All-New 2013 BMW F31 3 Series Sports Wagon Arrives at US Dealers Spring 2013

by Tim Jones on May 12, 2012, 7:08 pm
BMW F31 3 series touring hits US showrooms spring 2013

BMW released the first images and information on the next generation BMW F31 3 Series Sports Wagon and announced that, as with the two previous generations, this model will be offered in the US. Unlike anything else on the market, the all-new 3 Series Sports Wagon will again offer the flexibility and utility one would expect from a premium wagon combined with the driving dynamics of the quintessential sport sedan, the BMW 3 Series. The new BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon will launch in Europe later this year and is set to arrive in US showrooms in Spring 2013. Powertrain details for the US as well as pricing, specifications and standard/optional equipment will be announced at a later date.

Like its Sedan sibling, the new 3 Series Sports Wagon is slightly larger than its predecessor, most notably its wider track (front + 37 mm/1.46 in., rear + 48 mm/1.85 in.). The car's length (+ 97 mm/3.66 in.) and wheelbase (+ 50 mm/1.96 in.) also accentuate its sporting promise. Inside the new BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon, rear passengers will appreciate the noticeable increase in space made possible by the larger dimensions. These larger dimensions also pay dividends in utility with nearly ten percent more cargo volume both with the rear seats up and when folded.

The new 3 Series Sports Wagon will be the next model to offer BMW Lines as a way to tailor the car to individual tastes, just as with the Sedan, by choosing from a trio of trim and equipment variants – the Sport Line, Luxury Line and Modern Line. Each presents its own individual take on the character of the Sports wagon, with exclusive, high-quality trim and material combinations. For the enthusiast who wants to go beyond even the Sport Line, the M Sport Line will also be offered because it is, after all, a BMW 3 Series at its heart.

BMW 3 series touring official details

Striking face with precise contours and multi-faceted surfaces
Characteristically, the sporting nature of the new BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon is made apparent to the eye by its wide track. By accentuating the width of the car, the multi-faceted surfaces of the expressive front fascia give the 3 Series Sports Wagon a more athletic face than ever.

A three-dimensional interpretation of the upright, slightly forward-slanting BMW kidney grille emphasizes an assured presence. LED accent lights positioned like eyebrows above the traditional four round headlights with corona rings (if Adaptive Xenon headlights are specified) lend an extra intensity to the classic BMW focused look. Clearly defined headlight surrounds now extend up to the frame of the kidney grille, merging the headlights and grille into a single stylistic element and adding further emphasis to the car's broad-set stance. The 3 Series Sports Wagon replaces the central air intake of its predecessor with two larger intakes, which are positioned underneath the headlights to the outer edges of the front fascia and add extra depth to the car's sporty look. On the left and right edges of the main ducts are small vertical intakes which help create the "Air Curtain". This new technology improves air flow around the front wheels, enhancing aerodynamic efficiency and reducing fuel consumption at higher speeds.

The closely spaced, squat openings of the kidney grille, with their eye-catching surrounds, form the most prominent element of the new BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon's front design. It is also where the precise lines of the dynamically contoured hood begin at the base of the A pillars and flow over the full length of the hood. The result is a front that appears lower-slung, giving 3 Series Sports Wagon a clear sporting edge when viewed head-on.

BMW F31 sports wagon

Precise lines produce a silhouette that enhances the car's dynamic impact
Powerfully taut surfaces with sweeping lines dominate the side view of the BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon, stretching the car visually and lending extra verve to its dynamic stance. The flanks of the car are shaped by an eye-catching double character line running alongside each other. The higher character line emerges out of the low-slung nose and flows over the front wheel with an understated sweep, in a nod to the wagon's fleetness of foot. The second character line develops lower down behind the front wheel and follows a delicately arching path towards the rear. Together, they reinforce the dynamic wedge shape of the car's flanks. As well as providing a discreet increase in muscularity in the rear section below the character line, these styling cues also create vivid light and shade effects, which draw further attention to the car's wide track.

The car's athletic overall impression is emphasized by the steeply raked D-pillars, the angle of the rear window and the subtly wedge-shaped geometry of the window surfaces. The roofline – which slopes downwards slightly to the rear and is extended visually by a spoiler – and the "Hofmeister kink" at the foot of the D-pillar also generate a sense of dynamic tension. The finely balance between the greenhouse and the body lends the new BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon a sporty, elegant and nimble look, while the rear lights extend well into the sides of the body and combine with its flowing lines to create a harmonious transition between the flanks and rear section.

The rear of the new BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon also boasts a blend of sporting elegance and modern practicality. The horizontal lines and L-shaped lights set far to the outer edges accentuate the subtly flared fenders and the wider track. Two integrated bars of LEDs allow a slim light design and ensure they maintain an appearance that is instantly recognizable as a BMW both day and night. The positioning of the lights at the outer edges of the rear underline the car's hunkered-down stance on the road. The large tailgate opening and low sill make loading and unloading bulky items that much easier.

The new BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon again features a rear window that opens separately from the tailgate. The window is unlocked electrically via a button on the rear window wiper arm and opened by hand. This practical function makes it easier to load and unload smaller items – especially when space is tight, as the rear window opens up rather than out.

In order to make access to its generous cargo area easier, a power tailgate will be offered for the first time on a 3 Series Sports Wagon. Getting into the cargo area can be done at the touch of a button, either on the remote key or from inside the interior. Access is made even easier when Comfort Access is ordered, which will include the Hands Free Opening Tailgate. If one approaches the new 3 Series Sports Wagon with hands full, one need only stick a foot under the rear bumper and the tailgate automatically swings open.

Practicality and versatility: Hallmarks for the new 3 Series Sports Wagon
The new BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon offers remarkable flexibility. A net as well as an additional strap along the right side panel can be used to help secure cargo. Four tie-downs are integrated into the cargo floor. A net along the left-hand panel will also be available. A pair of coat hooks and an addition 12-volt outlet add an extra measure of flexibility. A storage tray under the load compartment floor and a deep stowage compartment on the left-hand side of the cargo area can accommodate smaller items. Another neat twist, the luggage compartment cover can be stowed away under the load compartment floor, allowing it to be kept in the car even when not in use. Also standard is a separate partition net, which can be employed in a variety of ways even when the rearseat backrests are folded down. The rear seats can be folded down in three sections in a 40:20:40 split. The large through-loading facility allows the new 3 Series Sports Wagon to carry four adults and longer items, such as skis or snowboards, at the same time.

In addition to the flexibility and utility offered by the interior of the new BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon, other features unique to this model includes roof-rails to accommodate all manner of storage racks for everything from bicycles and skis to cargo boxes. It will also be available with a full glass panoramic sunroof.

BMW ConnectedDrive: The latest in safety and infotainment
With its broad range of driver assistance systems and mobility services, all offered as part of BMW ConnectedDrive, the new BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon sets a new benchmark when it comes to safety, convenience and infotainment. To ensure that the available features deliver the maximum benefit, the exchange of information between the passengers, the vehicle and the outside world is managed by BMW ConnectedDrive.

The new BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon is available with a full-color Head-Up Display. It projects key information in sharp resolution onto the windshield in the driver's direct field of vision. Depending on the vehicle specification the speed limit is noted in addition to the car's speed. The driver can also see navigation instructions and various alerts in the Head-Up Display. Thanks to the wide variety of driver assistance systems available in the new BMW 3 Series range, more information can be placed in the driver's direct line-of-sight while their eyes remain squarely on the road.

State-of-the-art camera technology provides the potential for new levels of safety and convenience. Active Safety options include Lane Departure Warning as well as Blind Spot Detection. Backing up and parking both are made easier with the available Rear-view Camera with Top View which provides a bird's-eye view of the car. Another convenience-enhancing assistance system is the BMW Parking Assistant, which takes charge of maneuvering into parking spaces making parallel-parking a breeze.

BMW Assist, a globally unique mobility service, comprises among other features a telephone information service and BMW's industry-leading enhanced Automatic Collision Notification function with automatic detection of the vehicle location. BMW Assist also includes Bluetooth hands-free phone connectivity.

Other innovative technologies allow the integration of the Apple iPhone and other smartphones as well as music players, including the use of Internet-based services. The Apps option enables iPhone users, among other things, to receive Internet radio stations and to display Facebook and Twitter posts on the onboard monitor. With BMW Apps, iPhone users can access and listen to music streaming services like Pandora and MOG today with Stitcher coming soon.

The all-new BMW 3 Series Sports Wagon again brings the versatility of a wagon with the driving dynamics of the quintessential sport sedan. The new 3 Series Sports wagon will be arriving in US showrooms in spring 2013. Powertrain details for the US as well as pricing, specifications and standard/optional equipment will be announced at a later date.
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182 responses to All-New 2013 BMW F31 3 Series Sports Wagon Arrives at US Dealers Spring 2013

MMME30W commented:
May 12, 2012, 7:54 pm

tturedraider commented:
May 12, 2012, 8:13 pm

That's a pretty long time from now. Will the E91 continue to be available through the end of this year?
pegscrapr commented:
May 12, 2012, 8:23 pm

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Originally Posted by tturedraider View Post
That's a pretty long time from now. Will the E91 continue to be available through the end of this year?
Nope. Production for the E91 is over in June.

Sent from my PC36100 using Bimmer App
d geek commented:
May 12, 2012, 9:08 pm

Hoping for a diesel option
Chris90 commented:
May 12, 2012, 10:01 pm

I kinda like it! Don't usually like BMW wagons.

My problem is BMWs are too nice to do wagon- type stuff with. We bought a Subaru Outback for that, don't mind getting it dirty, taking it into the mud etc.
TenzoR commented:
May 13, 2012, 7:07 am

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Originally Posted by Chris90 View Post
I kinda like it! Don't usually like BMW wagons.

My problem is BMWs are too nice to do wagon- type stuff with. We bought a Subaru Outback for that, don't mind getting it dirty, taking it into the mud etc.
Don't be a pansy

I've been using my E46 to carry a lot of gardening products (dirt, mulch, pebble stones, etc). Went camping with it. Not to mention lots of trips up and down the mountain during Winter.
Chris90 commented:
May 13, 2012, 7:19 am

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Originally Posted by TenzoR View Post
Don't be a pansy

I've been using my E46 to carry a lot of gardening products (dirt, mulch, pebble stones, etc). Went camping with it. Not to mention lots of trips up and down the mountain during Winter.
Did you do that when it was new? I just want a utility car I don't mind getting beat up.
AzNMpower32 commented:
May 13, 2012, 2:34 pm

Continuing the tradition, the touring model looks better than its sedan counterpart. Nice.

