Build your Own F30 328i and 335i on BMWUSA.com

by Tim Jones on January 13, 2012, 10:41 am
Build your own 2012 F30 328i or 335i on BMWUSA.com

The online configurator for the 2012 F30 328i and 335i is live on BMWUSA.com now With number of packages and options that have dependencies on other options and packages having a tool to help figure out the final configuration is a huge help. Build your own F30 and post up what you built and the total MSRP. Who can get the highest MSRP?

Build your own 328i -> http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...2CNORAp9Ch3GE=

Build your own 335i -> http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...UaPSjVGHDBzkw=


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101 responses to Build your Own F30 328i and 335i on BMWUSA.com

sunxnus commented:
January 13, 2012, 10:54 am

Nice!
SoonerJohn commented:
January 13, 2012, 10:59 am

Can't get it to come up now for the 335i. Not surprising because when I was using it a few minutes ago there were quite a few things not working correctly...
pix335i commented:
January 13, 2012, 11:02 am

There are a couple glitches in there still. I was unable to select the brushed aluminum trim in the sports line for a 328i.

With how complicated it is to configure the new 3 series, I am sure the programmers at BMW are getting a workout.
SoonerJohn commented:
January 13, 2012, 11:03 am

Update to earlier post - I can't even get http://www.bmwusa.com to come up at all now - must be overloaded with people trying to configure F30's
jzcrna commented:
January 13, 2012, 11:22 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoonerJohn View Post
Update to earlier post - I can't even get http://www.bmwusa.com to come up at all now - must be overloaded with people trying to configure F30's
Go to build your own and it lists two of each 3 series. the top one is 2012 the bottom one is 2011
SoonerJohn commented:
January 13, 2012, 11:30 am

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Originally Posted by jzcrna View Post
Go to build your own and it lists two of each 3 series. the top one is 2012 the bottom one is 2011
I knew how to get to it - what I was saying was that the entire BMW NA website wouldn't respond - I couldn't even get the home page to load. But it's working again now!
sunxnus commented:
January 13, 2012, 11:37 am

They just took the configurator down!
_Vida_ commented:
January 13, 2012, 11:43 am

Finally! It doesn't work for me either but I'm sure it will be running smoothly by the end of today or tomorrow.
SuperTerp commented:
January 13, 2012, 11:49 am

Tim you made my day brother


I still get 2011
justinnum1 commented:
January 13, 2012, 11:55 am

they took it down
SuperTerp commented:
January 13, 2012, 11:56 am

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Originally Posted by justinnum1 View Post
they took it down
Yeah, I saw the message ... The just don't want me to have a happy Friday.
pix335i commented:
January 13, 2012, 12:16 pm

Looks like they are working on it...you can get to a page now. I think they have bigger plans on helping you through the process.

Obviously we caught them a bit early
SuperTerp commented:
January 13, 2012, 12:22 pm

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Originally Posted by pix335i View Post
Looks like they are working on it...you can get to a page now. I think they have bigger plans on helping you through the process.

Obviously we caught them a bit early
Yeah I saw looks like they're trying to get it up


Just built my 335i with everything came out to only 57k then I remember it doesn't include xdrive
justinnum1 commented:
January 13, 2012, 1:13 pm

they still working on it, looks almost there but you cant change the color or see packages or options.
pix335i commented:
January 13, 2012, 1:16 pm

I'm happy to see that they are making the process a bit more intuitive for a person not familiar with the "lines" ... should help people out a lot!
SuperTerp commented:
January 13, 2012, 1:18 pm

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Originally Posted by pix335i View Post
I'm happy to see that they are making the process a bit more intuitive for a person not familiar with the "lines" ... should help people out a lot!
Still a bit awkward because if you select something that only comes with one "line" it will muck everything else up. I could see it being annoying to some people.
pix335i commented:
January 13, 2012, 1:20 pm

Like I said somewhere else, I am more curious to see how they explain all this and sell it to someone who comes into a showroom without a clue as to how the whole thing works. It is putting a lot more on the dealerships to educate the potential buyer.
samualcc commented:
January 13, 2012, 1:23 pm

None Nav screen still makes me sad
SuperTerp commented:
January 13, 2012, 1:24 pm

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Originally Posted by pix335i View Post
It is putting a lot more on the dealerships to educate the potential buyer.
I agree for most people it's already a frustrating and long process, now you could have a person want paddle shifters and wood trim but you can't have that. (I wanted that )

pix335i commented:
January 13, 2012, 1:41 pm

Or imagine most people's surprise when they click on $900 Xenon headlights with the surprise prompt telling them that they need to add the $3,600 premium package....I imagine there are going to be some sales staff who find it difficult to drop that news on a potential customer :P
LS2 MN6 commented:
January 13, 2012, 1:43 pm

Looks like I need to wrap my brain around the fact that what I want will cost $50k+, oh well time to start saving!
justinnum1 commented:
January 13, 2012, 1:46 pm

As i figured and knew, you dont need the fold down seats to get leather. My dealer is going to have a fun time dealing with me.
SuperTerp commented:
January 13, 2012, 1:48 pm

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Originally Posted by pix335i View Post
Or imagine most people's surprise when they click on $900 Xenon headlights with the surprise prompt telling them that they need to add the $3,600 premium package....I imagine there are going to be some sales staff who find it difficult to drop that news on a potential customer :P
lol 900 seems like a stretech for some people on lights let alone another 3600
pix335i commented:
January 13, 2012, 1:48 pm

That sucks that you had to end up ordering something you didn't want. I personally love the split seats and use them all the time.

