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The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 04-27-2005, 04:38 PM
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Tires on the Sports Package

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I don't like the seats on the Sports package of the 2005 330i. So what options do I have if I have to replace them with the other seats which come with the standard models? Any costs with that?

Another question- The tires seem to be wider on the sports package models, am I correct? Does this add to any road noise? What are the pros and cons of these tires?

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Old 04-27-2005, 05:20 PM
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[QUOTE=amt7565]So....
I don't like the seats on the Sports package of the 2005 330i. So what options do I have if I have to replace them with the other seats which come with the standard models? Any costs with that?
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you could buy the seats you want and fit them...and try to sell your current seats. that is probably pricy though. the other option which some people have had success with is to swap with someone who wants your seats...good luck!
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:23 PM
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I am sure that there are several people here who would be prepared to swap their standard seats for yours.

As for performance tires, which come fitted on the sports package models:

Pro:
Outstanding grip, therefore optimum braking and cornering.
Look great, as they tend to be a larger wheel and tire diameter


Con:
Lower profile, more susceptible to wheel damage caused by our third-rate, pot-hole strewn roads.
Wider tread, susceptible to tram-lining, again due to our third-rate, rutted roads.

As for noise, the OEM tires are usually pretty good.
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Thanks guys-
If I get the 330i with the sports package, I would definitely want to swap the seats.

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Old 04-27-2005, 07:57 PM
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One more question-
If I do swap my seats, will it effect my warrantly?

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Old 04-28-2005, 04:20 AM
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Let's not forget, re: the SP tires: If you have to deal with any winter weather, you *will* have to buyand install a set of snow tires. The summer tires are next to useless if you have to drive in snowy conditions.
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Let's not forget, re: the SP tires: If you have to deal with any winter weather, you *will* have to buyand install a set of snow tires. The summer tires are next to useless if you have to drive in snowy conditions.
But let's say I moved from Chicago to Dallas recently. It snows about 1 day every year in Dallas. So I should be OK with the SP tires?
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But let's say I moved from Chicago to Dallas recently. It snows about 1 day every year in Dallas. So I should be OK with the SP tires?
You should be OK.

I lived in Oklahoma City for a couple of years with my BMW and it had those horrid OEM ContiSports mounted. I did OK in the occasional snow and ice. There was never enough to justify snow tires, or even all seasons really.
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Old 04-29-2005, 04:45 AM
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I think that Nate has it right. You should be okay in Dallas - just don't take any northerly-directed wintertime long distance trips without checking in with AccuWeather(tm) first!
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You should be OK.

I lived in Oklahoma City for a couple of years with my BMW and it had those horrid OEM ContiSports mounted. I did OK in the occasional snow and ice. There was never enough to justify snow tires, or even all seasons really.

I agree you should be okay, from my experience the biggest weather problems (besides hail storms) in the Dallas area is ice storms and heavy rains, a performance tire with good rain weather traction would be a good choice for a tire. And during the occasional ice storm don't drive the BMW.
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One more question-
If I do swap my seats, will it effect my warrantly?
Yes, it would -- at least in theory. Anything that you add to the car, in this case seats, would not normally be warranted by BMW. The reality, however, is that if you removed a set of BMW sport seats and installed a set of BMW standard seats, there would be little evidence that the seats were not the originals.

On a sedan, one might notice a sport steering wheel or other equipment of a sport-equipped car, then wonder why not sport seats, but I think the discrepancy would likely go unnoticed.
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Yes, it would -- at least in theory. Anything that you add to the car, in this case seats, would not normally be warranted by BMW. The reality, however, is that if you removed a set of BMW sport seats and installed a set of BMW standard seats, there would be little evidence that the seats were not the originals.

On a sedan, one might notice a sport steering wheel or other equipment of a sport-equipped car, then wonder why not sport seats, but I think the discrepancy would likely go unnoticed.
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But let's say that they do notice the difference. Now if I have a problem not related to the seats, say the Engine, then would the warranty still be void as well? Or the warranty won't apply to the seats only?

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What color is your interior? I have the standard seats but have been pondering how to get sport seats...
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Thank you!
But let's say that they do notice the difference. Now if I have a problem not related to the seats, say the Engine, then would the warranty still be void as well? Or the warranty won't apply to the seats only?

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Swaping out the seats will not void any warranty work on the engine. From the way it was explained here and other places I have read up on this issue, the only way a warranty claim can be denied is if the mod led to the failure. So...in you case if you started to have air bag problems that were trouble shot back to the wiring harness and the pressure mat in the seat...they might deny the claim. However if say a cooling fan or window regulator blew, they would still have to replace the parts.
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...the only way a warranty claim can be denied is if the mod led to the failure.
Right. I imagine it's POSSIBLE you could get into a hassle based on an (invalid) assumption that the change led to the problem.

Imagine, for example, that you swap seats with somebody who takes delivery of their car the very same day you get yours. You drive off the lot and swap seats. A week later, you notice that the some seat stitching is coming undone -- clearly a manufacturing defect. The dealership denies your warranty claim when they notice the non-sport seats. I think you'd win that fight, although it's certainly a pain to have to fight at all.

On the other hand, you take delivery and swap seats with somebody with a 2002 330i. Two years later, you return to the dealer and gripe about the poor durability of BMW leather, which is showing marked wear on the bolsters after only "two years." The dealer replaces the seat covers under warranty.

Edit: Come to think of it, many/most parts are labeled with their date of manufacture, so if you did try to pull a fast one on the dealer in this way, you could very well be caught.

Both extreme cases. Given that no one is likely to notice in the first place, and the fairly low possibility of seat problems, I'd be very comfortable swapping with somebody.
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I agree you should be okay, from my experience the biggest weather problems (besides hail storms) in the Dallas area is ice storms and heavy rains, a performance tire with good rain weather traction would be a good choice for a tire. And during the occasional ice storm don't drive the BMW.
I'm out here in Austin. When we have the occasional icestorm, you dont' have to worry because traffic will be standing still on the highways. I'd be more worried about hail hitting your bimmer, then it's performance on the ice on the road.
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Thanks everyone for your valuable advise.
I will never try to pull any fast ones with any dealers. I will be straight as possible if any issues should arise.

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