2014 BMW 3 Series Pricing and Ordering Guides

by Tim Jones on May 23, 2013, 11:05 am
2014 BMW 3 and 4 series details

Model Year 2014 3 Series sedan, wagon and GTs and 4 series coupe rolling off the assembly line starting in July. Everyone wants to know what the pricing and changes are for the coming model year (MY) F30 and what we can expect from the all new 4 series coupe F32.

My 2014 3 Series Sedan, Sport Wagon and GT Info

For MY 2014, the following features are standard:
  • Sport leather steering wheel
  • Dark Burl Walnut wood trim
  • BMW Assist eCall
  • BMW TeleServices

Lines for 2014
As of MY 2014, the Modern Line is discontinued. The Line offer will now consist of Sport Line, Luxury Line and M Sport. Other Line changes include:
  • Fineline Anthracite wood trim (4CE) is now a no-charge option on Sport Line
  • Dakota leather Everest Grey is discontinued on Sport Line

What's New for Options & Packages
  • The Technology Package (ZTP) now includes the next generation Navigation Professional System (iDrive 4.2) with touchpad, as well as Advanced Real Time Traffic Information, BMW Online, Remote Services, BMW Apps (for iOS and Android), Enhanced USB and Bluetooth plus Smartphone Integration and an instrument cluster with extended content. Pricing is $3,150.
  • Driver Assistance Package (ZDA) now includes PDC (508) and rear-view camera (3AG), at a price of $950. As a consequence, both options are no longer offered as stand-alone.
  • Driver Assistance Plus Package (ZDB) now includes Active Blind Spot Detection (5AG), Side and Top View Cameras (5DL), Active Driving Assistant (5AS) and Speed Limit Information (8TH), for a price of $1,900.
  • The stand-alone Navigation (609) option now includes the touchpad, Advanced Real Time Traffic Information, BMW Online, Remote Services, BMW Apps (for iOS and Android), Enhanced USB and Bluetooth plus Smartphone Integration as well as the extended digital instrument cluster. The price of the option is unchanged at $2,150.
  • Active Cruise Control with Stop & Go (5DF), previously priced $2,400, is now available for $1,200.
  • New option Concierge Services (6AN) available for $250.
  • BMW Apps (6NR) is no longer available as stand-alone, but bundled with Technology Package or Navigation.
  • Side and Top View Cameras (5DL) is available as a stand-alone option for $750.
  • New option M Sport Brakes (2NH) is now available for $650.

Pricing increase for Model year 2014
  • 328i pricing increase of $250
  • 335i pricing increase of $50
  • Destination and handling increased from $895 to $925
** Increased prices are reflected in pricing sheets

Pricing increases on October 1st 2014
  • 320i price increase of $200
  • 320i xDrive price increase of $200
  • 328i price increase of $200
  • 328i xDrive price increase of $200
  • 335i price increase of $200
  • 335i xDrive price increase of $200
  • Adtive Hybrid 3 price increase of $200
** Increased prices are reflected in pricing sheets


Model Year 2014 3 Series Pricing Guides
Model Year 2014 3 Series Ordering Guides
My 2014 4 Series Coupe Info

BMW 4 Series F32

The all-new BMW 4 Series Coupe marks the beginning of a new era for coupes at BMW. Launched as the latest generation of BMW's sporty mid-size Coupe, the new BMW 4 Series Coupe embodies the very essence of dynamics and aesthetic appeal in the premium segment. The "4" in its title headlines this new product line for the Coupe and emphasizes not only its stand-out design, but that any way you look at it, the new 4 Series Coupe represents something more than its BMW 3 Series cousins 3+1, if you will. At the same time, as a true BMW Coupe, the new nomenclature brings the new BMW 4 Series Coupe in line with the larger 6 Series and 8 Series Coupes.

Model Year 2014 4 Series Pricing Guides
Model Year 2014 4 Series Order Forms
My 2014 4 Series Convertible Info

BMW 4 Series convertible F33

The new BMW 4 Series Convertible will be offered in the US as both a 428i, featuring BMW's award-winning TwinPower Turbo 2.0-liter 4-cylinder and as a 435i with the multi-award winning TwinPower Turbo 3.0-liter inline six. Both will feature a standard 8-speed sport automatic transmission. The 428i Convertible will be offered with a choice of rear-wheel drive or with optional xDrive, BMW's intelligent all-wheel drive system, while the 435i Convertible will be available at launch with rear wheel drive. The 2014 BMW 428i Convertible will have a base MSRP of $49,675, and the 2014 BMW 435i Convertible will have a starting price of $55,825. Both prices include $925 destination and handling. The 2014 BMW 4 Series Convertible will arrive in US showrooms in the first quarter of 2014.

