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Old 05-26-2005, 04:44 AM
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E90 No Lettering?

I was wondering how the car will look without lettering and here is someone else's car
without the lettering. What do you guys think? Can we opt for no lettering in US?

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Old 05-26-2005, 05:36 AM
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I like the de-badged look. It's easy to do. If you don't like it, go to the dealer and buy another badge and put it on (when I de-badge, I usually wind up ruining the badge). In the past, as I recall, there have been "badge delete" options on some BMWs but good luck finding a dealer who will know what code that is or is willing to take the time (might take five full minutes) to look the code up.
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Old 05-26-2005, 06:00 AM
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The badges come off really easy. I wouldn't mess with having the dealer do it for you.

A hair dryer, some dental floss, and something to get the remaining adhesive off the paint and you are in buisness
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Old 05-26-2005, 06:41 AM
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I ordered without. Not sure what the code is, but it is by no means a secret to dealers.

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Old 05-26-2005, 09:33 AM
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Can't speak for Europe/U.K./Canada, but in the U.S. I gotta say, every time I see a de-badged strudel wagon here in L.A. I think to myself: "there goes [most likely] some poser who bought the least expensive, small engine variant he could and is trying to represent that he just 'might' have the V12".

Mind you, the "poser" part isn't in buying the smaller-engined car [nothing wrong with that], its in trying to front that you have something that you don't.

And before anyone starts, I think that if we are honest with ourselves we know the reality is that most [not all] de-badged BMWs, Mercs, and Audis [in the States anyway] are done so for this reason.

Asked another way, how many people out there [here, there, everywhere] are having their new e90 330i's de-badged? Q.E.D.

Now, if someone is having it done for their own personal aesthetic reasons then cheers, and no harm no foul because they won't care what anyone else’s opinion on the matter is anyway. Those who get really defensive about it...watch out [poser].

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Old 05-26-2005, 09:44 AM
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That's actually the reason I would debagde a 330 or M3....so people would automatically assume it's a 325. That's just me, though.
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:46 AM
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For now, the black trim represents the 325 while the chrome trim is found on the 330. Also, bigger brake rotors are found on the 330...so posers cannot escape the wrath of the well trained eye!

I say this with no disrespect to Blax, as I do think the car looks cleaner without the badges but I also feel that some remove the badges to misrepresent their rides.
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Old 05-26-2005, 10:00 AM
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I ordered without. Not sure what the code is, but it is by no means a secret to dealers.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97694
The code in Holland is 0320.
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Old 05-26-2005, 10:07 AM
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Can't speak for Europe/U.K./Canada, but in the U.S. I gotta say, every time I see a de-badged strudel wagon here in L.A. I think to myself: "there goes [most likely] some poser who bought the least expensive, small engine variant he could and is trying to represent that he just 'might' have the V12".
Same in the UK. A debadged 3 series bimmer is a 318 (do they still make 316's?) with 99.9% certainty.
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:24 PM
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Can't speak for Europe/U.K./Canada, but in the U.S. I gotta say, every time I see a de-badged strudel wagon here in L.A. I think to myself: "there goes [most likely] some poser who bought the least expensive, small engine variant he could and is trying to represent that he just 'might' have the V12".

Mind you, the "poser" part isn't in buying the smaller-engined car [nothing wrong with that], its in trying to front that you have something that you don't.

And before anyone starts, I think that if we are honest with ourselves we know the reality is that most [not all] de-badged BMWs, Mercs, and Audis [in the States anyway] are done so for this reason.

Asked another way, how many people out there [here, there, everywhere] are having their new e90 330i's de-badged? Q.E.D.

Now, if someone is having it done for their own personal aesthetic reasons then cheers, and no harm no foul because they won't care what anyone else’s opinion on the matter is anyway. Those who get really defensive about it...watch out [poser].
I always go debaged. And I usually have the biggest motor available (apart from an M, but thats easy to tell).

But then I´m German, my guess is over here the big displacement cars are actually MORE often debagded that the small ones. Something about not stirring up envy.
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:35 PM
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I think it looks better debadged. I'd also like to get rid of that silly sharkfin for the same reason. Just looks cleaner to me.

Don't ask to me remove my propeller beanie cap, though.
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:59 AM
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That's actually the reason I would debagde a 330 or M3....so people would automatically assume it's a 325. That's just me, though.

Noone is going to think a 325 is a M3 without badging maybe a 330.
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Old 05-27-2005, 07:09 AM
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For now, the black trim represents the 325 while the chrome trim is found on the 330. Also, bigger brake rotors are found on the 330...so posers cannot escape the wrath of the well trained eye!

I say this with no disrespect to Blax, as I do think the car looks cleaner without the badges but I also feel that some remove the badges to misrepresent their rides.

No disrespect taken. So for the record, I really don't care if people think I have a 325i or a 330i. For me I get the slower one simply because I am more likely to keep my license that way. I drive like a German on American roads...the less power the more I save on legal fees.

I think it's plainly obvious from the wheels etc. that it's a 325i if you know about the cars, and if you don't know the cars then you really don't care which engine it is. Do I think someone who has an E320 Mercedes is any less of a person than someone who got an E420? Of course not. I think if someone gets the 330i because they think it will project a better image than the 325i (with the ladies? ) then they are slightly dillusional.