Hopefully they do something to make it up to you!
justinnum1 commented:
January 13, 2012, 1:54 pm

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Originally Posted by pix335i View Post
That sucks that you had to end up ordering something you didn't want. I personally love the split seats and use them all the time.

Hopefully they do something to make it up to you!
The GM said he would"take care of me"...but thats just 500 less of bargaining room in my mind. The msrp is 42,220...im telling him to give it to me for 40,000 or im walking out.(wont really walk out but will if they make me pay more than 40,500)...i think they will take care of me tho, i have got over 10 cars from them.

There will probably be one or two times where i use them, i was just pissed that the dealers computer was messed up, i watched him trying to get the leather without getting the fold down seats and it wouldnt let him.
berlinguyinca commented:
January 13, 2012, 2:25 pm

No m-sport configuration available either

And the configuration is utterly confusing...
pix335i commented:
January 13, 2012, 2:27 pm

M-Sport is coming in the 2013 model year so it won't show up for a while yet.
tim330i commented:
January 13, 2012, 2:28 pm

Doesn't make sense for them to have the M Sport configuration available yet as it won't be for sale for another 6 months. It is confusing enough that they continue to show the car.

The configuration is confusing, at least the system helps you get all the required packages or options so you know what the car is really going to cost.

Tim
SoonerJohn commented:
January 13, 2012, 4:06 pm

It's a much nicer configurator than the old one! There is still at least one problem with it though - there is nowhere to select the "Adaptive M Suspension" even though I know it is an option available with the Sport Line.
jgrasty commented:
January 13, 2012, 4:22 pm

Still a few bugs in the system. I can't seem to configure the alternate wheels for the Modern Line. The 18" turbine wheels are there, but there doesn't seem to be a way to select the 19" option.
tim330i commented:
January 13, 2012, 4:22 pm

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Originally Posted by SoonerJohn View Post
It's a much nicer configurator than the old one! There is still at least one problem with it though - there is nowhere to select the "Adaptive M Suspension" even though I know it is an option available with the Sport Line.
Nice catch. Strange they don't have that up there, they'll probably figure that out and add it shortly.

Tim
johnc_22 commented:
January 13, 2012, 4:57 pm

It's hard to believe that a company as big as BMW can't hire developers who can get it at least close to working before rolling it out . . .

Oh, and the leather options for Sport suck. Black, red, gray. No natural-ish leather colors like Saddle or Beige.

And what's with the Modern configuration with black everything but dash and steering wheel - hideous!!
3ismagic# commented:
January 13, 2012, 5:12 pm

Some observations, some of which have been discussed elsewhere:

1) the lines create false sense of choice. There is actually much more limited color options/combos within the lines.
2) the configurator forces you to choose a line i.e. no free form customization is enabled right now
3) No option for M sport suspension
4) FU BMW for forcing the premium package just to get xenons and HUD to get Nav (i.e. the nice screen). I understand bundling related component options to make production more cost efficient but there is no way bundling xenons with premium is about reducing manufacturing costs. Pure extortion IMHO.
5) more limited exterior color palate

Obviously some of these are bugs with the website and some are actual problems (at least IMHO).
kriminal commented:
January 13, 2012, 5:18 pm

Is it just me or are there not many colors?
johnc_22 commented:
January 13, 2012, 5:36 pm

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Originally Posted by kriminal View Post
Is it just me or are there not many colors?
There are not many colors, and once you pick a "Line" the interior options are quite limited.