If I had the means, I would consider getting one if it came in a diesel and a manual.

I put my muddy Freeride bike and bike gear in the cargo area of my X3 without a second thought about all the mud and tire tracks at get smeared all over the carpet and backside of the front seats. As long as it gets cleaned off, it doesn't matter what car I drive- it's gonna get dirty
TenzoR commented:
May 14, 2012, 6:23 am

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Originally Posted by Chris90 View Post
Did you do that when it was new? I just want a utility car I don't mind getting beat up.
I started slow but eventually I just realize it's a car that's meant to be used. However, I still conver it with cloth sheets and whatnot when I carry stuff.
gesoffen commented:
May 14, 2012, 7:14 am

BMWUSA - if you're reading this, THANK YOU for bringing the F31 over. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't screw it up by offering only in automatic! I'll be replacing my e46 wagon with an F31 but only if its available in manual transmission. My number 1 requirement is a manual transmission - not negotiable.

And BMWUSA, if you've read this far, maybe you can give us the option of RWD in the F31 and a couple of engine choices, perhaps even a diesel. I know beggars can't be choosers but....
DC-IT commented:
May 14, 2012, 7:54 am

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Originally Posted by Chris90 View Post
Did you do that when it was new? I just want a utility car I don't mind getting beat up.
I use my 2011 ML350 BlueTec to haul bags of triple mix soil for planting as well as all kinds of plants and a 6' Japanese Maple tree.
After all its just a truck and meant to be driven.

I'd be interested in an F31d as a replacement for my 335d.
OBS3SSION commented:
May 14, 2012, 9:25 am

And there was much rejoicing. Actually, waiting until Spring is fine by me. I want to pay off the M3 before taking on another car, so I'm realistically looking at a Summer 2014 Euro Delivery.

And I agree with a statement above. RWD please.
sjhwilkes commented:
May 14, 2012, 9:57 am

Shame about all the silly line stuff, but still good. Trip to Munich in 2013 me thinks.
Chris90 commented:
May 14, 2012, 11:01 am

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Originally Posted by gesoffen View Post
BMWUSA - if you're reading this, THANK YOU for bringing the F31 over. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't screw it up by offering only in automatic! I'll be replacing my e46 wagon with an F31 but only if its available in manual transmission. My number 1 requirement is a manual transmission - not negotiable.
Good luck with that.
Bob Shiftright commented:
May 14, 2012, 12:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Chris90 View Post
I kinda like it! Don't usually like BMW wagons.

My problem is BMWs are too nice to do wagon- type stuff with. We bought a Subaru Outback for that, don't mind getting it dirty, taking it into the mud etc.
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Originally Posted by TenzoR View Post
Don't be a pansy

I've been using my E46 to carry a lot of gardening products (dirt, mulch, pebble stones, etc). Went camping with it. Not to mention lots of trips up and down the mountain during Winter.
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Originally Posted by Chris90 View Post
Did you do that when it was new? I just want a utility car I don't mind getting beat up.
Utility was my entire point of buying a wagon! True, you can drive a Porsche to Home Depot or the garden store (like in the Porsche ads), but where do you put the STUFF you buy?

I've tried Subarus. I'd be miserable driving a Subaru all the time, not just when it got dirty.
Legal Alien commented:
May 14, 2012, 3:40 pm

F31 325D would be great!! Please BMW!
d geek commented:
May 14, 2012, 4:00 pm

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Originally Posted by Legal Alien View Post
F31 325D would be great!! Please BMW!
I'm surprised to not see this engine offered yet. Right now only the 1er and 5er have it available anywhere.
JoeFromPA commented:
May 14, 2012, 4:05 pm

Excellent. And for the first time, I'm totally happy with it if it's just offered in the base engine with a 6-speed manual transmission.

I have to say, I find the wagon MUCH more visually integrated in the rear than the sedan. Startingly so - this wagon is sexy front and rear, while the sedan look awkward in the rear by comparison.
MB330 commented:
May 14, 2012, 4:15 pm





Read from another blog (no link until I get home) that 330d will be offering.
d geek commented:
May 14, 2012, 4:29 pm

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Originally Posted by MB330 View Post
...Read from another blog (no link until I get home) that 330d will be offering.
Ya- Car and Driver made a brief mention of that. I'm hopeful that they'll bring it over in the F31
Bob Shiftright commented:
May 14, 2012, 4:39 pm

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Read from another blog (no link until I get home) that 330d will be offering.
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Originally Posted by d geek View Post
Ya- Car and Driver made a brief mention of that. I'm hopeful that they'll bring it over in the F31
With three pedals? If so, this will be extremely difficult to resist!

JoeFromPA commented:
May 14, 2012, 4:40 pm

No way will they do the 330d in manual transmission. BMW has NEVER been that kind to U.S. enthusiasts with real-life needs.

In fact, they'll probably offer the best engine with the worst transmission they have in stock
d geek commented:
May 14, 2012, 4:48 pm

They are not offerring the 330d with a manual at this point. It will have the new 8 spd auto. By all reports outstanding efficiency and performance.
Chris90 commented:
May 14, 2012, 5:24 pm

The wagon will be base engine and no manual. Anything else and monkeys will fly from my butt.
Bob Shiftright commented:
May 14, 2012, 6:11 pm

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Originally Posted by JoeFromPA View Post
No way will they do the 330d in manual transmission. BMW has NEVER been that kind to U.S. enthusiasts with real-life needs.

In fact, they'll probably offer the best engine with the worst transmission they have in stock
Oh, probably! But they did sell the E28 524td in the US with a manual. Only, not too many, which was the problem.

But since BMW did it before, we can always dream, can't we?
AzNMpower32 commented:
May 14, 2012, 6:32 pm

My guess is the US will get a 328iT xDrive with a choice of manual and AT.
OBS3SSION commented:
May 14, 2012, 7:07 pm

Hmmm, did I read it wrong or does the article say the wagon has LED tail lights? Interesting that, since I'm hearing the sedan does not.
MB330 commented:
May 14, 2012, 7:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Majikthese42 View Post
With three pedals? If so, this will be extremely difficult to resist!
I don't think so. 99.99% it will be Automatic.
m8o commented:
May 14, 2012, 9:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Majikthese42 View Post
Oh, probably! But they did sell the E28 524td in the US with a manual. Only, not too many, which was the problem.
The [ahem] wagon aftermarket kit couldn't have helped !!!

pegscrapr commented:
May 14, 2012, 10:18 pm

I can't see BMW ever not offering a manual in any 3 series.
TenzoR commented:
May 15, 2012, 5:43 am

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Originally Posted by AzNMpower32 View Post
My guess is the US will get a 328iT xDrive with a choice of manual and AT.
I thought the E91 had a choice between RWD and AWD? I know for Canada it was AWD only.

I wouldn't mind getting a RWD Wagon
Chris90 commented:
May 15, 2012, 7:00 am

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Originally Posted by pegscrapr View Post
I can't see BMW ever not offering a manual in any 3 series.
Like the 335d?
AzNMpower32 commented:
May 15, 2012, 9:16 am

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Originally Posted by TenzoR View Post
I thought the E91 had a choice between RWD and AWD? I know for Canada it was AWD only.

I wouldn't mind getting a RWD Wagon
The take rate for the rear drive Touring model is really low. From a business perspective it makes little sense.
OBS3SSION commented:
May 15, 2012, 9:17 am

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Originally Posted by TenzoR View Post
I thought the E91 had a choice between RWD and AWD? I know for Canada it was AWD only.

I wouldn't mind getting a RWD Wagon
I just checked BMWUSA.com and I can configure an E91 in RWD or AWD, and I can remove the Steptronic on both of them. So if the E91 was offered in rear or all wheel drive, and with or without a third peddle, then don't you think the F31 will follow suit? The sedan will be.
Bob Shiftright commented:
May 15, 2012, 9:52 am

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Originally Posted by OBS3SSION View Post
I just checked BMWUSA.com and I can configure an E91 in RWD or AWD, and I can remove the Steptronic on both of them. So if the E91 was offered in rear or all wheel drive, and with or without a third peddle, then don't you think the F31 will follow suit? The sedan will be.
The first year 2006 E91 was, I think, a 325xi and available in AWD only. The RWD and 328i came along for 2007.

They sell more 'verts than wagons, so who knows what they'll do.
Chris90 commented:
May 15, 2012, 11:06 am

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Originally Posted by OBS3SSION View Post
I just checked BMWUSA.com and I can configure an E91 in RWD or AWD, and I can remove the Steptronic on both of them. So if the E91 was offered in rear or all wheel drive, and with or without a third peddle, then don't you think the F31 will follow suit? The sedan will be.
Blame the US government for forcing so many crash tests on each car variant. I think you only get an exemption if you're really small volume, like Ferrari.
jonathan2263 commented:
May 19, 2012, 1:59 pm

The article said there would be an M Sport version. That would have to be RWD. They did it on the E46 and E91 so why not this? And I'm sure you'll be able to order a manual transmission also. If you see one on a showroom floor, it would almost certainly be an automatic, but if you're willing to wait, or do Euro-delivery, I'm sure you can get 3 pedals just like the one in the picture.

And so long as manual/RWD is available, may be an eventual replacement for the E46 Touring. I just wish the nose wasn't quite so high.
Bruce128iC commented:
May 19, 2012, 2:37 pm

Why does it take BMW SO long to release new variants of a series? Mercedes is much better at rolling out coupes, convertibles, sedans, and wagons of its given model. With BMW it's years between variants. Very frustrating. When are the new coupes and verts coming out? 2014?
AutoUnion commented:
May 19, 2012, 2:49 pm

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Originally Posted by pegscrapr View Post
I can't see BMW ever not offering a manual in any 3 series.
Why not? It makes sense in the future if no one is actually buying them. Let's be real here, the people that BMW depends on for profits and volume aren't buying the 6MT. It's the "enthusiasts" who don't buy new BMWs every couple years. They keep their cars for a decade. BMW doesn't have to please these members, if they're not buying new cars from them.