Read all about the new 4 Series Convertible here

Model Year 2014 4 Series Convertible Pricing Guides
Model Year 2014 4 Series Convertible Order Forms

More information on the 2014 4 series


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133 responses to 2014 BMW 3 Series Pricing and Ordering Guides

Technic commented:
May 23, 2013, 11:08 am

The copy and paste is missing the HUD as part of the ZTP...
Robert A commented:
May 23, 2013, 11:12 am

Can't say I'm surprised to see Modern go.
tim330i commented:
May 23, 2013, 11:13 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by Technic View Post
The copy and paste is missing the HUD as part of the ZTP...
HUD was part of ZTP in 2013 - http://www.bimmerfest.com/pdf/2013-BMW-F30-Retail.pdf
justinnum1 commented:
May 23, 2013, 11:36 am

m sport brakes for 650? damn. is tht just blue paint or the actual m performance brakes.
760Lifan commented:
May 23, 2013, 11:53 am

Could it be that some info on page 6 of 13 of the F30-guide containing additional info about the M-Line has been cut off?
tim330i commented:
May 23, 2013, 11:56 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by 760Lifan View Post
Could it be that some info on page 6 of 13 of the F30-guide containing additional info about the M-Line has been cut off?
If you're looking at the 13 page doc then that is the one right from BMW, so no.

Tim
760Lifan commented:
May 23, 2013, 12:11 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
If you're looking at the 13 page doc then that is the one right from BMW, so no.

Tim
Thanks!

I was just curious because with all the other lines, it tells you at the end of the line content which order restrictions each package/line has - i.e. "ZMM can't be ordered with ZSL". Although that's obvious, I wanted to find out if ZMM on the MY14 F30 is going to delete the standard 520 Foglights. It probably will but the info is simply missing with ZMM.
AzWildcatG commented:
May 23, 2013, 12:14 pm

"Lines for 2014
As of MY 2014, the Modern Line is discontinued. The Line offer will now consist of Sport Line, Luxury Line and M Sport. Other Line changes include:
Fineline Anthracite wood trim (4CE) is now a no-charge option on Sport Line
Dakota leather Everest Grey is discontinued on Sport Line"

Both the Anthracite wood and Everest Grey are on my car. Paid an upgrade for the Anthracite and love it. Very classy!

"Pricing increase for 2014
328i pricing increase of $250
335i pricing increase of $50
Destination and handling increased from $895 to $925"

The price increase on the Destination Change is happening now! My 328i factory order that I just picked up two days ago had the higher rate. The dealership quote/print out had the lower rate and the lower rate was used.

BTW, my factory order Sportline arrived with chrome exhaust tips. I wonder if the black chrome exhaust tips are now discontinued now and for MY2014.
foxmccleod commented:
May 23, 2013, 1:10 pm

According to the updated F31 pricing guide, leather is included for free on the luxury line, but not on sport or msport. Any idea if this is a mistake? I would think so, but they note it multiple times as no charge for luxury line.

Leather Dakota in combination with ZLL...NC

It also shows everest grey as a no charge option for the 328d while it is noted as discontinued for the 328i as of 6/13. I assume this is another mistake, though I would love it if this is actually the case.
d geek commented:
May 23, 2013, 1:35 pm

Thanks for sharing this Tim
tim330i commented:
May 23, 2013, 2:12 pm

2014 F30 3 series sedan, wagon and GT ordering guides added to first post. Should answer most questions in this thread.

Tim
tim330i commented:
May 23, 2013, 2:18 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by 760Lifan View Post
Thanks!