Want sport with beige leather? Buy an Audi.
justinnum1 commented:
January 13, 2012, 6:05 pm

If your more concerned about how the car looks, and what color combos.. instead of how it drives, then mb and adui are prob better choices


IM sure there is a combo that will work with everyone, silver/black if worse comes to worse
palermo22 commented:
January 13, 2012, 6:36 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by justinnum1 View Post
If your more concerned about how the car looks, and what color combos.. instead of how it drives, then mb and adui are prob better choices


IM sure there is a combo that will work with everyone, silver/black if worse comes to worse
After seeing this color on the manual cover that was just posted - I really love the combination of Mojave metallic with leather dakota saddle brown.
AzNMpower32 commented:
January 13, 2012, 7:33 pm

Yeesh, BMW's packaging in the US makes it more and more obvious that they're catering to dealer sales, not necessarily individual customisation. Xenons requiring Premium package? No thanks, I'll stick with another model.
brkf commented:
January 13, 2012, 7:41 pm

Man, I hope BMW fixes some of this nonsense for 2013. I can't believe a car with a 4 cylinder, sport, manual, CW and xenons is coming up to 45k. Just simply not worth it.
justinnum1 commented:
January 13, 2012, 7:51 pm

Got to pay to play.
tturedraider commented:
January 13, 2012, 7:53 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by AzNMpower32 View Post
Yeesh, BMW's packaging in the US makes it more and more obvious that they're catering to dealer sales, not necessarily individual customisation. Xenons requiring Premium package? No thanks, I'll stick with another model.
Just curious, do you plan to get leather or leatherette?
AzNMpower32 commented:
January 13, 2012, 8:50 pm

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Originally Posted by tturedraider View Post
Just curious, do you plan to get leather or leatherette?
No plans for anyone in our family to get the F30, but we'd just get leatherette.
LS2 MN6 commented:
January 13, 2012, 9:09 pm

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Originally Posted by blueguydotcom View Post
Man, I hope BMW fixes some of this nonsense for 2013. I can't believe a car with a 4 cylinder, sport, manual, CW and xenons is coming up to 45k. Just simply not worth it.
53k if you want all the goodies.
BlueMan commented:
January 13, 2012, 9:49 pm

It took me about 30 tries, but I got a 2012 335i up to $57,245
Sport line
every possible option - it took me forever to get it so I could pick everything without it reverting from Sport line and removing my sport automatic transmission. The main issue was that I really didn't want the red stitching on the seats - ended up realizing the only choice and I do mean ONLY choice that would result in 0 red in the interior was grey seats.
JustinTJ commented:
January 13, 2012, 10:27 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by justinnum1 View Post
If your more concerned about how the car looks, and what color combos.. instead of how it drives, then mb and adui are prob better choices


IM sure there is a combo that will work with everyone, silver/black if worse comes to worse
This is crap, only because it is regression from a prior business model. They are moving backwards with color options; people should be able to choose both aesthetics and performance.

We used to be able to. Probably still can with a special order form.
Cy3 commented:
January 13, 2012, 10:45 pm

What a disaster of option combos and pricing strategies. This is going to be as frustrating as trying to find a cheap airline ticket adjusting days, times of days, 1way vs RT, search engines, etc. etc. etc. I feel for anyone in the market for one of these in the next year or so.
7or8 commented:
January 13, 2012, 11:14 pm

What's really annoying is that introducing lines is a way to cut expense for bmw because bundling makes the manufacturing process less expensive then customization. So the question is why is this significantly more expensive than before. I can understand a little, because of more technology being available... but to make the bundles force you, by design, into a way more expensive car, and a car that may not have the color/trim combinations you actually want, is just brutality on their part.

Bmw has made buying a new car exactly like buying a CPO....you're probably gonna just have to settle for getting some of what you want and some of what you don't. At the price that the 328 is going for I don't see how bmw would be loosing money by allowing the same customization as before. Who would of thought that buying a brand new bimmer would feel almost exactly like CPO hunting. At least with a CPO you have the hope of maybe finding exactly what you want. With this setup, some on this board have no hope but of waiting to see if bmw changes options around next year and a bundle, or color/trim combination just happens to come about that they really want. Sigh..
johnc_22 commented:
January 13, 2012, 11:46 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by justinnum1 View Post
If your more concerned about how the car looks, and what color combos.. instead of how it drives, then mb and adui are prob better choices


IM sure there is a combo that will work with everyone, silver/black if worse comes to worse
I have a silver/black car - gets really old after a few years.

Also, in fact, I do like picking a car that looks the way I like it. This used to be possible with the 3 Series.
brkf commented:
January 14, 2012, 2:10 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnc_22 View Post
I have a silver/black car - gets really old after a few years.

Also, in fact, I do like picking a car that looks the way I like it. This used to be possible with the 3 Series.
Amen. also had a 335i that was silver and black. I swore after that I wanted red/blue/etc... something that would pop. The color palette for the F30 is insanely bland. Baffling decisions. I was talking with my wife tonight about how limited the F30 is for 2012 and she just shrugged, "So buy a CPO M3." Maybe that's the answer.
gcreese commented:
January 14, 2012, 4:01 am

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Originally Posted by blueguydotcom View Post
Amen. also had a 335i that was silver and black. I swore after that I wanted red/blue/etc... something that would pop. The color palette for the F30 is insanely bland. Baffling decisions. I was talking with my wife tonight about how limited the F30 is for 2012 and she just shrugged, "So buy a CPO M3." Maybe that's the answer.
I like the way your wife thinks.
Aeromac commented:
January 14, 2012, 7:38 am