Only BMW and Audi seem adamant to keeping the 6MT around. Look at MB or Lexus. They only offer the 6MT on the lower end models, whereas Audi/BMW offer it throughout the whole 3 lineup.
davidc1 commented:
May 20, 2012, 8:33 am

With increased space, I no longer feel the need for 5 series touring.
LMC commented:
May 20, 2012, 2:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Bruce128iC View Post
Why does it take BMW SO long to release new variants of a series? Mercedes is much better at rolling out coupes, convertibles, sedans, and wagons of its given model. With BMW it's years between variants. Very frustrating. When are the new coupes and verts coming out? 2014?
I suspect that Mercedes has more engineering resources available to work on the full line than BMW does. So BMW devotes most effort to the sedan first...then, as the sedan nears production status, can reallocate efforts to the largely similar touring first and finally move the resources to the coupe & cabrio models. The alternative, I suppose, would be to finish the sedan but keep it under wraps until the others are ready as well.

m8o commented:
May 20, 2012, 10:39 pm

I'll tell ya'll... If there's a F31 335xi available that can give me an avg of 25mpg [and better would be better] and still slam me into my seat performance wise when I put the foot down, I don't think I'll care which transmission it'll come with.

Now tho... if the addition of the 'x' prohibits the option of M Sport suspension, that may a) disappoint, and b) make me pause when deciding what to get. Glad if I have to decide, and I bet we will, it won't be for another year.
ProRail commented:
May 22, 2012, 7:11 pm

At last.
jbeene commented:
May 23, 2012, 10:22 pm

The E91 came in awd, with manual tranny and Msport - it must be true cause I have one in my driveway.

So did the E61 535x drive. But in the F10 no manual transmission in drive, but in Canada (at least) you can get Msport on the drive. Well and no F11 for that matter. 5 GT...puleez

I bet the toast the manual tranny option. A real shame though Would be so nice if we could just order to suit our wants. Make mine a 335xi Msport MT in Carbon Black with cinnamon interior!
LogicMan commented:
May 25, 2012, 1:06 pm

BMW are you listening? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Bring this to America with the option of the new auto 20d EfficientDynamics engine!!!!

If you do, you will sell more of these than all Audi A3's, Jetta Sportwagens and Prius' combined!

For those who are unfamiliar, with that new 2 liter diesel engine, the F31 could get 50mpg!!

In fact, BMW needs to put that engine as an option in most of their models, even an X5 and definitely an X3. Who wouldn't want an X5 that got around 36-40hwy?!!!
d geek commented:
May 25, 2012, 1:31 pm

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Originally Posted by LogicMan View Post
BMW are you listening? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Bring this to America with the option of the new auto 20d EfficientDynamics engine!!!!

If you do, you will sell more of these than all Audi A3's, Jetta Sportwagens and Prius' combined...
I admire your enthusiasm, but you might be overstating this just a skosh considering the pricing on some of those models compared to a BMW.
jygesq commented:
May 25, 2012, 1:42 pm

the 2012 still has 6 cylinder non turbo engine!THE LAST OF THE REAL BMW'S
voip-ninja commented:
May 25, 2012, 2:22 pm

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Originally Posted by m8o View Post
I'll tell ya'll... If there's a F31 335xi available that can give me an avg of 25mpg [and better would be better] and still slam me into my seat performance wise when I put the foot down, I don't think I'll care which transmission it'll come with.

Now tho... if the addition of the 'x' prohibits the option of M Sport suspension, that may a) disappoint, and b) make me pause when deciding what to get. Glad if I have to decide, and I bet we will, it won't be for another year.
Adaptive suspension and steering is available for the first time (according to my CA) in an AWD BMW with the option now there for ordering on the 2013 F30, so I would imagine it will be available on the F31 too.

I'm not sure how much sportier than stock suspension it is and how it stacks up to sport suspension but my CA says it's a first for BMW.
m8o commented:
May 25, 2012, 5:22 pm

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Originally Posted by voip-ninja View Post
Adaptive suspension and steering is available for the first time (according to my CA) in an AWD BMW with the option now there for ordering on the 2013 F30, so I would imagine it will be available on the F31 too.
I'm not sure how much sportier than stock suspension it is and how it stacks up to sport suspension but my CA says it's a first for BMW.
Now that is something! I have Penske 8100 dual adjustable racing dampers on my C43/55 and have tried every realistic combination of the individual compression to rebound speed in various driving situations. I gather from descriptions and accounts that the Adaptive suspension is like me changing the compression from 1/6 to 4/6 (give or take one "click" of the adjuster) and similar change on rebound (tho rebound has like 5x more division indents for some reason), but automatically and on the fly. If that is indeed the the case, the Adaptive suspension is a must have for me.

That upcoming wagon could be stacking up to be the do-all be-all vehicle I always wanted and can serve the purpose of three that I have now in one. (fast, yet frugal, great handling, yet utilitarian & capable in all weather [but with the changing of tires between summer & winter]).
htimsdj commented:
May 29, 2012, 2:31 pm

I am really looking forward to this car. I had a 9-3 Sport Combi, and currently drive an A6 Avant. I would probably get the F31 in RWD if possible and keep the A6 as well (it's only 3 years old). I just like wagons!

If the sedan lines are any indication of what the wagons will get, the grey wagon above is not possible. It's got chrome around the windows, but Modern wheels. I like the turbine style wheels, but I like the chrome around the windows more. The chrome, especially on the wagon, accentuates the better roofline. I guess I'll wait a year to see what is available.

How do BMW interiors hold up over time? I know nothing is built like it used to be, but I'm hoping for 8 to 10 years from the Audi, and would like the same from this option as well.

Thanks, Jeff
floydarogers commented:
May 29, 2012, 4:16 pm

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Originally Posted by JYG Y2k5285spCT View Post
the 2012 still has 6 cylinder non turbo engine!THE LAST OF THE REAL BMW'S
Considering that the 2002, 2002ti and 2002tii were the first BMWs in the US, and they had I-4s of various persuasions - including turbocharged, I think your statement is c$%^.
uter commented:
May 29, 2012, 10:32 pm

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Originally Posted by floydarogers View Post
Considering that the 2002, 2002ti and 2002tii were the first BMWs in the US, and they had I-4s of various persuasions - including turbocharged, I think your statement is c$%^.
Um, the 2002 wasn't the first BMW in the US.
AzNMpower32 commented:
May 29, 2012, 10:42 pm

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Originally Posted by htimsdj View Post
How do BMW interiors hold up over time? I know nothing is built like it used to be, but I'm hoping for 8 to 10 years from the Audi, and would like the same from this option as well.

Thanks, Jeff
The soft plastic trims around the steering wheel, door handles will likely start to peel, depending on usage and environmental factors.
floydarogers commented:
May 30, 2012, 12:21 am

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Originally Posted by uter View Post
Um, the 2002 wasn't the first BMW in the US.
You want to go with the Isetta's motorcycle engine?
uter commented:
May 30, 2012, 12:28 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by floydarogers View Post
You want to go with the Isetta's motorcycle engine?

You got it
Bob Shiftright commented:
May 30, 2012, 7:01 am

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Originally Posted by floydarogers View Post
You want to go with the Isetta's motorcycle engine?
Quote:
Originally Posted by uter View Post

You got it
Anything from about 1 cylinder to 28 cylinders -- to a jet engine -- seems to be the BMW "tradition". (Truth be told, dinging customers for things like floor mats, exhaust tips and the good suspension pieces seems more of a BMW tradition!)

V8 -- I think Hoffman tried selling the 502 in the US and it wasn't a big seller. "In November 1954, at Hoffman's insistence, BMW contracted designer Albrecht von Goertz to design the BMW 503 and the 507."

The Neue Klasse 1602 and then the 2002 appeared on these shores a few years later.

I'm not sure they "officially" imported the 2002 Turbo to the US.
Axel61 commented:
May 30, 2012, 2:53 pm

Damn this wagon is sweat looking,would love to have it in DIESEL platform
pegscrapr commented:
May 30, 2012, 3:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Axel61 View Post
Damn this wagon is sweet looking,would love to have it in DIESEL platform
The side profile is the only angle that looks really good to me. Everywhere else, it's not appealing at all. I'll be happy to receive my "old school" E91 in a month.
sactoken commented:
June 1, 2012, 8:40 pm

F31 revealed in Leipzig!

http://www.bmwblog.com/2012/06/01/20...eries-touring/

No luggage area pix unfortunately. One difference I notice is the brushed aluminum window trim on the Modern Line. Wonder if that will be on the 2013 sedan as well?
reidconti commented:
June 4, 2012, 11:00 am

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Originally Posted by MB330 View Post
I don't think so. 99.99% it will be Automatic.
Sorry, but no. Practically guaranteed that BMW will offer it with a 6MT. BMW sold the 2007 530ixT without a manual, but then offered a manual option on the 2008 535ixT. If they sell a car like that with a stick, they'll sell the F31 with one. The commenter who mentioned the 335d; well, that was a bit absurd, since it was BMW's first re-entry to the diesel market in the US.

The other commenter who said Audi and BMW are sticking with manuals; Audi's not, they dropped the 6MT on the B8 Avant which is why I don't own one today. And they're ditching the Avant for the allroad, now with more slushbox. And you can't get anything but an A3 in the US with DSG, you have to get the crappy autobox.

To the above poster, there are pictures ALL OVER the internet showing the cargo area of the F31.
AutoUnion commented:
June 4, 2012, 11:02 am

^ The "crappy" autobox in the A4 line is probably the same ZF unit in most BMWs


Audi is sticking to the manual transmission throughout the A4 sedan lineup, but not the Avant because people don't buy them
reidconti commented:
June 4, 2012, 11:44 am

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Originally Posted by AutoUnion View Post
^ The "crappy" autobox in the A4 line is probably the same ZF unit in most BMWs
Could well be. The A4 I drove had the "lineartronic" or whatever their stupid "-tronic" name is for "CVT". The autobox in the 328 is okay, but I wouldn't buy one. My point was, VW is so pro-DSG, and Audi has DSGs all over their european line; that's the ONE way I'd compromise on not buying a manual, I'd consider a DSG, but they don't give us that option here except on FWD A3s.

