The BMW M3 gives you a lot of confidence behind the wheel. In this case little Billy (or whatever his name is) had more confidence in his E46 M3 then the laws of physics allowed for. It looks like the front wheels got light going over the crest of the hill and he failed to increase steering angle or really do much to attempt to correct before slamming into the rocks. Thankfully, thought the wonders of GoPro, we can all enjoy his spectacular failure. I can't say I'm surprised at the outcome, young driver and a high powered M3 is a recipe for an accident. I'm just glad he wasn't hurt.
Driver Description:
"Well it happened at South Mountain park in Phoenix AZ. One of my buddies and I were out just having fun and driving until I came up on a deceptive corner, misjudged it and it happened. No injuries. The car was a total loss. Misjudgment of the road caused the accident."
Right, that's why many people crash somewhere near home because they know the road very well... just tried little bit more than should have.
Anyway should have some common sense and not get crazy on unknown road.
Here in countryside we still have many roads where speedlimit is just nominal and most cars and drivers can not do it all the time without slowing down in turns.
I'm unsure if he has attended a proper driving school or just ignorant. Whatever happened to grip the wheel at 9 and 3 o'clock? The driver does have weird seating & steering position.
well im 16 so i guess i cant talk, but i saved up a ton of money to buy my dads car.. didnt have close to enough.. luckily all the hard work he saw i was doing and i would assume my good grades let me have it for 5200! an 04 330ci, 5200! anyway even though i got a fantastic deal on it, that car means everything to me. that is most likely the opposite with this guy and his M3 which he probably didnt pay a penny for and has no idea how expensive these cars are to keep up, so he drives all over the road like a maniac thinking hes cool, and this is what happens.. i just dont get that. i like driving those curvy roads just like any other guy would, but riding the double yellow like its a roller coaster, sitting way far back and having to lean forward to turn? thats just stupid..
The amusing thing about this crash is that he's driving the South Mountain in Phoenix. It's only about 10 miles south to the Bondurant school at Firebird Raceway.
Of course there's no guarantee he would actually listen and learn something from one of their courses...:dunno:
Best way to teach any kid below 25 to drive is to get them a crashable and safe underpowered beater. Any Volvo box type early model sample from the early 90s will do. Alternatives are Mercedes C or BMW E30 Series from the late 80s early 90s. Not a lot of electronic nannies or power luxuries, actually requires driving feel. Plus crashing is inevitable, might as well be a really safe car.
Such a shame. But that's what youth is about. He got stupid, got lucky, and the question now is whether he learns. At least he blamed his judgement, not the car.
On the upside, there are still young ones who care about doing it right. I had an involved discussion with a 16 yr old who wanted to know. Weight transfer, eye discipline, entry and exit points, lines, everything. He obviously won't absorb it all at once, and needs wheel time, but the desire to learn is there. He even wants to drive a stick, bless him!
GV I want it! Actually just spent half the night on Craigslist looking. I'm somewhere between a BMW K1200GT and a Road Glide... But maybe a K1200S... Can you tour on a Hayabusa?
GV I want it! Actually just spent half the night on Craigslist looking. I'm somewhere between a BMW K1200GT and a Road Glide... But maybe a K1200S... Can you tour on a Hayabusa?
Hell yes! Check this out. I think it qualifies as the most interesting application of a Hayabusa.
I rode my Beemer all over Europe and I really wanted a Ducati Diavel to replace it, but I figured that if I rode a 162 HP, 462 lb bike in this country, it would only be a matter of time before I became a grease spot on the highway.
3. if you watch that crash in slow motion the protection provided by the M3 is AWESOME. this little twerp should at least have some cactus or gravel in his eyes, much less a big chunk of rock. he just walks away. hopefully his parents are good for a new M3 next week for him to wreck.
I sold my SV650s last year. I'm looking for an R1200, but it's a bit big for me and maybe an F800 would be better. But I hope to do some long distance, and the bigger bike would be better on the super slab.
One thing is for sure, being without a bike is no fun.
The *only* thing the video shows is a deceptive curve, a car going fast, and the driver missing the curve. It shows nothing about the many side issues raised here.
I am glad he is Ok, and I am impressed by the safety of the BMW.
I can't sit here and claim to have never had a close call in my bimmer due to my own error.
It really isn't the kid's fault actually and it has nothing to do with how he acquired that car. It has everything to do with his inexperience and the lack of foresight of his parents for not requiring he do more than the bare minimum to obtain his license.
Our system in the US for getting a driver license is seriously broken. This same kid living in Europe would have gone thru extensive training and paid a substantial amount of money for the privilege of obtaining his driver license to operate a motor vehicle on public roads. Here in the US you answer 30-40 grade 8 questions on a test and drive down a side street with an examiner in your car. If you don't hit anything or kill anyone, you're good to go!
It is up to us as thinking people to realize that and seek out additional training so events like this don't happen. BMW owners have many opportunities for this training by attending events put on by your local BMWCCA chapter, or attending a Tire Rack Street Survival School if you're 16-19 years old.
IMO, advanced training should be a requirement of all drivers in the US, just like European drivers get. I donate my time to our local chapter several times a year to work with students to understand vehicle dynamics, vision skills, collision avoidance maneuvers, and teach them how to recover when everything goes wrong. It's better to do that in a huge parking lot than get air born on a back road in Arizona, don't ya think?
It really isn't the kid's fault actually and it has nothing to do with how he acquired that car. It has everything to do with his inexperience and the lack of foresight of his parents for not requiring he do more than the bare minimum to obtain his license.
Our system in the US for getting a driver license is seriously broken. This same kid living in Europe would have gone thru extensive training and paid a substantial amount of money for the privilege of obtaining his driver license to operate a motor vehicle on public roads. Here in the US you answer 30-40 grade 8 questions on a test and drive down a side street with an examiner in your car. If you don't hit anything or kill anyone, you're good to go!
It is up to us as thinking people to realize that and seek out additional training so events like this don't happen. BMW owners have many opportunities for this training by attending events put on by your local BMWCCA chapter, or attending a Tire Rack Street Survival School if you're 16-19 years old.
IMO, advanced training should be a requirement of all drivers in the US, just like European drivers get. I donate my time to our local chapter several times a year to work with students to understand vehicle dynamics, vision skills, collision avoidance maneuvers, and teach them how to recover when everything goes wrong. It's better to do that in a huge parking lot than get air born on a back road in Arizona, don't ya think?
[/QUOTE]To quote a comedian (the name slips my mind): "Money doesn't buy happiness." That's bull. Money buys Sea-Doos. Ever seen a legitimately pissed off person on a Sea-Doo? Thought so.[/QUOTE]
Kid clearly has no control over the car, drives like his plating a NFS game , except you don't just respond in the middle of road here
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