I was just curious because with all the other lines, it tells you at the end of the line content which order restrictions each package/line has - i.e. "ZMM can't be ordered with ZSL". Although that's obvious, I wanted to find out if ZMM on the MY14 F30 is going to delete the standard 520 Foglights. It probably will but the info is simply missing with ZMM.
It still does -

Quote:
ZMM will delete STD or 100% equipment 520
The 2014 F30 order guides have been posted in the first post -

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=698219

Tim
smallseafishie commented:
May 23, 2013, 2:56 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by foxmccleod View Post
According to the updated F31 pricing guide, leather is included for free on the luxury line, but not on sport or msport. Any idea if this is a mistake?
Not a mistake. There is small print that says ZLL requires ordering ZPP. So you are forced to pay for the premium package when ordering ZLL...
tim330i commented:
May 23, 2013, 3:47 pm

320i retail pricing and ordering guide added!
Technic commented:
May 23, 2013, 4:02 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
HUD is still part of the ZTP in 2014... 609 + 610 = ZTP
ktula commented:
May 23, 2013, 4:45 pm

So the only differences that i can tell between the standard equipments in the updated pricing guide for F31 made on or after 07/13 and those before are the $500 option sport automatic transmission with paddle shifters and sport leather steering wheel. And for that, the base MSRP went up $1395 for European Delivery and $1500 for US delivery. So for making these two options - i am guessing most don't use or need it - standard, you have to cough up at least an additional $1395.

UPDATE:

Read the wrong column (328d) for pricing. Ignore what I wrote above.
JoeFromPA commented:
May 23, 2013, 8:44 pm

Shrinking the difference in price between 328i and 335i by another $200 - interesting. Also surprising the n55 continues on with it's current power ratings/no changes to engine in the 3rd year on the f30. and ~5th year in production.
760Lifan commented:
May 23, 2013, 8:52 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
It still does -

ZMM will delete STD or 100% equipment 520

The 2014 F30 order guides have been posted in the first post -

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=698219

Tim
Thanks!

Now I can see what the problem is. The ORDER guide shows the exclusions for the M-Line and the PRICING guide has it cut off.
ynguldyn commented:
May 23, 2013, 9:17 pm

F34 costs the same as F31 - really surprising considering $1.5K price differential in Europe.
F31 328dX can get the 2NH brakes, but they're not available for F30 328d(X). Weird.
F31 gets free shift paddles (compared to the pre-07/13 pricing) - nice $500 savings.
MZZZ NC commented:
May 23, 2013, 10:50 pm

F34 only available with the added weight and complexity of AWD? That's disappointing.
arktctr commented:
May 24, 2013, 1:22 pm

As the title shows, do the brakes with the Standard M Sport dust less, equal or more than the optional upgraded M Sport Brakes (newly available in the US for MY 2014)? If anyone knows the answer that would be great. Thanks!
chris328 commented:
May 24, 2013, 1:38 pm

can anyone confirm if there is an m-sport brake delete option for the m-sport package.
chris328 commented:
May 24, 2013, 1:41 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by arktctr View Post
As the title shows, do the brakes with the Standard M Sport dust less, equal or more than the optional upgraded M Sport Brakes (newly available in the US for MY 2014)? If anyone knows the answer that would be great. Thanks!
i was under the impression that the m-sport package comes with the m-sport brakes by default (perhaps you are thinking of the m performance brakes). i would like to know if you can order the m-sport package with standard (less dust) brakes.

back with my 2008 the brake dust was absolutely horrendous, i had to clean the wheels every 2 days. it was the worst part of the car, other than the orange peel paint.
ynguldyn commented:
May 24, 2013, 2:25 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by chris328 View Post
i was under the impression that the m-sport package comes with the m-sport brakes by default
Not in the US.
tomc1227 commented:
May 24, 2013, 10:18 pm

Does anyone have residuals and MF's for 2014 F30s for May?
760Lifan commented:
May 24, 2013, 11:27 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomc1227 View Post
Does anyone have residuals and MF's for 2014 F30s for May?
I think that's a bit early. After all, you can't lease a MY14 F30 in May in the first place.
openwheelracing commented:
May 25, 2013, 1:50 am

I am confused. Does the 320i come standard with sport steering wheel and dark wood trim?