Having said that, I may have mentioned this before (and you can see it from the locations of the posters above) debadging is much more popular outside the US, and I am from Australia and have lived in Europe and got in the habit there.

But really the reason I debadge is because I am the kind of person who hates stickers, ads, names etc on my car as well as on my clothing. I don't like being a free billboard for companies. You won't see me with a giant Nike logo on my chest and I would seriously consider taking off the BMW logos if I could. I also made sure that my dealer did not put his decals on my car (which it seems is an even more unusual request than debadging). I left a dealer who would not let me buy my last car without a decal, and am still trying to get the glue off.
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Old 05-27-2005, 07:18 AM
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Writing this reminded me of a story the dealer told me when I was ordering the debadge option.

He had a customer with a black 530i. The customer liked the car but one day when he was in the dealership for a service they had a new 545i in the same colors as his car. He fell in love with the 545i, but knew that his wife would never let him upgrade.

So he quietly bought the car and the dealer took off the 545i badge and put on a 530i badge so the wife would not find out. The ruse worked for months until one day in the fall the wife asked why the steering wheel was suddenly heated (an option which was not on the 530i).

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When I was in vancouver a few years ago I estimated that at least half the BMWs I saw were debadged.

Even spotted a couple of M3s that were debadged.

I figured it was a regional thing or an Asian thing as a majority of the BMWs I saw were driven by Asians.
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Old 05-27-2005, 07:43 AM
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I ordered the 330i but prefer the clean look of a debadged car. Anyone know what the code would be for a US bound vehicle? My car is "scheduled for production" so I guess I'd have to act fairly quickly to specify this...
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Noone is going to think a 325 is a M3 without badging maybe a 330.
I think either you misread my statement or I misread yours. I would debadge a 330 so that people would think it was the slower 325 and understate it. Same for the M3. Of course, anybody that would care would be able to tell an M3 isn't a 325 anyways, so that one probably wouldn't work.
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Old 05-29-2005, 09:58 PM
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I ordered the 330i but prefer the clean look of a debadged car. Anyone know what the code would be for a US bound vehicle? My car is "scheduled for production" so I guess I'd have to act fairly quickly to specify this...
Not sure what the code is, but your dealer will know. Even if you are too late, don't fret. There are threads on this forum describing how to easily take it off using dental floss.

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Old 05-30-2005, 08:52 AM
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I have not debadged my E46 because it is a 325xi, but if I buy a 325xi (E90) I will debadge because I think it is wrong to misbadge a vehicle. The fact that the E90 is a 3 litter should have caused BMW to change the badging here in the U.S.
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:02 PM
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I have not debadged my E46 because it is a 325xi, but if I buy a 325xi (E90) I will debadge because I think it is wrong to misbadge a vehicle. The fact that the E90 is a 3 litter should have caused BMW to change the badging here in the U.S.
BMW has 'misbadged', for marketing purposes, many, many vehicles in the past.

For the e90, we get a neutered 3.0L for the 325i while the Europeans get a neutered 2.5L for the 323i.

In Europe 70% or so of the cars I saw, that used alphanumeric designations and even those that didn't, were debadged. It really appears to be a regional thing.
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I have a debadged 325i and you can call me whatever you want. I have a BMW and I debadged because I got tired of cleaning in between the numbers. I would debadge a 330, M3, 5, 6, or 7 series. I like the way it looks. I do agree that some try to fake a higher powered car, or in some cases, a different brand. The Honda badged as a BMW comes to mind. Anyway, I did it for the look. I also believe that it isn't about the HP, but the balls to apply the HP you have. I think BMW makes some of the best cars on the planet. I bought mine after test driving 15 other cars. It beat them all hands down. This includes a Mercedes 230, 320, and a 350Z. I can say after almost two years of ownership that you would be hard pressed to break my loyalty to the brand.
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I was wondering how the car will look without lettering and here is someone else's car
without the lettering. What do you guys think? Can we opt for no lettering in US?

Is that an Accord?
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Same in the UK. A debadged 3 series bimmer is a 318 (do they still make 316's?) with 99.9% certainty.
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Same in the UK. A debadged 3 series bimmer is a 318 (do they still make 316's?) with 99.9% certainty.
Yes - and a 318d. Around 2/3 of the 3ers sold in the UK are 316i/318i/318i/320d, and BMW GB sells a very popular version of each which does not come with a badge on the back at all. Luckily, most buyers have sufficient strength of character not to order a badge for the back just in case some mealy-mouthed commentator passes public judgment
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I would debadge a 330 so that people would think it was the slower 325 and understate it. Same for the M3. Of course, anybody that would care would be able to tell an M3 isn't a 325 anyways, so that one probably wouldn't work.
Our E46 330 and my E39 540 were both debadged long before I bought (and promptly debadged) our 3.0 X5.

People learn soon enough that you're running an 8 cyl instead of a 6 in the E39. As for the 330, it is so different from the 325- bumpers, mirrors, chrome trim, and painted strip on bumper, muffler, etc, etc.. Anyone who knows what to look for will see pretty easily.

The X just looks better without all that chrome on the side and the HUGE X badge on the rear.
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