Much as I love my 04 325i......a 12 335 would be awesome
phantom701 commented:
January 14, 2012, 9:46 am

The new 335i is really expensive ($53k) with the config that I want. And just a few more thousand will get you a 535i. Yikes...
justinnum1 commented:
January 14, 2012, 10:23 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom701 View Post
The new 335i is really expensive ($53k) with the config that I want. And just a few more thousand will get you a 535i. Yikes...
2 totally different cars
brkf commented:
January 14, 2012, 11:46 am

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Originally Posted by justinnum1 View Post
2 totally different cars
Yet priced as if they're the same. BMW's going have to make some adjustments bu 2013/14. Their choices for 12 are plain wrong.
jplev commented:
January 14, 2012, 1:08 pm

If you order one of the lines (they all include leather), why is the premium package still full price? Aren't you paying for leather twice that way? The premium package, whether on a base version or one with the lines, is $3,600.

Also, if you include the Luxury Line in your order and then hover your mouse over that choice in the summary, it shows the premium package as included there (see included screen shot). I'm assuming that is just a flat out error.
raleedy commented:
January 14, 2012, 1:14 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by justinnum1 View Post
2 totally different cars
Really?
samualcc commented:
January 14, 2012, 6:50 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by jplev View Post
If you order one of the lines (they all include leather), why is the premium package still full price? Aren't you paying for leather twice that way? The premium package, whether on a base version or one with the lines, is $3,600.

Also, if you include the Luxury Line in your order and then hover your mouse over that choice in the summary, it shows the premium package as included there (see included screen shot). I'm assuming that is just a flat out error.
The lines do not include leather. You still have to pay for it. The lines, outside of the sport line, are a $2100 surcharge for a few interior bits and exteriors changes.
jplev commented:
January 14, 2012, 7:06 pm

Well then at the least, the descriptions are misleading as it says that for $2,100 (Modern or Luxury), premium package is one of the included items as well as the corresponding leather seats for that particular line.

Looking at this another way, if you start with the base version and add premium, what do you really get for the extra $2,100 if you go to Luxury or Modern? You get the incremental value of:
  • upgraded wheels of 17" to 18" and corresponding tires
  • upgrade to a sports steering wheel (you had a multifunction steering wheel regardless, so how much more could this really cost?)
  • same leather seats as with the premium package - just with different color thread and dye (is that really an extra cost - had to use thread and dye regardless?)
  • different trim and headliner color (again, how much more is this versus what the base has?)
The upgraded wheels would be the biggest cost (which BTW I haven't seen on the BMW configurator as an option with the base yet), but that is still a lot of extra $$ for what you get IMO (not saying I am dead set against paying the premium for one of these lines if/when the day comes, but it doesn't seem like a great value). My lease isn't up until end of 2013, so perhaps things will change by then (need xDrive anyway).
16n69 commented:
January 14, 2012, 7:58 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnc_22 View Post
It's hard to believe that a company as big as BMW can't hire developers who can get it at least close to working before rolling it out . . .

Oh, and the leather options for Sport suck. Black, red, gray. No natural-ish leather colors like Saddle or Beige.

And what's with the Modern configuration with black everything but dash and steering wheel - hideous!!
I agree with you on pts. 1 & 2...but I kinda like the Modern line interior and wish they made it available for the sport line.

Yeah, c'mon BMW...do you have any programers on staff?
Want me to design your next web site and fix the one you have now?
bayoucity commented:
January 14, 2012, 9:46 pm

I give up on this build tool. I'll rather get an 1M while I still can.
Michael Schott commented:
January 14, 2012, 9:59 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom701 View Post
The new 335i is really expensive ($53k) with the config that I want. And just a few more thousand will get you a 535i. Yikes...
Will the 535i be as well equipped as the loaded 335? I pretty much doubt it.
justinnum1 commented:
January 14, 2012, 10:31 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Schott View Post
Will the 535i be as well equipped as the loaded 335? I pretty much doubt it.
Of course not. 535 with similar equipment would be 60K
Inline Sixer commented:
January 14, 2012, 11:40 pm

The press release on these "lines" cite flexibility and better customization. In reality, they really are restrictive and more a supply chain cost cutting measure. For instance, you can't certain types of leather or trim in some lines.

I'm with other posters here with the observation of prices having gone up -- the trick is that everything seems bundled together in these "packages".
westwest888 commented:
January 15, 2012, 5:46 am

I like it, but pricey. Two fewer cylinders and about $5k more. The options bundling is crazy. All or nothing.
soledoc commented:
January 15, 2012, 8:31 am

This sucks!! As I suspected I can't get cold weather package with leatherette or xenon with leatherette (as I have on my current 328i) with the sport line.
What gives? What does xenon or cold weather have to do with leather. I don't need or want leather. I'd prefer a nice cloth or alcantara (which we won't get on the m sport either).
Nice guys...take away our options and pigeon hole us into getting what you want us to get. May drive me away from bmw.