Or just for 328i and above?
Mikes328xi commented:
May 25, 2013, 2:54 pm

The more I read this the more it seems like you can now have the 328xi sedan with a manual transmission. I am reading this correctly?
ynguldyn commented:
May 25, 2013, 4:27 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes328xi View Post
The more I read this the more it seems like you can now have the 328xi sedan with a manual transmission. I am reading this correctly?
No. Manual transmission is a no charge option only available on 328i, 335i, 335ix. Look for "NC" on ZMT line in the pricing guide.
Mikes328xi commented:
May 25, 2013, 4:53 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
No. Manual transmission is a no charge option only available on 328i, 335i, 335ix. Look for "NC" on ZMT line in the pricing guide.
Ahh thanks for clearing that up! I dont understand why they wont allow 328xi to have the MT option. It's all I want!
ktula commented:
May 26, 2013, 1:20 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
F34 costs the same as F31 - really surprising considering $1.5K price differential in Europe.
F31 328dX can get the 2NH brakes, but they're not available for F30 328d(X). Weird.
F31 gets free shift paddles (compared to the pre-07/13 pricing) - nice $500 savings.
It's "free" if you ignore the $1500 increase in MSRP for US delivery.
ynguldyn commented:
May 26, 2013, 12:13 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by ktula View Post
It's "free" if you ignore the $1500 increase in MSRP for US delivery.
F31 MSRP remains at $41,450.
ktula commented:
May 26, 2013, 12:31 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
F31 MSRP remains at $41,450.
Thanks for the correction. I was looking at the wrong column at the one for 328d !
agtprvctr commented:
May 27, 2013, 4:43 pm

Does anyone have any idea what actual improvements there are in the "Advanced Real-Time Traffic" option for 2014 vs 2013? Thanks for any insight!
glennQNYC commented:
May 27, 2013, 6:03 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by agtprvctr View Post
Does anyone have any idea what actual improvements there are in the "Advanced Real-Time Traffic" option for 2014 vs 2013? Thanks for any insight!
I saw it profiled in a YouTube video. Search idrive 4.2.
If I remember correctly, the new traffic system gets info from the Internet and FM, where the previous setup was purely FM.
agtprvctr commented:
May 28, 2013, 5:01 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post
I saw it profiled in a YouTube video. Search idrive 4.2.
If I remember correctly, the new traffic system gets info from the Internet and FM, where the previous setup was purely FM.
Thanks, looks like the main improvement is indeed the extra source of traffic information from the Internet / crowd-source. Hm, when would we be able to start ordering 2014 F30? My local dealer says it isn't available yet; do orders not start until production starts 7/13??
BarryL commented:
May 29, 2013, 1:11 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by agtprvctr View Post
Thanks, looks like the main improvement is indeed the extra source of traffic information from the Internet / crowd-source. Hm, when would we be able to start ordering 2014 F30? My local dealer says it isn't available yet; do orders not start until production starts 7/13??
I was told you could put an order in today. I will probably do my order for a 335i xdrive M Sport this week.
xuesheng commented:
May 29, 2013, 5:46 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by BarryL View Post
I was told you could put an order in today. I will probably do my order for a 335i xdrive M Sport this week.
Getting close to doing that myself!

Hockeypuck commented:
May 29, 2013, 9:59 pm

If you order a 335 within the next couple of weeks, will it be built with any of the 2014 upgrades?
jaktv commented:
May 29, 2013, 10:04 pm

Have anyone been able to place an order for the f34 yet?. I am looking to place an order for ED. Wandering what how much above invoice I am expected to pay?
BarryL commented:
May 29, 2013, 10:21 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockeypuck View Post
If you order a 335 within the next couple of weeks, will it be built with any of the 2014 upgrades?
My quote was for 2014 335i Sedan xdrive M Sport. I loaded it up with all the goodies-- M Brakes, Drivers Assist / Plus, Tech, Handling, Active Cruise.

Every quote I have gotten were loaded with new options.
glennQNYC commented:
May 30, 2013, 12:50 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by BarryL View Post
My quote was for 2014 335i Sedan xdrive M Sport. I loaded it up with all the goodies-- M Brakes, Drivers Assist / Plus, Tech, Handling, Active Cruise.

Every quote I have gotten were loaded with new options.
Sounds like confirmation that Active Cruise and M Sport no longer conflict in 2014. Can't wait to see how the sensor is implemented on that nose.
E92Carrera commented:
May 30, 2013, 12:56 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by BarryL View Post
My quote was for 2014 335i Sedan xdrive M Sport. I loaded it up with all the goodies-- M Brakes, Drivers Assist / Plus, Tech, Handling, Active Cruise.