Quote:
Audi is sticking to the manual transmission throughout the A4 sedan lineup, but not the Avant because people don't buy them
Me neither, now.
AutoUnion commented:
June 4, 2012, 12:12 pm

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Originally Posted by reidconti View Post
Could well be. The A4 I drove had the "lineartronic" or whatever their stupid "-tronic" name is for "CVT". The autobox in the 328 is okay, but I wouldn't buy one. My point was, VW is so pro-DSG, and Audi has DSGs all over their european line; that's the ONE way I'd compromise on not buying a manual, I'd consider a DSG, but they don't give us that option here except on FWD A3s.
Yup, this is BMW "rigging" the events. Everyone knows you have to buy a Quattro Audi (with the 8 spd ZF) for the better drive.

I agree with you on the DSGs. VW seems to have no issues with it, but Audi does. I want to see more DSG Audis
Larry Cable commented:
June 4, 2012, 12:15 pm

it looks good, but we'll end up again with some lame-ass engine ... and even although its bigger than the previous model ... its just not quite big enough (especially) in the luggage area...

please bring the 5 series wagon (535 or preferably 550) back to the US, include M-Sport and retain 6sp manual transmission ... I'll buy one!
AutoUnion commented:
June 4, 2012, 12:31 pm

If BMW neuters this car with just the N20, people could just get the X1 35i.

I wonder how the X1 will be sold side by side with the F31. They are essentially the same car, yet the X1 offers a slightly higher-up driving position, etc.
floydarogers commented:
June 4, 2012, 1:09 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by AutoUnion View Post
If BMW neuters this car with just the N20, people could just get the X1 35i.

I wonder how the X1 will be sold side by side with the F31. They are essentially the same car, yet the X1 offers a slightly higher-up driving position, etc.
No, the X1 is built on the 1-series chassis. Way different, much less room behind the seats.
AutoUnion commented:
June 4, 2012, 1:10 pm

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Originally Posted by floydarogers View Post
No, the X1 is built on the 1-series chassis. Way different, much less room behind the seats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_X1

Quote:
The BMW X1 is a compact crossover manufactured by BMW. It extends the current BMW Sports Activity Series model lineup which includes the BMW X3, BMW X5, and the BMW X6. The X1 is based on the same platform as the BMW 3 Series Touring (wagon) with xDrive.[2] Compared to the larger X3, the X1 is positioned as a slightly smaller but more affordable and sportier entry.[3]
reidconti commented:
June 4, 2012, 1:35 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by AutoUnion View Post
I wonder how the X1 will be sold side by side with the F31. They are essentially the same car, yet the X1 offers a slightly higher-up driving position, etc.
So what you're saying is, the X1 is worse. Sorry, I want a car, not a cute ute.

If I wanted a truck, I'd get a REAL truck.
d geek commented:
June 4, 2012, 2:01 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by reidconti View Post
... The commenter who mentioned the 335d; well, that was a bit absurd, since it was BMW's first re-entry to the diesel market in the US...
I'm not sure what you mean. The only trans offerred with this engine in the whole lineup anywhere in the world was the auto.
moviebumm commented:
June 10, 2012, 10:15 am

I like the new 3 series wagon.
floydarogers commented:
June 10, 2012, 11:22 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by AutoUnion View Post
The X1 and current 1-series have the same wheelbase (the 3-series is 6 inches or so more).
So although "based on" means that many of the mechanical bits are the same, it's substantially smaller than the 3-series wagon, which actually was the point of my post.
SilverX3 commented:
June 10, 2012, 6:51 pm

simply gorgeous
3ismagic# commented:
June 10, 2012, 7:55 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by AutoUnion View Post
If BMW neuters this car with just the N20, people could just get the X1 35i.

I wonder how the X1 will be sold side by side with the F31. They are essentially the same car, yet the X1 offers a slightly higher-up driving position, etc.
I am curious about this too. If the pricing of the E91 is any indication the X1 should undercut the F31 by 5-6 grand. The F31 will be a bit larger (especially in the back hatch).

Also given that the X1 is not going to be available with a manual tranny I won't be surprised if the F31 is also auto only.

When it's time to replace my wife's car this is exactly the comparison I will be making (among others of course). At that price point I would most likely get the X1.
OBS3SSION commented:
June 11, 2012, 9:23 am

I'm dying to know when BMWNA will release info on which engine/tranny/drive-train options we'll get in the US, as well as other configuration options (and pricing.)

While I will most likely get an auto (face it... I just don't get to have fun with a DD and more often than not I'm lamenting the manual in my current wagon on daily drives), I have NO interest in an X-Drive, even though I do live in the northeast. Yes, my '03 330i with winter tires and ESC did extremely well in whatever the weather threw at me.
Billd104 commented:
July 13, 2012, 5:51 pm

Count me in... I'll trade the E61 for the F31
zolabmw commented:
July 15, 2012, 6:25 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by reidconti View Post
Sorry, but no. Practically guaranteed that BMW will offer it with a 6MT. BMW sold the 2007 530ixT without a manual, but then offered a manual option on the 2008 535ixT. If they sell a car like that with a stick, they'll sell the F31 with one. The commenter who mentioned the 335d; well, that was a bit absurd, since it was BMW's first re-entry to the diesel market in the US.

The other commenter who said Audi and BMW are sticking with manuals; Audi's not, they dropped the 6MT on the B8 Avant which is why I don't own one today. And they're ditching the Avant for the allroad, now with more slushbox. And you can't get anything but an A3 in the US with DSG, you have to get the crappy autobox.

To the above poster, there are pictures ALL OVER the internet showing the cargo area of the F31.
I have a 2007 530 xiT 6MT - so some must have come over - thank god!
tagheuer commented:
July 17, 2012, 1:50 pm

drove a 2013 Audi Allroad loaner this afternoon (my buddy's Audi S8 is in the shop for an oil change).

Loved the Allroad...beautiful interior...aluminium everywhere. Aluminium push button start next to gear shift.

Dash angled towards driver. Very solid and tight, perfect fit and finish.

Handled quite well too, nearly as good as my 2009 328.

Should be a real competitor to the F31.
reidconti commented:
July 17, 2012, 2:49 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by tagheuer View Post
drove a 2013 Audi Allroad loaner this afternoon (my buddy's Audi S8 is in the shop for an oil change).

Loved the Allroad...beautiful interior...aluminium everywhere. Aluminium push button start next to gear shift.

Dash angled towards driver. Very solid and tight, perfect fit and finish.

Handled quite well too, nearly as good as my 2009 328.

Should be a real competitor to the F31.
It's a bummer that the Allroad has entirely replaced the A4 avant, but it is *definitely* a looker.

I'd be concerned about Audi reliability much more so than BMW, but you can always buy new and ditch it when the warranty is up.. otherwise, I'd buy a used Audi as long as it saved me enough money to cover any possible costs

On the one hand, the A6 allroad was so cool, with its air suspension, 2.7T or V8, ... on the other hand, the air suspension AND the 2.7T were very trouble-prone.

The A4 allroad is more of a plastic-cladded version of 'the real deal' so I can see why the A6 Allroad people are completely unimpressed.. that said, I bet it'll sell like hotcakes.. and not many people need skidplates on their wagon.
OBS3SSION commented:
July 18, 2012, 10:01 am

Between the plastic cladding (Pontiac, anyone?) and the jacked up ride height, I lost all interest in the Allroad. I'll take a plain old A4 Avant any day. Too bad that ditched it completely in the US instead of making it a special order.
3ismagic# commented:
July 18, 2012, 12:43 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by OBS3SSION View Post
Between the plastic cladding (Pontiac, anyone?) and the jacked up ride height, I lost all interest in the Allroad. I'll take a plain old A4 Avant any day. Too bad that ditched it completely in the US instead of making it a special order.
For $1,475 you can pay for the option of getting rid of the plastic trim with the "full paint finish option".

So for $1500 you can make your all road look like an Avant? FU AUDI
OBS3SSION commented:
July 18, 2012, 3:43 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3ismagic# View Post
For $1,475 you can pay for the option of getting rid of the plastic trim with the "full paint finish option".

So for $1500 you can make your all road look like an Avant? FU AUDI
I'd have to cut the springs too...
reidconti commented:
August 22, 2012, 6:44 pm

Hopefully Jon relays word that we want a stick. Give me a shout when BMW offers one in the F31, Jon, I'll be happy to take a roadtrip down to SB to place my order
iSpY commented:
September 17, 2012, 4:18 am

Any idea when can we start putting in an order? Thinking to do ED too.
Billd104 commented:
September 19, 2012, 10:36 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by iSpY View Post
Any idea when can we start putting in an order? Thinking to do ED too.
It will be at least late Q4 '12 or early Q1 '13 before any orders are taken. Hope to see some solid info in the next 4-6 weeks. This is based on the timetable that was used for the F30 roll out.
iSpY commented:
September 20, 2012, 3:56 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billd104 View Post
It will be at least late Q4 '12 or early Q1 '13 before any orders are taken. Hope to see some solid info in the next 4-6 weeks. This is based on the timetable that was used for the F30 roll out.
Ok. Btw, does anyone know how is the wagon lease numbers look like when compared to the sedan in general (ie E90 vs E91)? Just want to know whether the cost will be similar to what we are seeing wight eh 328i right now
JoeFromPA commented:
September 20, 2012, 3:44 pm

Usually a bit more. Wagons usually have a slightly lower residual value.
Billd104 commented:
September 25, 2012, 9:05 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeFromPA View Post
Usually a bit more. Wagons usually have a slightly lower residual value.
What he said!!
Billd104 commented:
October 22, 2012, 12:29 pm

Anyone hear anything about the F31? We are getting into the time frame that we should be seeing some details about this since they should be on sale in Q1'13
Itgb commented:
October 23, 2012, 12:23 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billd104 View Post
Anyone hear anything about the F31? We are getting into the time frame that we should be seeing some details about this since they should be on sale in Q1'13
Based off the release of the F30 earlier this year, I would expect pricing and option sheets in November.
PDWebb commented:
November 1, 2012, 9:38 am

Another vote to BMWNA to offer the manual trans!
gesoffen commented:
November 1, 2012, 10:17 am

Dear BMW NA (I'm sure your are reading these!),

My E46 wagon with 5MT is topping 160k miles in the next few weeks. I will be looking to replace this car in the next 1-2 years with another wagon that has a manual transmission. If you don't offer a manual in the F31, I will be taking my money to the used car market (e91) or to another make.

