I never would have thought to do something like that. It's not foolproof (sometimes the cops show up later), but it would certainly help out. Thanks
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Old 04-01-2005, 01:37 PM
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Thanks for the replies. The problem for me is that I just took defensive driving recently for a BS ticket. The street that leads to my house is a 40 mph st. Even in passive driving in my old car, it was really hard to keep it that slow. The road is 2 lanes in each direction, with an extra middle lane for left hand turns. 40mph feels like you're crawling. So I got pulled over for driving 50 - cop pulled me over in my driveway. Worst part is - I wasn't even driving hard - just kind of coasting home on a weeknight, tired.

Anyway defensive driving can only be used once a year here. So my choices are to pay the fine, and deal with the points on my licesne, or go to court. Given that the cop already reduced me down so much, but that the higher number is still written elsewhere on the ticket, there's a defnite chance things could get worse. A ticket lawyer might be a good option. I don't care about the fine so much (I mean I do - but at this point I'm stuck paying money no matter what) - its the points on my record.
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I got a ticket for doing 85mph in a 50mph.
I went to court and got it reduce to only 10mph over the speed limit
with only 2 points. I am taking a drivers class to get rid of the 2points.(I was very lucky)

Your ticket was already reduce. Just pay the ticket.

I think BMW cars have a little to blame, because they build theses great cars
and you cannot tell how fast you are really going.
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