Every quote I have gotten were loaded with new options.
Did they have MF and residuals for the 2014 already? What #'s did they base your quote off of? Thanks!
BarryL commented:
May 30, 2013, 12:56 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post
Sounds like confirmation that Active Cruise and M Sport no longer conflict in 2014. Can't wait to see how the sensor is implemented on that nose.
Two good things for 2014. Availability and pricing. Active cruise control option went from $2200 (IIRC) to $1200. My guess is the sensor was re-designed, maybe smaller? To properly fit M-Sport front bumper cover. Only conflict I saw was ZMT (manual Trans). I can see an issue there!
BarryL commented:
May 30, 2013, 12:59 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by E92Carrera View Post
Did they have MF and residuals for the 2014 already? What #'s did they base your quote off of? Thanks!
Price I was quoted was ED Invoice + $750. I don't think bmwconfig is updated yet with 2014 models. The discount percentages were the saw from 2013 models.
franchisesforsa commented:
May 30, 2013, 2:36 am

Thank for the information.
x6_NJ commented:
May 31, 2013, 2:15 am

Production of 2014 starts on 7/13 but BMW must have plenty of orders at least month in advance. So I am guessing we all should be able to place our ED order by mid of June.

As soon as someone managed to place ED 2014 order - please let all us know.
Bimmer3oi commented:
June 3, 2013, 1:20 pm

i initiated an ED order last Friday (05/31) afternoon for a 2014 335i MSport (F30)...while i was in his office, the salesman called up the "European Delivery office" (on the east coast?), and they confirmed that ED of the 2014s "launches" on August 12. I put down a deposit, and submitted the order request form for Aug 16 pick up. I am still waiting to hear the final/official confirmation that August 16 is a GO.
tim330i commented:
June 3, 2013, 1:27 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimmer3oi View Post
i initiated an ED order last Friday (05/31) afternoon for a 2014 335i MSport...while i was in his office, the salesman called up the "European Delivery office" (on the east coast?), and they confirmed that ED of the 2014s "launches" on August 12. I put down a deposit, and submitted the order request form for Aug 16 pick up. I am still waiting to hear the final/official confirmation that August 16 is a GO.
Awesome! So you have an ED spot for a F32 4 series locked in. Now you're just waiting on pricing and final details?

Tim
Bimmer3oi commented:
June 3, 2013, 1:49 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
Awesome! So you have an ED spot for a F32 4 series locked in. Now you're just waiting on pricing and final details?
i ordered a 2014 F30 335i...and the pricing is also agreed to (invoice + X)...since i couldn't find actual 2014 invoice pricing, i had extrapolated the numbers using the available 2013 wholesale pricing, and it turned out my numbers matched almost exactly to the 2014 wholesale pricing the salesman showed me

as i mentioned, although i was verbally told my date was good, i am still waiting on an official e-mail or something confirming that a slot is guaranteed for me for August 16.
tim330i commented:
June 3, 2013, 1:54 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimmer3oi View Post
i ordered a 2014 F30 335i...and the pricing is also agreed to (invoice + X)...since i couldn't find actual 2014 invoice pricing, i had extrapolated the numbers using the available 2013 wholesale pricing, and it turned out my numbers matched almost exactly to the 2014 wholesale pricing the salesman showed me

as i mentioned, although i was verbally told my date was good, i am still waiting on an official e-mail or something confirming that a slot is guaranteed for me for August 16.
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Keep us updated.

Tim
anthon683 commented:
June 3, 2013, 4:12 pm

Hey... Anyone know if the 2014 F30 Sedan will come with the new Nav in Canada? (Idrive 4.6)

I got the ordering guide and it just says "609 On board Navigation" (does not mention touchpad)
x6_NJ commented:
June 4, 2013, 12:57 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimmer3oi View Post
i initiated an ED order last Friday (05/31) afternoon for a 2014 335i MSport (F30)...while i was in his office, the salesman called up the "European Delivery office" (on the east coast?), and they confirmed that ED of the 2014s "launches" on August 12. I put down a deposit, and submitted the order request form for Aug 16 pick up. I am still waiting to hear the final/official confirmation that August 16 is a GO.

Thanks a lot for your info. I am planning to lock my ED for 335i MSport (F30) tomorrow. Hope it will be August Munich pick up since I am planning to reach South of France by the end of the season.
fb88 commented:
June 4, 2013, 11:06 pm

iDrive 4.2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRUtYVjjqK0

Is the advanced traffic via SIM card a subscription service that you get for free for 4 years then you have to pay?
Does 2014 have the ability to display exact tire psi for each tire in iDrive?