If I had my preference, I'd like my F31 with 6MT and in the 320d, dancing on the turn table at die Welt where I will pick it up!
55 commented:
November 1, 2012, 12:44 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by gesoffen View Post
Dear BMW NA (I'm sure your are reading these!),

My E46 wagon with 5MT is topping 160k miles in the next few weeks. I will be looking to replace this car in the next 1-2 years with another wagon that has a manual transmission. If you don't offer a manual in the F31, I will be taking my money to the used car market (e91) or to another make.

If I had my preference, I'd like my F31 with 6MT and in the 320d, dancing on the turn table at die Welt where I will pick it up!
What another make?
JoeFromPA commented:
December 3, 2012, 5:09 pm

We're in december now. Pricing/Options sheet? Possibly combos of engine/trans?

Weirdly missing, as we see an uncovered gran turismo 3-series. Now I'm concerned
Itgb commented:
December 3, 2012, 5:18 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeFromPA View Post
We're in december now. Pricing/Options sheet? Possibly combos of engine/trans?

Weirdly missing, as we see an uncovered gran turismo 3-series. Now I'm concerned
My next guess would be NAIAS starting Jan 14th.
tim330i commented:
December 3, 2012, 5:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Itgb View Post
My next guess would be NAIAS starting Jan 14th.
Agreed. We'll be there covering BMW, as soon as we have the information, you will have the information.

Tim
NorthNJ commented:
December 16, 2012, 11:13 am

Still no pricing information on the f31?
whoever commented:
December 16, 2012, 11:49 am

Dream on

Quote:
Originally Posted by gesoffen View Post
If I had my preference, I'd like my F31 with 6MT and in the 320d, dancing on the turn table at die Welt where I will pick it up!
tim330i commented:
December 17, 2012, 10:14 am

Pricing should be coming out before the Detroit auto show. I would expect it any day now.

Tim
JoeFromPA commented:
December 17, 2012, 11:21 am

Tim,

Have you seen any confirmation that a 6mt is off the table for any wagon trim?
tim330i commented:
December 17, 2012, 11:26 am

Nothing confirmed but I won't be surprised. The take rate for manuals is so low it is hard for BMW to justify building them.

Tim
JoeFromPA commented:
December 17, 2012, 11:58 am

I understand. Someone had previously mentioned no manuals as if it was fact.

I won't be surprised, but will be dissapointed if no manual is available. I'm considering buying a 300hp 5-speed manual AWD wagon right now - however, it's 8 years old and has some miles on it
NorthNJ commented:
December 17, 2012, 9:23 pm

Tim, thanks for the info. I am looking forward to additional details.


Quote:
Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
Pricing should be coming out before the Detroit auto show. I would expect it any day now.

Tim
GT3Racerich commented:
January 10, 2013, 3:42 pm

Hey Guys. First post here.
I am wondering if there is any updated info. We took Euro Delivery on my wifes 2004 wagon and it now has 200,000+ miles so we would like to do it again but cannot get any info on when the new wagon will be available.
One more quick question if I may. I know that we get the car cheaper by taking Euro Delivery but I have heard that BMW club members get a discount when buying a new car. Does anyone know if that is correct and if so, would we get that discount (by becoming a member) in addition to the Euro Delivery price?
Thanks in advance, Rich
tim330i commented:
January 10, 2013, 3:47 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by GT3Racerich View Post
Hey Guys. First post here.
I am wondering if there is any updated info. We took Euro Delivery on my wifes 2004 wagon and it now has 200,000+ miles so we would like to do it again but cannot get any info on when the new wagon will be available.
Welcome to Bimmerfest! It is coming to US dealers this spring. Exact dates and pricing are not yet out, they might come out during the Detroit Auto Show this coming week. If they do we'll have them for you.


Quote:
Originally Posted by GT3Racerich View Post
One more quick question if I may. I know that we get the car cheaper by taking Euro Delivery but I have heard that BMW club members get a discount when buying a new car. Does anyone know if that is correct and if so, would we get that discount (by becoming a member) in addition to the Euro Delivery price?
Thanks in advance, Rich
You can get better pricing on euro delivery and there is a discount for BMW CCA members but I think you have to be a member for so many years before you get the discount.

Tim
uter commented:
January 10, 2013, 3:52 pm

The $500 rebate (on a 3 series) for BMWCCA members only requires an uninterrupted membership for 12 mo prior to purchase.

http://www.bmwcca.org/vehicle_rebate
GT3Racerich commented:
January 11, 2013, 11:28 am

Thanks guys
Looking forward to more info when it becomes available.
Rich.
JoeFromPA commented:
January 11, 2013, 11:31 am

It's unreal how far we've gotten with no final information on this.....this vehicle has been in europe for quite some time now.
tim330i commented:
January 11, 2013, 11:33 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeFromPA View Post
It's unreal how far we've gotten with no final information on this.....this vehicle has been in europe for quite some time now.
Not really. BMW did the same thing with the M5 and a few other cars (that I can't remember right now). An interesting note they did add the F31 sport wagon to the list of cars they're showing off in Detroit.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=664605

It wasn't on the list originally so they might surprise us and drop pricing. I'll be there so any news that comes out will go right on the site.

Tim
JoeFromPA commented:
January 11, 2013, 11:35 am

Tim,

I know it' sa long shot but...

Give me a manual or give me death!

Joe

P.s. Or maybe I'll just go buy a 2010 535xit...
Axxlrod commented:
January 11, 2013, 2:50 pm

i want the details on the new diesel engine offerings.
m8o commented:
January 13, 2013, 10:02 pm

Me wants a 330D vs. a 320D, but I won't hold my breath.
d geek commented:
January 14, 2013, 1:01 pm

Some good news!
Quote:
BMW also plans to introduce three new diesel models to the U.S. in 2013, in addition to the highly successful BMW X5 35d, which reported a sales increase of 39% last year to over 10,000 vehicles (10,276). The 4-cylinder diesel will premiere in the 3 Series Sedan and Touring and the new 6-cylinder diesel will make its debut in the 5 Series. For the first time ever in the U.S., diesel AWD will be offered in the BMW 5 Series.
link
TV88 commented:
January 14, 2013, 4:02 pm

Good news re: the diesel offerings, but any other news from NAIAS yet regarding pricing, availability and, most importantly, TRANSMISSION options?
JoeFromPA commented:
January 14, 2013, 4:18 pm

I'm even bowing out now on the manual option being a requirement, just give me some specs and a date i can get in and drive one....

P.s. going to the black tie philly auto show next weekend - if there's one there I'll climb in the trunk just to get a feel for the cargo room
d geek commented:
January 14, 2013, 5:41 pm

The info that came out in Sep of last year only listed the 8AT transmission to be offered with the US diesels.
And the 530xd is only available with the 8AT in the rest of the world.
altezza075 commented:
January 15, 2013, 11:25 am

Hi All

I just joined yesterday because i was planning on purchasing the 3 series wagon when its released. There is a small clip from Detroit on the 3 series wagon. Its announced as 328i x drive (same as previous generation). Hope more information comes out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41_mwuTWITQ
GT3Racerich commented:
January 15, 2013, 11:51 am

It's not going to be offered with X drive only I hope. Anyone know?
Rich
altezza075 commented:
January 15, 2013, 2:40 pm

Here is more info from Autotrader

http://www.autotrader.com/research/a...-auto-show.jsp

Looks like only 1 engine choice available and either rear or all wheel drive.
altezza075 commented:
January 15, 2013, 2:52 pm

Another Web site showed the 3 Series Touring will have a diesel option in the 2nd half of 2013. Not sure how legitimate this is.

The slide you see below was reportedly taken during a BMWNA meeting and it reveals the upcoming diesel model lineup and schedule:

• F30 3 Series sedan diesel - first half 2013
• F31 3 Series touring - second half 2013
• F10 5 Series diesel - third quarter 2013
• X5d diesel - end of 2013
• 7 Series diesel - first half 2014
• X3d diesel - first half 2014
dexter commented:
January 16, 2013, 4:34 pm

just had it confirmed by somebody who knows, the f31 diesel will be xdrive only.
d geek commented:
January 16, 2013, 5:20 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by dexter View Post
just had it confirmed by somebody who knows, the f31 diesel will be xdrive only.
I find it very hard to believe that BMW would have omitted that by mistake in the press release.

Quote:
Press Release

BMW Group aims for further growth in the U.S. in 2013
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Detroit. The BMW Group intends to grow in the U.S. in the current year. "We are confident that we will continue our success in our largest single market in 2013. Here and worldwide, we are expanding our global vehicle portfolio with attractive new models such as the BMW M6 Gran Coupé and the BMW 4 Series Coupé, said Ian Robertson, Member of the Board of BMW AG, Sales and Marketing BMW, on Monday at the North American International Auto Show (NAIAS) in Detroit. Last year, the BMW Group reported its best year ever in the United States with over 347,000 vehicles sold - an increase of 13.8%.

Worldwide, the BMW Group also expects sales to increase in 2013:
"We aspire to a sales increase again in 2013 and a new record in terms of deliveries, even if the conditions, particularly in some European markets are still challenging", said Robertson. The BMW Group sold more BMW, MINI and Rolls-Royce vehicles worldwide in 2012 than ever before in its history. A total of 1,845,186 (PY: 1,668,982) vehicles were delivered, an increase of 10.6% compared to the previous record in 2011.

The U.S. market is likely to continue to grow in the current year, according to Robertson: "In 2013 we expect a growth of approximately 5% in the total market to approximately 15 million units." Further growth at the BMW Group in the U.S. is expected to be driven through new products such as the BMW 320i and the BMW 3 Series Touring with xDrive in 2013. The BMW 3 Series accounts for almost half of all BMW vehicles sold in the U.S. and is also the market leader in its segment.

BMW also plans to introduce three new diesel models to the U.S. in 2013, in addition to the highly successful BMW X5 35d, which reported a sales increase of 39% last year to over 10,000 vehicles (10,276). The 4-cylinder diesel will premiere in the 3 Series Sedan and Touring and the new 6-cylinder diesel will make its debut in the 5 Series. For the first time ever in the U.S., diesel AWD will be offered in the BMW 5 Series.

