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Old 05-02-2005, 07:28 AM
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That idea is so far beyond stupid that I'm just at a loss for words.

Why, exactly?
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Old 05-02-2005, 07:31 AM
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Why, exactly?
Assuming that you'll never need a critical piece of safety equipment is a dumb**** idea. I would be amazed that I have to explain myself here, if you hadn't asked the question in the first place.
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Old 05-02-2005, 07:33 AM
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BEST mod for that car, is get some GOOD driver training.

Jim Russell, Derek Daly, Bondurant, Skip Barber, Roos Racing, etc. Or BMW Performance Center 1 or 2 day Car Control, or M School.

You will get more out of the car by tuning the driver than you can get by hardware mods.
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Old 05-02-2005, 07:42 AM
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And guess what, cars with about 100 HP can leave you in the dust when driven properly.
It's a fact, my experience picking good lines on a motorcycle allowed me to pass some M3's with my 325i. Granted that's running in D group but still, better driving makes for a faster car.



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Since no CAI adds significant power, and any such mod will void your engine warranty, why bother?
Dinan CAIs installed through your BMW dealer do not void the warranty and in fact have a warranty to match the factory one. Granted you still don't have that much of a increase but at least the warranty isn't voided.
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Old 05-02-2005, 07:52 AM
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It's a fact, my experience picking good lines on a motorcycle allowed me to pass some M3's with my 325i. Granted that's running in D group but still, better driving makes for a faster car.





Dinan CAIs installed through your BMW dealer do not void the warranty and in fact have a warranty to match the factory one. Granted you still don't have that much of a increase but at least the warranty isn't voided.
WRONG. ABSOLUTELY, COMPLETELY, AND UTTERLY WRONG.

You absolutely need to stop spreading that. Dinan parts void your warranty even more than any other parts, since the mods are reported to BMW WHEN THEY ARE INSTALLED. There is no "going back to stock" once you start down the Dinan route. The supplimentary warranty theoretically covers you for warranty coverage that BMW denies. But Dinan parts ABSOLUTELY void your factory warranty.
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Assuming that you'll never need a critical piece of safety equipment is a dumb**** idea. I would be amazed that I have to explain myself here, if you hadn't asked the question in the first place.

Well, it's good to see that literacy is still a problem for America's children. Next time, I'll just assume rampant stupidity, and forego the part where I say, "assume I don't need it..."

Can anyone *else* comment on the feasibility of such a thing? Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-02-2005, 08:50 AM
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Well, it's good to see that literacy is still a problem for America's children. Next time, I'll just assume rampant stupidity, and forego the part where I say, "assume I don't need it..."

Can anyone *else* comment on the feasibility of such a thing? Thanks in advance.
Sure, my alter ego would also like to step in and tell you that you're an idiot.
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Old 05-02-2005, 09:33 AM
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The supplimentary warranty theoretically covers you for warranty coverage that BMW denies. But Dinan parts ABSOLUTELY void your factory warranty.
Yeah, I had my Dinan goodies installed on my car at a BMW dealership that was also a Dinan authorized dealer as well.

They made absolutely NO comments to me regarding the Dinan mods on my car when certain engine components failed (cam shaft sensor, thermostat), thus for the end user, it's virtually the same.

I know people mistakenly say Dinan doesn't void your factory warranty... but you also have to state that Dinan will pick up where the factory warranty drops.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:10 AM
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Yeah, I had my Dinan goodies installed on my car at a BMW dealership that was also a Dinan authorized dealer as well.

They made absolutely NO comments to me regarding the Dinan mods on my car when certain engine components failed (cam shaft sensor, thermostat), thus for the end user, it's virtually the same.

I know people mistakenly say Dinan doesn't void your factory warranty... but you also have to state that Dinan will pick up where the factory warranty drops.
Well, yes. I did mention the supplimentary warranty.

But that's still not in any way the same... And if the previous owner of my 323 had installed, say, a Conforti intake, the Vehicle History Report would not have an all caps paragraph stating that BMW will not cover any failures related to the Dinan intake. I consider a clean report extremely valuable in a car that might be traded in at a BMW dealer.
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Old 05-02-2005, 05:27 PM
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WRONG. ABSOLUTELY, COMPLETELY, AND UTTERLY WRONG.

You absolutely need to stop spreading that. Dinan parts void your warranty even more than any other parts, since the mods are reported to BMW WHEN THEY ARE INSTALLED. There is no "going back to stock" once you start down the Dinan route. The supplimentary warranty theoretically covers you for warranty coverage that BMW denies. But Dinan parts ABSOLUTELY void your factory warranty.

My mistake. I took my dealer's word for it in their newletter when they announced that they were now Dinan authorized dealers/installers and that the warranty was not affected by the installation of their parts. Again, my mistake.
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Dinan CAIs installed through your BMW dealer do not void the warranty and in fact have a warranty to match the factory one. Granted you still don't have that much of a increase but at least the warranty isn't voided.
WRONG. ANY CAI voids certain parts of your warranty. It is just that Dinan offers a supplimentary warranty to "cover" you. Now if you engine goes up and BMW doesn't warranty it, Dinan MAY step up to the plate, but may also decide that it wasn't their CAI that caused the problem. Where does that leave you?

The nice thing, in MANY cases, but not ALL, since the same dealer does the BMW and Dinan warranty stuff, you get if fixed and who cares who covers it. But thinking that you are fully covered is not accurate and may bite you big time.

EDIT: I wrote the above before reading other posts.

The big point is there is no guarantee that the Dinan warranty will cover you for all problems that may be not covered by BMW.

Plus you pay extra for Dinan stuff due to that warranty, and in many cases Dinan is not the way to go if you want TOP performance. You do get an excellent balance between increased performance and mainly street use.
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