What's the brake distance shortened between M Sport Brakes vs standard brakes?
Do M Sport brake pads last longer?
From another forum:
Same as the M Performance brakes except for discs.
Front:
4-Piston aluminum fixed-caliper brake 18", lightweight brake discs with interior ventilation and aluminum brake bowl
Brake callipers painted (blue), with M badge

Rear
2-Piston aluminum fixed-caliper brake 18", lightweight brake discs with interior ventilation and aluminum brake bowl
E92Carrera commented:
June 4, 2013, 11:59 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimmer3oi View Post
i initiated an ED order last Friday (05/31) afternoon for a 2014 335i MSport (F30)...while i was in his office, the salesman called up the "European Delivery office" (on the east coast?), and they confirmed that ED of the 2014s "launches" on August 12. I put down a deposit, and submitted the order request form for Aug 16 pick up. I am still waiting to hear the final/official confirmation that August 16 is a GO.
By launches I'm assuming they mean ED deliveries begin August 12th, correct? Let us know as soon as you receive confirmation on your date, submitted my request to my CA today. One of my ED dates was August 16th, so I might see you there!
x6_NJ commented:
June 5, 2013, 12:35 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimmer3oi View Post
i ordered a 2014 F30 335i...and the pricing is also agreed to (invoice + X)...since i couldn't find actual 2014 invoice pricing, i had extrapolated the numbers using the available 2013 wholesale pricing, and it turned out my numbers matched almost exactly to the 2014 wholesale pricing the salesman showed me

as i mentioned, although i was verbally told my date was good, i am still waiting on an official e-mail or something confirming that a slot is guaranteed for me for August 16.

Just sent request to my CA for Aug 14, 15, 16 Munich pick up. Seems like these dates are very popular
snelldogg commented:
June 10, 2013, 11:31 am

X6...where did you buy from and what CA did you use?
x6_NJ commented:
June 11, 2013, 12:34 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by snelldogg View Post
X6...where did you buy from and what CA did you use?

John Weltzien from Braman Motorcars (West Palm Beach, FL) - made all negotiations via email and phone call at the end. He is currently on vacation till 21 of June but if you email him - he will reply: jweltzien@bramanmc.com


NOw I am waiting for my ED date confirmation. Should be around mid of August.
baloo588 commented:
June 14, 2013, 5:55 pm

I'm seeing different things in regards to the 6 speed manual being or not being available on the 435i xdrive. Can anyone confirm? The latest press release says 6 speed manual not avail on the 428i xdrive but no mention of 435i xdrive. However the ordering forms which were posted earlier this year showed that the manual not avail on the 435i xdrive but available on the 428i xdrive. I want to get the 435i xdrive with manual.
K-A commented:
June 15, 2013, 12:02 am

Please tell me that this car has LED turn signals available as options??!!
Snareman commented:
June 17, 2013, 8:59 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimmer3oi View Post
i ordered a 2014 F30 335i...and the pricing is also agreed to (invoice + X)...since i couldn't find actual 2014 invoice pricing, i had extrapolated the numbers using the available 2013 wholesale pricing, and it turned out my numbers matched almost exactly to the 2014 wholesale pricing the salesman showed me

as i mentioned, although i was verbally told my date was good, i am still waiting on an official e-mail or something confirming that a slot is guaranteed for me for August 16.
Did you find that that X amount was higher than before. I hear that f32's are going to be coming out of dealer allocation for awhile so they won't be able to deal on them like before. I had $1k over invoice on my previous 2 ED cars.
Bret_T commented:
June 17, 2013, 9:14 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snareman View Post
I hear that f32's are going to be coming out of dealer allocation for awhile so they won't be able to deal on them like before.
Is this a definite?
Snareman commented:
June 17, 2013, 9:16 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bret_T View Post
Is this a definite?
Seems to be:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=701134
tim330i commented:
June 24, 2013, 6:00 pm

Model year 2014 4 Series Coupe pricing is now available -

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=704886

Tim
JohnL345 commented:
June 25, 2013, 2:20 pm

As an old marketing and advertising guy, the "sport, modern and luxury" line thing is IMOP a bad marketing gimmick.
(the modern line being dropped is a good sign).