The U.S. is home to the production of the BMW X3, X5 and X6 vehicles at Plant Spartanburg, South Carolina, which makes BMW the biggest vehicle exporter of North America to non-NAFTA countries. The Spartanburg plant achieved a new milestone and its largest annual production volume in its history in 2012 with 301,519 vehicles produced, a nearly 90% increase in production since the 2010 factory expansion. The capacity will be increased to 350,000 units over the medium term.
Yes they do say the F31 will be available with xDrive, but no mention of an F31 d with xDrive.
dexter commented:
January 16, 2013, 6:24 pm

More telling, they don't mention a F31 without xdrive. My info is correct, unfortunately...i was hoping to do Euro delivery in my diesel wagon, but I have no use for all wheel drive.
JoeFromPA commented:
January 17, 2013, 9:18 am

I need to understand the spec'ing of the diesel engine but I might find it very favorable in an AWD car. The ability to avoid DSC intervention due to the amount of torque makes daily driving much more pleasant and if we're talking about a 3-series wagon rocking decent power and low 30s fuel economy with AWD, then I'm very pleased and I will at least consider it if the automatic is quite good.
TV88 commented:
January 17, 2013, 12:09 pm

So it doesn't look good at all for a manual transmission from what I can tell.

It sure would be nice to be able to configure a wagon on the BMW site; does anyone know when we might be able to do so? Or at least have pricing info & availability (other than "Spring 2013")?
JoeFromPA commented:
January 18, 2013, 8:35 am

Dear BMW,

This Saturday I likely will be on a BMW dealer's lot buying a BMW wagon. Unfortunately for you, it will likely be pre-owned 535xit. I would LOVE the ability to test drive or at least examine an f3x wagon in mid-January 2013, perhaps at the black tie auto show in Philly tonight. But that seems unlikely, cause you just don't care about supporting your wagon. You'd rather introduce more lines of the sedan (i.e. 320i).

This is simply dissapointing. At least make the frigging model available on BMWUSA.com?? But no - I've been seeking more information since your automotive journalist test drives sponsored 7 months ago, and more information is simply not forthcoming.

Boo,

Joe
tim330i commented:
January 18, 2013, 9:32 am

We'll have more information about the wagon soon. It will be hitting dealerships in the same time frame as the 320i.

Tim
d geek commented:
January 18, 2013, 10:14 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeFromPA View Post
Dear BMW,

This Saturday I likely will be on a BMW dealer's lot buying a BMW wagon. Unfortunately for you, it will likely be pre-owned 535xit. I would LOVE the ability to test drive or at least examine an f3x wagon in mid-January 2013, perhaps at the black tie auto show in Philly tonight. But that seems unlikely, cause you just don't care about supporting your wagon. You'd rather introduce more lines of the sedan (i.e. 320i).

This is simply dissapointing. At least make the frigging model available on BMWUSA.com?? But no - I've been seeking more information since your automotive journalist test drives sponsored 7 months ago, and more information is simply not forthcoming.

Boo,

Joe
So because they don't release the car on your individual schedule they are doing something wrong?
d geek commented:
January 18, 2013, 5:44 pm

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Originally Posted by dexter View Post
More telling, they don't mention a F31 without xdrive. My info is correct, unfortunately...i was hoping to do Euro delivery in my diesel wagon, but I have no use for all wheel drive.
You may be correct after all. Our old diesel friend Saintor posted these pics from the Montreal Auto Show that show the F30 "328d" in xDrive form. Would not be surprised if they do the same with the F31.

Sounds good to me

edit: I'm very confused right now since the info on the display in Montreal conflicts with the press release info....
tim330i commented:
January 22, 2013, 1:14 pm

2013 F31 pricing was leaked at the Boston Auto Show -

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=671499

Tim
Byron Walter commented:
January 24, 2013, 3:35 pm

I'm looking to give the F31 a try. It's either that or an Audi allroad. Trouble is that I want the Audi with the 3.0t engine and that ain't happening. I've never cared for the SUV look and prefer the lower center of gravity of the f31/allroad vehicles. Also makes it mucho easier to get outdoor toys on and off the roof.
d geek commented:
February 3, 2013, 10:05 am

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Originally Posted by d geek View Post
You may be correct after all. Our old diesel friend Saintor posted these pics from the Montreal Auto Show that show the F30 "328d" in xDrive form. Would not be surprised if they do the same with the F31.

Sounds good to me

edit: I'm very confused right now since the info on the display in Montreal conflicts with the press release info....
Confirmation that it will be badged as 328d and will also be available with xDrive in both wagon (actually the 328d wagon will only come in xDrive) and sedan.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=674043
des16 commented:
February 3, 2013, 12:06 pm

I have been anxiously awaiting the arrival of the F31, and now that it is imminent, the news of the diesel option got me thinking of waiting for its arrival. I am a real fan of diesel, owning a Citron in France, which gets around 65 miles per gallon. That being said, the economics of diesel do not seem to make sense. If you compare the diesel vs petrol mpg on various BMW European websites it seems to be around 27% combined city/highway. However, assuming a price premium of the diesel over the 328xi of around $3500, and that diesel fuel costs around 10% more, it looks like it will take a lot of driving -- well in excess of 100,000 miles based on current prices -- before you hit the break-even point. Of course, this does not take into account the difference in the depreciation, which is uncertain. So, I can only conclude that the diesel option does not make sense in the US.
d geek commented:
February 3, 2013, 12:27 pm

I guess it depends on where you live. In these parts diesel is about 2 cents more than premium.
I'm guessing that the "328d" will be about the same as a 328i, based on price differentials of euro models.
des16 commented:
February 3, 2013, 12:50 pm

I hope you are correct about parity in pricing of diesel and the 328. But based on how Audi prices its products, as well as the announced premium for the new Jeep products, I expect that the diesel will be far more expensive. As for fuel prices, there is about a 10% price difference in my market. I should add that in France the diesel fuel is far less expensive -- therefore, over 90% of new car sales are diesel.
uter commented:
February 3, 2013, 1:23 pm

So, as I look at Jon's post today, am I correct that the F31 will only be in AWD form (gas and diesel)?

That's a real disappoitment if true.
GT3Racerich commented:
February 3, 2013, 2:15 pm

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Originally Posted by uter View Post
So, as I look at Jon's post today, am I correct that the F31 will only be in AWD form (gas and diesel)?

That's a real disappoitment if true.
I agree. Looking for RWD only.
Rich
JMK commented:
February 3, 2013, 2:26 pm

I was looking forward to RWD only as well. Bummer.
uter commented:
February 3, 2013, 3:01 pm

After all, the cost of an AWD to purchase and maintain is significantly higher.

Furthermore, in the E46 and E90 wagons, the AWD option meant that sport suspension wasn't the same as the RWD version (I had an E46 325xit with sport package, but it was really just a wheel and trim package). Will that be the case with the F31?

Hailing BMW NA: many consumers DO want real-wheel drive BMW wagons!
m8o commented:
February 3, 2013, 9:32 pm

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Originally Posted by d geek View Post
Confirmation that it will be badged as 328d and will also be available with xDrive in both wagon (actually the 328d wagon will only come in xDrive) and sedan. ...
If this will indeed be the exact same engine as is badged as the 320d in the rest of the world and re-badged as a 328d here just so BMW can charge the uninformed $2K - $3K more in North America ... that would be low ... hitting below the belt low. I suspect that will not go over well here on the boards. Fingers crossed that it miraculously grows another turbo in the few months between now and delivery so it has the performance worthy of being called a '28'.
ynguldyn commented:
February 4, 2013, 12:51 am

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Originally Posted by m8o View Post
If this will indeed be the exact same engine as is badged as the 320d in the rest of the world and re-badged as a 328d here just so BMW can charge the uninformed $2K - $3K more in North America ... that would be low ... hitting below the belt low. I suspect that will not go over well here on the boards. Fingers crossed that it miraculously grows another turbo in the few months between now and delivery so it has the performance worthy of being called a '28'.
It is 99% certain that 328d will be a rebadged 320d, and 535d will be a rebadged 530d.

What upsets me most is the fact that BMW did build four US spec 328d RWD cars (three US, one Canadian), with two more US scheduled to be built soon. So they are ready to give them to us. If they're not coming, only BMW NA is to blame.
d geek commented:
February 4, 2013, 6:55 am

The costs of obtaining Federal certification are not trivial. An automaker's market research indicates which model/drivetrain demand would justify the costs. Evidently BMW has decided that the market will support the AWD wagon version and this is a better profit for BMW. If the take rate is exceptional, then they will consider other drivetrains as well.

This is the highest number of diesel models they are offering to date. I'm glad about that.
gesoffen commented:
February 4, 2013, 7:16 am

Hey BMW NA - thanks for the wagon but can you please bring one with a 6MT!?!? Preferably with the diesel and RWD?!?!? I don't buy automatics.
ynguldyn commented:
February 4, 2013, 10:46 am

BMW built the following US spec RWD wagons for testing:

14 328iT auto
4 328iT manual
5 328dT auto
bzcat commented:
February 4, 2013, 5:20 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by m8o View Post
If this will indeed be the exact same engine as is badged as the 320d in the rest of the world and re-badged as a 328d here just so BMW can charge the uninformed $2K - $3K more in North America ... that would be low ... hitting below the belt low. I suspect that will not go over well here on the boards. Fingers crossed that it miraculously grows another turbo in the few months between now and delivery so it has the performance worthy of being called a '28'.
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Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
It is 99% certain that 328d will be a rebadged 320d, and 535d will be a rebadged 530d.

What upsets me most is the fact that BMW did build four US spec 328d RWD cars (three US, one Canadian), with two more US scheduled to be built soon. So they are ready to give them to us. If they're not coming, only BMW NA is to blame.
It is 100% certain 328d will not be rebadged European 320d.

The US model will require urea injection and will be tuned for more power due to lack of CO2 tax.

Same with 535d. Our model will surely use the same engine as the X5d, which is different from the rest of the world.
d geek commented:
February 4, 2013, 7:46 pm

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Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
It is 100% certain 328d will not be rebadged European 320d.

The US model will require urea injection and will be tuned for more power due to lack of CO2 tax.

Same with 535d. Our model will surely use the same engine as the X5d, which is different from the rest of the world.
100% certain?

look at these pics of the presentation given last July:
http://www.bimmerfile.com/2012/07/13...-coming-to-us/

Clearly shows which engines were being planned. And the power matches that of the 320d. Unless you have inside info that trumps this, we have nothing else to go on.