Same thing if I build it with those specs on a base model 328. Crap!!! It also makes me get the premium package which I don't want. I can afford it but I don't like being told what I have to get.
soledoc commented:
January 15, 2012, 8:44 am

I'm going to look at an Audi A4 right now....this really pisses me off!
SuperTerp commented:
January 15, 2012, 9:11 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3ismagic# View Post
2) the configurator forces you to choose a line i.e. no free form customization is enabled right now
If when you click now after the 3 lines their should be a 4th car and thats the one with zero lines granted if you select something thats in a line it immediately transitions you to the lined car.
justinnum1 commented:
January 15, 2012, 10:47 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by soledoc View Post
I'm going to look at an Audi A4 right now....this really pisses me off!
lmfao, have fun. regular a4 is weak as ****, and heavy. But if your more into looks and aesthetics, then maybe audi is the car for you.
brkf commented:
January 15, 2012, 11:08 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by justinnum1 View Post
lmfao, have fun. regular a4 is weak as ****, and heavy. But if your more into looks and aesthetics, then maybe audi is the car for you.


You keep chiding people for wanting options. Do you work for BMW? It doesn't make sense for a customer to mock others for wanting the same options they've had on 3 series cars for decades. People are upset that the custom sport sedans they could build before are gone.

I want to know who we contact at bmw to make our voices heard. This is about a giant break from what BMW has done in the past. Many of us have supported this brand for a longtime with many purchases and we've been flipped off by the very brand we evangelized as listening to its buyers. The brand is telling longtime customers that choice isn't important.
justinnum1 commented:
January 15, 2012, 11:29 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by blueguydotcom View Post
You keep chiding people for wanting options. Do you work for BMW? It doesn't make sense for a customer to mock others for wanting the same options they've had on 3 series cars for decades. People are upset that the custom sport sedans they could build before are gone.

I want to know who we contact at bmw to make our voices heard. This is about a giant break from what BMW has done in the past. Many of us have supported this brand for a longtime with many purchases and we've been flipped off by the very brand we evangelized as listening to its buyers. The brand is telling longtime customers that choice isn't important.
Cool story bro. I find it funny that because someone cant get there color, they wouldn't get the car. The limited options aren't great, but there is something there for everyone.

Of course i would like xenons as a standalone option, but its not a deal breaker for me. As it shouldn't be for anyone else who is getting there bmw for how it drives.

Anyone whoose priority is color, or interior combinations, these new 3series probably wont be the right car for them. imo
bayoucity commented:
January 15, 2012, 11:43 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by westwest888 View Post
I like it, but pricey. Two fewer cylinders and about $5k more. The options bundling is crazy. All or nothing.
West,

You aren't coming back, are you? BMW has finally caught up with VAG by bundling options similar to Premium, Premium +, & Prestige.

I missed the old build tool for E9_ as much as I miss those entry level NA I6.
brkf commented:
January 15, 2012, 12:12 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by justinnum1 View Post
Cool story bro. I find it funny that because someone cant get there color, they wouldn't get the car. The limited options aren't great, but there is something there for everyone.

Of course i would like xenons as a standalone option, but its not a deal breaker for me. As it shouldn't be for anyone else who is getting there bmw for how it drives.

Anyone whoose priority is color, or interior combinations, these new 3series probably wont be the right car for them. imo
You're still missing the point: we had options in the past. I'm betting you've not done ED. There's nothing quite like getting a car built specifically for you with the exact options you want. It was one more thing that set BMW apart. Unlike inferior brands like Infiniti and Lexus, BMW was not forcing us to get things we did not value. You slid into your car and everything was what you requested.

In an age of cookie cutter homes, southwest cattle cars, costco blandism, generic movies and insipid flaccid chain restaurants, BMW as a brand stood out for listening to the customer and providing them with something unique. That was remarkable and awesome. We had a brand that appeared to listen, most of the time, to customers. And they did so at a slightly premium price but not at the levels of Porsche or real luxury cars. They treated us as special for only a few k more than competitors. Those brands that treat customers with dignity are pretty much gone and those that provide service beyond the norm...well they really only exist when you pay extreme amounts (Lambo, Ferrari, etc). It seems BMW was already heading toward the banal one-customer-model of Lexus with the e90 but this it pushing BMW totally down the road to the unfriendly practices of unattractive Japanese and American brands.

Maybe this is something they are doing for 2012 as it will be such a small run for the year?one can only hope...