First, consumer assumption should be that any car with the image of BMW and certainly at these prices would be--Sporty, Luxurious AND modern!
Suspect this is a "too clever" by half way to hide prices for what is (except for the sport line) basically non-functional trim.
StrangeC commented:
June 30, 2013, 5:49 pm

Anyone seeing any deals on the 4- or is it full sticker?
Snareman commented:
July 3, 2013, 3:53 pm

Doesn't seem to be full sticker from what I'm seeing. Can anyone tell me how to come up with invoice pricing?
rdkind62 commented:
July 3, 2013, 4:28 pm

I think we are still waiting for all the final numbers for things like invoice, lease numbers, etc.
tim330i commented:
July 3, 2013, 4:41 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snareman View Post
Doesn't seem to be full sticker from what I'm seeing. Can anyone tell me how to come up with invoice pricing?
The 328i sedan invoice pricing is almost exactly .936 of base MSRP. Take that percentage off the 428i MRSP of $40,500 and you get $37,908. Looking at the numbers 7% off MSRP gets you within a few hundred at worst and much closer most of the time. 435i invoice of $42,900 sounds about right to me. MSRP is $46,000.

Tim
Snareman commented:
July 4, 2013, 2:37 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
The 328i sedan invoice pricing is almost exactly .936 of base MSRP. Take that percentage off the 428i MRSP of $40,500 and you get $37,908. Looking at the numbers 7% off MSRP gets you within a few hundred at worst and much closer most of the time. 435i invoice of $42,900 sounds about right to me. MSRP is $46,000.

Tim
Thanks. When calculating total price of the car, do you also take that % off the options and packages as well? Or maybe more simply, take the total cost of the car ~$58k US/$55k ED and then subtract 7%?
ESS commented:
July 5, 2013, 3:37 pm

When do we expect the 2014 F30 invoice pricing to be published? I've been estimating but would prefer to have the real numbers before I negotiate.
tim330i commented:
July 8, 2013, 7:34 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snareman View Post
Thanks. When calculating total price of the car, do you also take that % off the options and packages as well? Or maybe more simply, take the total cost of the car ~$58k US/$55k ED and then subtract 7%?
It isn't perfect but it does get you close.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ESS View Post
When do we expect the 2014 F30 invoice pricing to be published? I've been estimating but would prefer to have the real numbers before I negotiate.
I would imagine the usual sources of invoice pricing will have them soon but we're still about 3 months from an official on sale date so it could be awhile.

Tim
Snareman commented:
July 9, 2013, 6:28 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
It isn't perfect but it does get you close.



I would imagine the usual sources of invoice pricing will have them soon but we're still about 3 months from an official on sale date so it could be awhile.

Tim
But, the 7% is only off the base price right? You don't also take it off the option invoice prices right? They are just standard invoice pricing right?
tim330i commented:
July 9, 2013, 6:31 pm

Looks like packages invoice pricing is 9% off MSRP.

Tim
Snareman commented:
July 9, 2013, 6:34 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
Looks like packages invoice pricing is 9% off MSRP.

Tim
Right. Package invoices are about 9% off MSRP. But the ED discount is only on the base price right? Just want to make sure I'm calculating it correctly.
fb88 commented:
July 14, 2013, 10:53 pm

Side and Top View Cameras (5DL) is available as a stand-alone option for $750.


The Notes says 5DL requires ZDA Driver Assistance Package.
(3AG Rear-view camera)
(508 Park Distance Control).
Guy3Series commented:
July 23, 2013, 12:13 pm

The Standard Silver Matte Trim for 328i is replaced with a Dark Burl walnut trim as standard.

Not fascinated by this move at all. Don't like any wood trims in my car.
cdp1276 commented:
July 26, 2013, 5:02 pm

Does anyone have the invoice pricing document they can send me for the 4 Series?
Snareman commented:
July 27, 2013, 2:48 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by cdp1276 View Post
Does anyone have the invoice pricing document they can send me for the 4 Series?
Its not available, but you can I think fairly close calculate it based on the % of the 3 series invoice pricing.
cdp1276 commented:
July 27, 2013, 9:37 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snareman View Post
Its not available, but you can I think fairly close calculate it based on the % of the 3 series invoice pricing.
Why would it not be available? They are always usually released the same time of retail pricing.
Snareman commented:
July 27, 2013, 1:06 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by cdp1276 View Post
Why would it not be available? They are always usually released the same time of retail pricing.
I don't know. They just don't seem to be out anywhere. Maybe once more sites like Edmunds have info on the car out the invoice pricing will be out.
agroves commented:
July 29, 2013, 6:23 am

I think it is more a matter of if someone is going to share it. Wholesale price sheets are in the order manual- just a different version than the retail ones posted. Bmwconfig doesn't have 14 3 series yet so I am in the same boat. I much prefer knowing what the price is then negotiating and ordering. With the right info- it can be a 10 minute process. Without, it can be much longer and you really never know whether you are giving and getting a fair deal.