Blue performance option available in Europe is urea injection.

The engine in the current x5d is being replaced. The power output shown in the pic matches that of the Euro 530d with blue performance.

If you are a BMW insider than please share more detail than what we have already.
uter commented:
February 4, 2013, 9:39 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by d geek View Post
The costs of obtaining Federal certification are not trivial. An automaker's market research indicates which model/drivetrain demand would justify the costs. Evidently BMW has decided that the market will support the AWD wagon version and this is a better profit for BMW. If the take rate is exceptional, then they will consider other drivetrains as well.

This is the highest number of diesel models they are offering to date. I'm glad about that.
Yet there's an RWD option for the X1. How can we know take rate if they don't import it?
beemer4me commented:
February 9, 2013, 11:14 am

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Originally Posted by uter View Post
So, as I look at Jon's post today, am I correct that the F31 will only be in AWD form (gas and diesel)?

That's a real disappoitment if true.
I am also looking for a RWD only. My ideal car is a RWD 328d 6MT.
gesoffen commented:
February 10, 2013, 8:35 pm

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Originally Posted by beemer4me View Post
I am also looking for a RWD only. My ideal car is a RWD 328d 6MT.
Hey, that's my car! Well, the one I want to replace my e46 wagon anyway.
altezza075 commented:
February 23, 2013, 10:31 am

I went to Crevier BMW the other day to see when I can order the wagon.. Most likely they will get the order sheet in the next few weeks... I will post on here when i get.. Rear and All wheel drive will be available and the only trim is the 328. Other trims may be released but not in April. I didnt follow the pricing of the previous generation wagon but what was the difference in real and all wheel?
IndyMike commented:
February 23, 2013, 3:33 pm

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Originally Posted by altezza075 View Post
I went to Crevier BMW the other day to see when I can order the wagon.. Most likely they will get the order sheet in the next few weeks... I will post on here when i get.. Rear and All wheel drive will be available and the only trim is the 328. Other trims may be released but not in April. I didnt follow the pricing of the previous generation wagon but what was the difference in real and all wheel?
Not sure about 2012 models, but for 2011 the MSRP was $35,700 for the RWD variant and $37,700 for the AWD one. Wholesale price was $32,845 vs. 34,645, respectively so figure about a $2k real gap.
JT///M3 commented:
February 23, 2013, 5:38 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by altezza075 View Post
I went to Crevier BMW the other day to see when I can order the wagon.. Most likely they will get the order sheet in the next few weeks... I will post on here when i get.. Rear and All wheel drive will be available and the only trim is the 328. Other trims may be released but not in April. I didnt follow the pricing of the previous generation wagon but what was the difference in real and all wheel?
If you get one first, I'll have to check yours out neighbor!
dexter commented:
February 23, 2013, 9:28 pm

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Originally Posted by altezza075 View Post
Rear and All wheel drive will be available and the only trim is the 328.
Sounds like the folks at Crevier haven't been doing their homework.
altezza075 commented:
February 24, 2013, 8:33 am

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Originally Posted by dexter View Post
Sounds like the folks at Crevier haven't been doing their homework.
What do you mean on that statement??
altezza075 commented:
February 24, 2013, 8:45 am

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Originally Posted by JT///M3 View Post
If you get one first, I'll have to check yours out neighbor!
oh yeah! i am hoping to have sometime in the summer.. im sure red will be a special order..
Jason66 commented:
February 24, 2013, 9:17 am

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Originally Posted by altezza075 View Post
What do you mean on that statement??
I think he's referring to the RWD comment. At this time the F31 is only available with xDrive (both 2013 and 2014 models).

The Pricing Guide is also already available. Here's the one provided by Jon@Bimmerfest:
dexter commented:
February 24, 2013, 12:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Galt View Post
I think he's referring to the RWD comment.
Yes, I am.
JT///M3 commented:
February 24, 2013, 1:00 pm

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Originally Posted by altezza075 View Post
oh yeah! i am hoping to have sometime in the summer.. im sure red will be a special order..
Cool!! I'll be doing ED for our Estoril MSport in Sept! We'll have to do a photo shoot after we both have ours.
Byron Walter commented:
February 24, 2013, 2:46 pm

I just returned from the Cleveland Car Show and I'd like to show some shots of the new F31 but... I can't as the F31 was not to be seen. Dirty buggers.

Hoped to also get up close and personal with the new Corvette but appartently it was off in the hinterlands along with the F31.
altezza075 commented:
February 25, 2013, 8:33 pm

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Originally Posted by JT///M3 View Post
Cool!! I'll be doing ED for our Estoril MSport in Sept! We'll have to do a photo shoot after we both have ours.
That would be great... looking forward.. alittle disappointed that rear is not being introduced but i have to wait and see..
stoked335d commented:
February 27, 2013, 12:26 am

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Originally Posted by Galt View Post
I think he's referring to the RWD comment. At this time the F31 is only available with xDrive (both 2013 and 2014 models).

The Pricing Guide is also already available. Here's the one provided by Jon@Bimmerfest:
Thanks for the pricing info. Correct me if I am wrong but in order to get winter pkg must buy leather for $1450 or $2000 premium pkg. This is going to make one expensive winter wagon.
Jason66 commented:
February 27, 2013, 8:51 am

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Originally Posted by stoked335d View Post
... in order to get winter pkg must buy leather for $1450 or $2000 premium pkg. This is going to make one expensive winter wagon.
Yes, that's correct. On both points!
chuck92116 commented:
February 27, 2013, 9:02 am

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Originally Posted by Chris90 View Post
I kinda like it! Don't usually like BMW wagons.

My problem is BMWs are too nice to do wagon- type stuff with. We bought a Subaru Outback for that, don't mind getting it dirty, taking it into the mud etc.
I suppose those driving X3's think the same thing about the Cayenne GTS.

The price point at which someone entertains a car purchase for the purpose of taking it into the "mud" is subjective. Remember BMWs are taxi cabs elsewhere. The mystique they have in the U.S. is a very successful marketing program spanning many decades. American consumers are easily swayed by good marketing.

BMW
Google
Apple
Designer clothes designed in Italy and made in China and Indonesia :ROFL: but yeah it is authentic.
VIZSLA commented:
February 27, 2013, 9:23 am

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Originally Posted by chuck92116 View Post
I suppose those driving X3's think the same thing about the Cayenne GTS.

The price point at which someone entertains a car purchase for the purpose of taking it into the "mud" is subjective. Remember BMWs are taxi cabs elsewhere. The mystique they have in the U.S. is a very successful marketing program spanning many decades. American consumers are easily swayed by good marketing.

BMW
Google
Apple
Designer clothes designed in Italy and made in China and Indonesia :ROFL: but yeah it is authentic.
Well said.

Hype aside, each of the above can provide excellent products or services.
altezza075 commented:
March 7, 2013, 11:13 am

Crevier called me yesterday and said orders on the wagon started. I will be calling in today to find out whats available.
3mmv278 commented:
March 7, 2013, 7:37 pm

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Originally Posted by altezza075 View Post
Crevier called me yesterday and said orders on the wagon started. I will be calling in today to find out whats available.
Hey if you can share some insight and info that would be great. I've been trying to get info on release dates or any info possible. I have a lease ending in May so trying to figure out what to do.

Thanks
JT///M3 commented:
March 7, 2013, 8:18 pm

Let me know if brochures are available yet. I'll have my buddy pick one up hahha
GT3Racerich commented:
March 27, 2013, 3:53 pm

The wagon is now on the BMW Web Site. It looks like it is only available in All Wheel Drive. Very bad news for me. My wife and I were looking forward to picking one up in Munich but only in rear wheel drive. We will have to decide on another car.
Rich
JT///M3 commented:
March 27, 2013, 5:34 pm

I think overall the lack of choices and ability to order your car the way you like it is going to hurt BMW sales somewhat.
zolabmw commented:
March 27, 2013, 8:26 pm

I cannot monitor all the threads but every time I see discussions on the forum of the X versus the equivalent 1, 3 or 5 series, it seems a very high ratio clearly prefer the non-X version. As the prior owner of a 2002 E46 5 MT touring and now a 2007 E61 6MT and a 2010 E61 6 MT, it is really depressing that the new F31 is only available as an x drive and 8AT. Clearly BMW wants to kill it off.

Sad - but true - another sign - now MT and AT are the same price for the F30, though clearly the cost of the 8AT is more.

We know that MT buyers are less common than AT buyers - but BMW is quite happy to balkanize buyers in other ways with Sport, Modern and whatever lines...........
floydarogers commented:
March 27, 2013, 10:00 pm

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Originally Posted by zolabmw View Post
I cannot monitor all the threads but every time I see discussions on the forum of the X versus the equivalent 1, 3 or 5 series, it seems a very high ratio clearly prefer the non-X version. ...
For the 3-series wagon, your statement is not correct. I found sales figures (at one time - can't seem to find them again) that showed the xDrive wagon had at least as many sales as the RWD wagon.
Byron Walter commented:
March 28, 2013, 11:18 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by zolabmw View Post
I cannot monitor all the threads but every time I see discussions on the forum of the X versus the equivalent 1, 3 or 5 series, it seems a very high ratio clearly prefer the non-X version. As the prior owner of a 2002 E46 5 MT touring and now a 2007 E61 6MT and a 2010 E61 6 MT, it is really depressing that the new F31 is only available as an x drive and 8AT. Clearly BMW wants to kill it off.

Sad - but true - another sign - now MT and AT are the same price for the F30, though clearly the cost of the 8AT is more.

We know that MT buyers are less common than AT buyers - but BMW is quite happy to balkanize buyers in other ways with Sport, Modern and whatever lines...........
You can bet that if BMW execs wanted to kill off NA sales of the F31, they might be looking for new jobs. Their goals include maximizing sales and profits. Volumes on the F31 probably just don't justify a range of configurations. The one they presently provide is probably the most economically viable configuration.

Also you probably can't judge the ratio of rwd/awd buyers by what you read here because we are only a small percentage of the NA market and are more of an enthusiast site.

I know that I was a hard core manual fanatic until Audi 'forced' me to buy an Avant with an AT. The AT wasn't so bad and after about nine months I actually started to like it (especially during the several times I had to drive through Toronto).