Still sent an email to BMW customer relations. If we all contact them it can't hurt. We need to voice our displeasure rather than sit by and just grumble on a message board.
bayoucity commented:
January 15, 2012, 12:23 pm

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Originally Posted by blueguydotcom View Post
...Still sent an email to BMW customer relations. If we all contact them it can't hurt. We need to voice our displeasure rather than sit by and just grumble on a message board.
Thank you.
johnc_22 commented:
January 15, 2012, 12:24 pm

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Originally Posted by soledoc View Post
I'm going to look at an Audi A4 right now....this really pisses me off!
I've already been building A4's and A4 Avants on Audi's site. I can load one with every option I'd want and be thousands less than the BMW. Of course I'd need to drive both to see what I really like but the Avant and forthcoming Allroad are attractive options.

I'm OK with bundling options but BMW is using the Lines and packages as a means of raising prices without looking like they're doing it - marketing sleight of hand.
johnc_22 commented:
January 15, 2012, 12:26 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by blueguydotcom View Post
You keep chiding people for wanting options. Do you work for BMW? It doesn't make sense for a customer to mock others for wanting the same options they've had on 3 series cars for decades. People are upset that the custom sport sedans they could build before are gone.ts buyers. The brand is telling longtime customers that choice isn't important.
He ordered the first day he could and anyone questioning the worth of BMW's new vehicles he derides. Overdosed on the BMW Kool Aid, methinks.
justinnum1 commented:
January 15, 2012, 12:54 pm

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Originally Posted by johnc_22 View Post
He ordered the first day he could and anyone questioning the worth of BMW's new vehicles he derides. Overdosed on the BMW Kool Aid, methinks.
lmfao Way to much whining on this forum, especially from E90 owners, which is understandable.

And after driving audi's, and mercedes, i laugh at those who thinks its any better over there just so they can get the color they want lol
mr_clueless commented:
January 15, 2012, 1:10 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3ismagic# View Post
2) the configurator forces you to choose a line i.e. no free form customization is enabled right now
It does not force that. You can build a car without any of the lines, but the only choices of interior color are beige or black regardless of whether you get the leather. Changing the color to something else forces addition of a "line".
justinnum1 commented:
January 15, 2012, 1:16 pm

This is something where customers got used to it and its changed. BMW still does things other manufactures have stopeed, like maitnence, and offering manual transmissions. They have to make a profit, and if bundling things together means they can keep making the great cars they do, i am fine with it. You cant have it all(unless $ is no concern)
16n69 commented:
January 15, 2012, 2:04 pm

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Originally Posted by blueguydotcom View Post
You keep chiding people for wanting options. Do you work for BMW? It doesn't make sense for a customer to mock others for wanting the same options they've had on 3 series cars for decades. People are upset that the custom sport sedans they could build before are gone.

I want to know who we contact at bmw to make our voices heard. This is about a giant break from what BMW has done in the past. Many of us have supported this brand for a longtime with many purchases and we've been flipped off by the very brand we evangelized as listening to its buyers. The brand is telling longtime customers that choice isn't important.
I'M with you +1k
BMW seems to HATE the U.S. market...the one that "feeds" them
They should take a page from Porsche's playbook ...GIVE THE CUSTOMER ANYTHING THEY WANT...give us colors & interiors and let us build our cars like we want!
What, do they want to become GM?
westwest888 commented:
January 15, 2012, 2:37 pm

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Originally Posted by bayoucity View Post
West,

You aren't coming back, are you? BMW has finally caught up with VAG by bundling options similar to Premium, Premium +, & Prestige.

I missed the old build tool for E9_ as much as I miss those entry level NA I6.
I'll need to drive it. I'm skeptical that the 6 speed manual can really ring out the 2.0T. The early reviews seem to indicate the 8 speed auto is a great match for that engine and makes it feel and go fast.

I'm more of a Porsche lurker. There's a new 911 and a new Boxster.

I don't think the 3 lines are quite the same as the cumulative lines of premium, premium +, prestige. For instance, a 335i would start at premium +. There's still a lot of nickel and diming on things like moonroof, xenons, sirius, heated seats and so on.

EDIT: another thing is the manual is a 0 cost downgrade, whereas we used to *save* $2500 for going that route.
mikepinkerton commented:
January 15, 2012, 2:43 pm

I noticed that the website doesn't allow you to choose wood trim on the 328 if you don't select a line, but that's an option in the print brochure. Which is correct?

As far as color, I love the way my bright blue '09 328 pops. I love driving it, but I also love looking at it. The current color choices don't have that same visceral feeling. I should enjoy both aspects given the amount I'll be paying. Just MHO.

-Mike
westwest888 commented:
January 15, 2012, 2:46 pm

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I like it, but pricey. Two fewer cylinders and about $5k more. The options bundling is crazy. All or nothing.
Hmm this is curious. For $2k more I can get the car I want in 335i trim ($46k vs $44k). I guess it's standard with xenons so you don't get roped into premium package.

