325 vs lincoln zephyr

looks like the zephyr will have more interior amenities and space for less $. probably won't have the handling but who races their 325 anyway.

Huh!?

Um, what kind of response were you looking for on A BMW SITE?

Damn that never occurred to me. I wonder if I can cancel my Euro Delivery and get a zephyr instead? With all the money I save, I could get some sweet mag wheels and those cool purple neon lights underneath.

The hell is a Zephyr? I think of myself as a fairly astute car fan, but I've never heard of this thing.

I've been browsing this board unregistered for quite some time, but this post forced me to register just so I could ask a question. WTF! How could you compare a Ford to a BMW?

Originally Posted by Andm99

The hell is a Zephyr? I think of myself as a fairly astute car fan, but I've never heard of this thing.

http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-200...oln-Zephyr.htm

i've seen bmw compared to infinitis lexus'

Originally Posted by robey1

i've seen bmw compared to infinitis lexus'

You can compare a BMW to anything you like.

Whats your point?

They still make Lincolns?

Hmm. It's front wheel drive.

That pretty much automatically means it's a piece of ****.

they make a 280hp rwd that can take either of your 325s

Originally Posted by robey1

they make a 280hp rwd that can take either of your 325s

yeah, try buying a lincoln with a manual. I'm aware that they made the LS with one, but there sure as hell aren't many.

Originally Posted by Nick325xiT 5spd

yeah, try buying a lincoln with a manual. I'm aware that they made the LS with one, but there sure as hell aren't many.

They only made the V6s with a manual option. A buddy of mine had one and liked it well enough, although he mentioned that the interior was pretty low-rent, even by the standards of the day (2001, IIRC). He now drives a 330Cic and I can say he's never looked back.

Originally Posted by robey1

looks like the zephyr will have more interior amenities and space for less $. probably won't have the handling but who races their 325 anyway.

If the Lincoln actually looked like the pictures on the serious wheels website posted above, yeah maybe it would be worth it...but come on...they were just some concept pictures...in reality it looks more like the new Ford Five-Hundred

http://www.lincoln.com/vehicles/newv...s_exterior.asp

WTF is that guy talking about?

it is built off the mazda 3 not the five hundred.

Originally Posted by robey1

it is built off the mazda 3 not the five hundred.

It is off of the mazda 6 platform (as is the new ford midsize car-ford fusion, I think that is the new name).

The mazda 3 platform encompasses the European focus, mazda3, and volvo s40/v50.

The 500 is off of the volvo s80 platform.

Anyways, I can see why people would compare the two, but they are very, very different. Despite the stigma of lincoln being an old person's car, younger (like maybe 40s or late 30s) will definitely buy this car. It is a good handling, reasonably reliable car with an automatic, which is as much as most people want. With the crazy discounting and rebates, this should come in pretty cheap and give some comptetition to the camry, malibu, and accord...as the mazda 6 is currently attempting to do. It is much better to drive than any of the aforementioned vehicles, with malibu coming closest.

RWD vs FWD (or haldex) is tottally different ballgame. They are basically aiming for totally different markets as well. The OP stated that if they wanted features, etc they'd be better off with the Zephyr. Anyone who wants those gadgets, FWD, auto, reliability, nice interior (and a vibrating driveshaft ) is better off with an acura TL (or even an TSX).

As with most recent Fords, it's a big zero in the styling department. Get a MazdaSpeed6 if you want some fun with the same plaform, but in the end, it just doesn't have the edge and sophistication of a BMW.

Originally Posted by ObD

Bingo ObD, that's what I was picturing. I thought it was a post mocking the recent "3 series or keep my TransAm" thread. Turns out it was serious and Ford is releasing a new Zephyr.

I hardly think this is a question worth asking since a production version of this car doesn't even EXIST yet, let alone there being people on this board who have driven it or even seen it in person to offer a qualified opinion on it.

General statements such as FWD sucks still apply but I mean really, shouldn't you wait until the car exists in some form before you compare? I wouldn't take any automakers promises seriously until I saw the car in person and drove it. That includes BMW as well, they didn't get my order for the E90 until I drove it, let alone taking Ford's word on whatever promises they're making for the Zephyr's performance.

Originally Posted by robey1

looks like the zephyr will have more interior amenities and space for less $. probably won't have the handling but who races their 325 anyway.

You have the wrong site, you are looking for www.e46fanatics.com, just down the hall.

Thanks for your time...

trolling for a response?

Originally Posted by ObD

thats the car i had in mind also.