That experience led to an Audi TTS with the DSG, which I really liked and always drove in the 'manual' mode.

Anyhow I am now agnostic on transmissions but can appreciate that many here will cling to their shift knobs till hell freezes over.

In some respects, BMW is making a leap with even attempting to sell the F31 in NA. In NA the 'station wagon' is the automotive equivalent of a snake in the way people react... yeewwww!... a station wagon... kill it... while a few of us think that some snakes (I mean wagons) are functional and attractive.
3mmv278 commented:
May 23, 2013, 4:35 pm

Do most you even know how the xDrive system actually works?
Byron Walter commented:
May 23, 2013, 5:52 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3mmv278 View Post
Do most you even know how the xDrive system actually works?
I've had a bunch of Audis with the Torsen center diff and I had an okay lay person's knowledge about its inner workings but I'm (as usual) clueless about the xDrive set up.
tim330i commented:
May 23, 2013, 5:53 pm

Mode Year (MY) 2014 BMW F31 3 Series Sport Wagon retail pricing and ordering guides now available!
reidconti commented:
May 23, 2013, 6:10 pm

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Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
Mode Year (MY) 2014 BMW F31 3 Series Sport Wagon retail pricing and ordering guides now available!
Thanks! Only $1500 for the 328xd over the 328xi, not bad.

There was a lot of grousing about how BMW was gonna charge $4000 more than the gas engine to get the same diesel as the 320d in europe.. but then again, the 320d in europe has a lot less standard equipment.
ynguldyn commented:
May 23, 2013, 9:22 pm

F31 is holding its price for the rest of 2014, while F30s get more expensive. Also, F31 gets free 2TB sports auto with paddles. This means that the price differential between F30 and F31 is now significantly smaller.
altezza075 commented:
November 30, 2013, 11:40 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by JT///M3 View Post
If you get one first, I'll have to check yours out neighbor!

i just ordered mine today. 328d Silver/ Red Sport Package. BMW of Riverside said I should have end of January. Did you get yours yet neighbor??
JT///M3 commented:
December 1, 2013, 1:02 am

Not yet but ended up picking up a 328i MSport for the wife. Still deciding if I want to part ways with my M5 and get a more sensible family car...may wait to the LCI refresh before I make the plunge. I wish they wouls offer the sport cloth interior and the 6 cylinder diesel version here. That would really be a torque monster in F31 configuration.

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msej449 commented:
February 28, 2014, 12:17 pm

OK, so I've had my 330d Touring xDrive 5 months now, and driven it in a variety of conditions. So for anyone interested, here is my Review. Let me say this is a UK version, so some of the option packs will be different (but contents listed here), or unavailable (e.g. window tinting) in the US. apologies if this isn't the right thread, but it's the one with the most recent postings.
Overall I'm very pleased with the fantastic engine and great 8-speed auto. plus carrying-capacity combined with interior comfort. The only thing I might replace it with when the financing ends is a 2-Series Active Tourer.
AS for the spec and options, I'm not saying these will be perfect for everyone. But I hope the comments will be useful for anyone having to make choices.
_________________________________

330d SE Touring xDrive: First 5 months.

BMW 3 Series Touring
330d straight-six turbo-diesel
Sports Automatic Transmission
xDrive

Wheels & Tyres
Summer: Style V-Spoke 395 - Front 7.5J x 17" 225/50 R17 RF - Rear 8.5J x 17" 255/45 R17 RF
Winter: Style V-Spoke 413 - Pirelli Sottozero™ Serie II RF - Front 7.5J x 17" 225/50 R17 RF - Rear 7.5J x 17" 225/50 R17 RF +Chains

Interior
FLCDF Venetian Beige Dakota Leather
S04AB Burr Walnut Wood Trim

Packages
S0ZVI Visibilty (High-beam Assist; Adaptive Headlights; Headlight Wash; Xenons)
S0ZIC Interior Comfort (Storage; Split-fold rear Seats; Interior Lights; Head Restraints)
S0ZNB Media BMW Business (Teleservices; Emergency Call; Business SatNav)
S0ZAP Advanced Parking (Park Assist; PDC F/R; Reversing Camera)

Options
S0676 BMW Advanced Loudspeakers
S0430 External folding & auto-dim mirrors
S0482 Panoramic Glass Sunroof
S0420 Sun Protection / security glass
S03AP Grey band windscreen shade
S04AE Front armrest
S0459 Electric Front Seats & Driver Memory
S0488 Lumbar Support
S0494 Front Seat Heating
S0496 Rear Seat Heating
S0481 Front Sports Seats
S0248 Steering Wheel Heating

Accessories
[36 112 220 163] Style V-Spoke 413 Winter Wheels & Tyres
[36 112 296 312] Set of snow chains for 225/50R17 (rear)
[82 712 295 099] Roof Rack – BMW base support system, lockable
[63 310 432 670] Rechargeable LED torch

Summary

It’s now close to 5 months since I got my new BMW 330d SE Touring xDrive, replacing an Audi A3 Sportsback Black Edition 170. Highlights have been the hugely better ride and relaxed driving on the 8-Speed auto, offering easy driving on long journeys, with instant power when needed. Lowlights have been around the ridiculous Bluetooth (non) music streaming and (non) availability of any useful apps. Regrets? Perhaps over not getting the head-up display (HUD) and whether the electric sports seats, lumbar and heating were really worth the cost. I’ve been Impressed by the adaptive headlights that turn with the steering, and frankly astonished by how well the high beam assist and adaptive lights work on dark cross-country roads. Definitely a convert to paddles, even if they’re just an alternative to kick-down for overtaking. Rueful about the lovely beige leather interior (the floor mats aren’t going to survive the winter).

Glad I got xDrive when driving over the Jura Mountains en route to the Alps, and very happy with the neutral xDrive handling after the FWD antics of the Audi. Price was fine: you can get a new A3 Sportsback Quattro up to the £40K mark by specifying a similar range of options, and that’s just a 2.0L diesel or 1.8L Petrol engine.

I’d recommend the straight-six 3.0L diesel plus Sports Auto as the basic choice, if at all possible, and then see what else you can afford. The Xenons and Adapative lights would be next on the list. If you endure extreme winter weather and/or drive to your skiing regularly, then I’d put xDrive in as a basic requirement, but I don’t see the point unless you also go for winter wheels and tyre package as well. Go for 18” summer wheels, or 19” if you strongly prefer handling over ride. I think that tinting of the rear windows is a big security aid. The sunroof makes the interior light and airy, especially in dull weather. The beige upholstery is similarly refreshing, but get a set of darker carpets for winter.

What’s Good

The ride is better than I could have hoped for and puts the standard Audi bone-jarring, lowered suspension, low-profile-wheels configuration into the shade. Long journeys in this car are so, so much better than in the Audi. And in ‘real’ UK pothole-riven daily driving, the same applies.

The 8-Speed Sports Auto is a dream. The car quietly sits around 1500rpm and you don’t notice the changes. The combination of paddles and sports auto works very well – allowing easy change-down for overtaking etc.

I’d go for the 3.0L diesel again, over the 4-cyl options. It’s worth the extra.

I think that the BMW Winter Wheels and Tyres offerings are good for those who use the car for Alpine trips and/or who are likely to encounter bad winter weather.

Glad I got the sun(moon)roof. This makes the whole interior much brighter and airy. Especially for the rear passengers.

The combination of Adaptive Headlights and High-beam Assist is terrific. If you have to choose between the two, get the former.

In retrospect

I’d opt for 18” summer wheels rather than 17", trading some ride comfort for more agility.

I would go for the HUD. Not just because of the viewpoint but because the HUD’s navigation graphics (which also appear on the central SatNav screen) are more clear and accurate than the spoken directions.

I’m not sure whether the whole panoply of electric seats, lumbar support and sports seats was worth it. Especially since I can’t seem to get the seat memory to work in tandem with our two ignition keys. I’d say not if you’re going to hand the car back after a lease, but yes if you plan to hold on to it.

Biggest Frustrations?

Bluetooth Audio Streaming (or lack of): A £40K+ car and I can’t use the Bluetooth for music (although I can for ‘phone calls) – I have to buy a £48 cable from BMW or £7 equivalent from Amazon. Or a £150 docking station.

Apps (or lack of): A £40K+ car and there are basically no Apps enabled (such as fuel status, MPG analytics, remote pre-ventilation, location, etc.). I have to spend another £1,000 to get these. £4.95 for a BMW App would be OK - £1,000 isn’t. Get real, BMW: trying to make money this way just pisses customers off.

SatNav: A £900 SatNav and I don’t get real-time traffic updates. (you guessed it, only in the £1,900 SatNav version).

The fuel tank is small at 50L – this gives only around 500 miles on a full tank. I’m used to 700+ on my A3.

The SatNav voice calling a motorway slip-road or junction a “street”. Even in the original German, I can’t imagine these are called “Straße”.

We just haven’t been able to get the seat memory to work with the ignition keys.

SatNav & HUD

The voice directions are usually fine 95% of the time, but just too often they’re ambiguous (some Y-junctions, for example) or plain wrong.

What is spot-on is the oblong graphic that’s also on the HUD if you have one. If I have a passenger as navigator, we’ll usually turn the voice off and refer to the graphic at key points.

I often put my current location in as a contact after visiting a new customer for the first time. This can be hard to find in the menus – the location is counter-intuitive.

BMW: Why don’t you?

o Provide one £1,500 ‘SatNav, Software & Apps’ option, and enable all the Apps and services if this is chosen. Dispense with the intermediate SatNav.

o Enable Bluetooth audio streaming as standard?

o Have a set of video guides on YouTube for owners?

o Generate a bespoke Owner’s Manual, using the options chosen by the customer? Or have it available on-line.

o Give all customers the ‘free’ plug-in torch and tell them it can be charged under the glove compartment or in the rear passenger console.
altezza075 commented:
April 27, 2014, 7:10 am

late on the reply but i picked up my wagon 2 months ago..
uter commented:
April 27, 2014, 7:30 pm

Looks stellar


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iconoclast commented:
July 10, 2014, 4:36 pm

Any F31 Galleries or photo threads? I placed a deposit on one today and going to see it, drive it and decide Saturday morning.
Coming from an X5M I am going to have to instantly increase the power and fun of this vehicle and would like to see what others have done.