Can't go there though because of the open differential and questionable reliability with BMW's N54/N55 near-recall situation.
16n69 commented:
January 15, 2012, 3:57 pm

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Originally Posted by soledoc View Post
This sucks!! As I suspected I can't get cold weather package with leatherette or xenon with leatherette (as I have on my current 328i) with the sport line.
What gives? What does xenon or cold weather have to do with leather. I don't need or want leather. I'd prefer a nice cloth or alcantara (which we won't get on the m sport either).
Nice guys...take away our options and pigeon hole us into getting what you want us to get. May drive me away from bmw.

Same thing if I build it with those specs on a base model 328. Crap!!! It also makes me get the premium package which I don't want. I can afford it but I don't like being told what I have to get.
I'm feeling what you say...BMW has gotten so restrictive towards the customer.
If the M3 is not exciting as far as colors & options, I'm gone.
sactoken commented:
January 15, 2012, 4:00 pm

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Originally Posted by mikepinkerton View Post
I noticed that the website doesn't allow you to choose wood trim on the 328 if you don't select a line, but that's an option in the print brochure. Which is correct?
Per the order guide, the only choice for the 328 is silver matte and the only choice for the 335 is the dark burl walnut. The brochure doesn't make this clear.

This sucks. On my past BMW's, I've gotten beige with walnut trim. Now the only way to do that on a 328 would be to get the wood pieces aftermarket. When I get my F30, if I go with a base 328 that's what I'll do. IMO, the beige with silver looks awful.
mikepinkerton commented:
January 15, 2012, 4:16 pm

Thanks sactoken. That coincides with what I see on the config website. These arbitrary restrictions are so weird compared to the flexibility in the last model.

-Mike
sekitori commented:
January 15, 2012, 4:43 pm

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Per the order guide, the only choice for the 328 is silver matte and the only choice for the 335 is the dark burl walnut. The brochure doesn't make this clear.
The same situation holds true for wheel selection on the base 328i. In the brochure, three wheels are offered--17" Style 393 (which would be standard), 18" Style 396, and 19" Style 401. Yet in the configurator, there is no option for wheel selection. Since the brochure clearly shows two choices of interior trim and three choices of wheels, it probably is correct. The configurator is still very new and it's been buggy. I would guess that sooner or later (hopefully sooner), it will reflect these options as well.
jplev commented:
January 15, 2012, 4:46 pm

According to the 8-page BMW spec sheet I downloaded, the 396 wheels are standard on 335i and the 401 are an option only for the 335i (i.e. the base 328i can only have the 393 wheels).
16n69 commented:
January 15, 2012, 5:02 pm

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Originally Posted by sekitori View Post
The same situation holds true for wheel selection on the base 328i. In the brochure, three wheels are offered--17" Style 393 (which would be standard), 18" Style 396, and 19" Style 401. Yet in the configurator, there is no option for wheel selection. Since the brochure clearly shows two choices of interior trim and three choices of wheels, it probably is correct. The configurator is still very new and it's been buggy. I would guess that sooner or later (hopefully sooner), it will reflect these options as well.
It is a DISGRACE that a co. like BMW cannot put up a finished website / config
soledoc commented:
January 15, 2012, 5:12 pm

Just stopped by the Audi dealership (all car dealerships are closed on Sundays in Indiana...just like our liquor stores). Styling is ok but I'll have to drive one. I'm sure it won't be like the new 328i but it may be fine for my needs. It's my daily driver and has to be a manual transmission. Not much choice these days from a european car maker...bmw or audi (maybe one MB). Used to be a volvo guy but no stick now in the S60 and it's fugly now.

I did ED on my current 328 and made it exactly like I wanted. That was only 3 years ago. I realize things change but that was a big reason I picked BMW. It was my first and I've enjoyed every day with it and have good memories of it in europe. i then bought an E39 '02 wagon and love love and will keep it for a while.

But my daily driver lease expires in 2 months and I need to decide. Still up in the air but for an extra $5K I don't see the BMW being worth it and me not getting really what I want.
justinnum1 commented:
January 15, 2012, 5:18 pm

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Originally Posted by soledoc View Post
Just stopped by the Audi dealership (all car dealerships are closed on Sundays in Indiana...just like our liquor stores). Styling is ok but I'll have to drive one. I'm sure it won't be like the new 328i but it may be fine for my needs. It's my daily driver and has to be a manual transmission. Not much choice these days from a european car maker...bmw or audi (maybe one MB). Used to be a volvo guy but no stick now in the S60 and it's fugly now.

I did ED on my current 328 and made it exactly like I wanted. That was only 3 years ago. I realize things change but that was a big reason I picked BMW. It was my first and I've enjoyed every day with it and have good memories of it in europe. i then bought an E39 '02 wagon and love love and will keep it for a while.

But my daily driver lease expires in 2 months and I need to decide. Still up in the air but for an extra $5K I don't see the BMW being worth it and me not getting really what I want.
I drove an a4 premium plus, quattro, maunal. It looks nice, the interior is nice(tho my e90 sport seats were better) It felt slow, and sluggish. And to much body for roll for me. But aesthetes wise, its right up there with bmw for sure, if not slightly ahead.
soledoc commented:
January 15, 2012, 5:41 pm

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Originally Posted by justinnum1 View Post
I drove an a4 premium plus, quattro, maunal. It looks nice, the interior is nice(tho my e90 sport seats were better) It felt slow, and sluggish. And to much body for roll for me. But aesthetes wise, its right up there with bmw for sure, if not slightly ahead.
Did that one have the sport package? That might make the difference in body roll. I know what you mean with that. I've been in Audis that do that. I'm not a 100% car guy that needs it to drive like a race car. I do like it to look nice and be somewhat unique and have some kick. I think the A4 like the one you drove with a sport package would be nice. Plus I wouldn't have to change out summer/winter tires which would save some $ too.
sekitori commented:
January 15, 2012, 5:41 pm

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Originally Posted by jplev View Post
According to the 8-page BMW spec sheet I downloaded, the 396 wheels are standard on 335i and the 401 are an option only for the 335i (i.e. the base 328i can only have the 393 wheels).
Thanks for letting me know. It's interesting to note that three wheel sizes (17", 18", and 19") are offered in the brochure for the "3 Series Sedan". There is no distinction made between the 328i and the 335i. Only when one looks at the spec sheet on the very last page (which many people never do) is it seen that the wheel dimension for the 328i is 17 X 7.5 and that of the 335i is 18 X 8.0.

The information from a brochure provided by a highly regarded and well respected company should be completely clear, yet it appears that these people apparently have no idea how to provide clear information. It looks as if both the brochure and the website are misleading. Unfortunately, when it comes to information provided by BMW, what you see is not always what you get.
sactoken commented:
January 15, 2012, 6:13 pm

The ordering guide is more thorough and accurate, and seems to show exactly what is and isn't available for each model and line choice, but you really have to analyze all the notes carefully (requires .../cannot be ordered with.../etc). I'm sure when we get the full-size brochure it'll also be very thorough. The international brochure is but that doesn't help us here much.
justinnum1 commented:
January 15, 2012, 6:50 pm

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Originally Posted by soledoc View Post
Did that one have the sport package? That might make the difference in body roll. I know what you mean with that. I've been in Audis that do that. I'm not a 100% car guy that needs it to drive like a race car. I do like it to look nice and be somewhat unique and have some kick. I think the A4 like the one you drove with a sport package would be nice. Plus I wouldn't have to change out summer/winter tires which would save some $ too.
Yea it did, i like the sport rims they have, but there was still a little to much body roll for me for when i want to get my lewis hamilton on
westwest888 commented:
January 15, 2012, 6:55 pm

I drove my friend's e90 LCI for a few hundred miles on the way to Vegas. He bought it during a recession time when they were doing free xDrive. It has noticeable body roll.
justinnum1 commented:
January 15, 2012, 6:58 pm

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I drove my friend's e90 LCI for a few hundred miles on the way to Vegas. He bought it during a recession time when they were doing free xDrive. It has noticeable body roll.
That sux, both my 335 sports were perfect suspensions. Personally i think bmw makes the best sport suspensions, much better than it's german competitors.
Blax commented:
January 16, 2012, 1:47 am

Has anyone figured out what the "enhanced Bluetooth and USB" that is mentioned on the BMW Assist option actually is?

It's a compulsory option if you want the BMW apps, but also makes me wonder what they leave out of the 'regular' Bluetooth and USB that comes standard with the car. Thoughts?
justinnum1 commented:
January 16, 2012, 8:57 am

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Originally Posted by Blax View Post
Has anyone figured out what the "enhanced Bluetooth and USB" that is mentioned on the BMW Assist option actually is?

It's a compulsory option if you want the BMW apps, but also makes me wonder what they leave out of the 'regular' Bluetooth and USB that comes standard with the car. Thoughts?
enhanced bluetooth means you can play music off your phone to your car through bluetooth
mr_clueless commented:
January 16, 2012, 9:00 am

On a related note, does BMW support playing music off an SD card? Or would one have to buy an SD card reader with a USB cable in order to get there?

Both Audi and MB support SD cards.
SuperTerp commented:
January 16, 2012, 9:21 am

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Originally Posted by mr_clueless View Post
On a related note, does BMW support playing music off an SD card? Or would one have to buy an SD card reader with a USB cable in order to get there?

Both Audi and MB support SD cards.
I assume the latter, I've not seen any kind of SD card slot mentioned.
Blax commented:
January 18, 2012, 11:00 am

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Originally Posted by SoonerJohn View Post
It's a much nicer configurator than the old one! There is still at least one problem with it though - there is nowhere to select the "Adaptive M Suspension" even though I know it is an option available with the Sport Line.
Yes, this is still not available on the configuration. I checked though, it's a $900 option when you have the sport package.