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Snareman commented:
July 29, 2013, 11:35 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by agroves View Post
I think it is more a matter of if someone is going to share it. Wholesale price sheets are in the order manual- just a different version than the retail ones posted. Bmwconfig doesn't have 14 3 series yet so I am in the same boat. I much prefer knowing what the price is then negotiating and ordering. With the right info- it can be a 10 minute process. Without, it can be much longer and you really never know whether you are giving and getting a fair deal.


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Yea, I don't know how we negotiated cars back in the day before we had all of this internet info. You negotiated down to what you thought was a fair price, but you really had no idea. Its so much easier now if you do your homework before going in.
FCBayernFTW commented:
August 15, 2013, 4:38 pm

Is the 4 series going to get the full LED headlights?

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Snareman commented:
August 15, 2013, 8:03 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by jocamryn View Post
Is the 4 series going to get the full LED headlights?

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do you mean something different than the LED option that is already there for $1900?
FCBayernFTW commented:
August 15, 2013, 11:11 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snareman View Post
do you mean something different than the LED option that is already there for $1900?
I mean like the 6 series. Is this the same lighting?!?

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tim330i commented:
August 16, 2013, 2:14 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by jocamryn View Post
I mean like the 6 series. Is this the same lighting?!?

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Yes.
Snareman commented:
August 16, 2013, 3:05 am

Most people (even my CA) seem to say that for right it isn't worth the cost for what you're getting. I haven't seen it in person though.
snelldogg commented:
August 16, 2013, 11:55 am

Getting an 2014335M Sport with MSRP of $53,075
Through ED getting the car at $46,570

I'm ok with the cost of the car but can you please help me understand the fees for driveoff? Based on my experience leasing they seem high by about $500

36Months, 10k per year
MF .00155
Res 61

1st Month $543
Fees in question...
Bank Fee 725
NJMV and Luxury Tax $563.85
Doc Fee $398

Total drive off $2243.99

Really appreciate you guys looking at this!
jonesp commented:
August 27, 2013, 5:12 pm

Just ordered my 328x for ED.
FYI Difference in ED invoice for MY2014 is 215$ higher than MY 2013.
JT01 commented:
August 30, 2013, 4:18 am

New to the forum. I've spent a considerable amount of time reading many of the posts in this forum over the past week. It's an outstanding resource and has helped in the decision process.

I own an 88 M5 and have enjoyed the car quite a bit. Now we are looking to add to the fleet.

I am in the early stages of purchasing a 2014 328i sedan. I understand that 2014 invoice pricing is not readily available but according to what I have read I can estimate the invoice pricing using .936 of the MSRP for the base price and .91 of the options.

Using these numbers I get the following:

Item/ MSRP/ Invoice
2014 328i $37.100 $34,726
Silver $550 $501
M Sport $3,500 $3,185
Driver Assist Pkg $950 $865
Driver Assist + Pkg $1,900 $1,729
Premium Pkg $3,100 $2,821
Tech Pkg $3,150 $2,867
Sport Auto Trans $500 $455
Heated Front Seats $500 $455
HK Audio $875 $796
Anti Theft $400 $364

Total $52,525 $48,762

I assume from this $48,762, I would deduct any incentives and add $925 for Destination and about $500 for registration (California).

Am I on the right track?

Thanks.

JT
cloner commented:
August 30, 2013, 9:45 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by JT01 View Post
New to the forum. I've spent a considerable amount of time reading many of the posts in this forum over the past week. It's an outstanding resource and has helped in the decision process.

I own an 88 M5 and have enjoyed the car quite a bit. Now we are looking to add to the fleet.

I am in the early stages of purchasing a 2014 328i sedan. I understand that 2014 invoice pricing is not readily available but according to what I have read I can estimate the invoice pricing using .936 of the MSRP for the base price and .91 of the options.

Using these numbers I get the following:

Item/ MSRP/ Invoice
2014 328i $37.100 $34,726
Silver $550 $501
M Sport $3,500 $3,185
Driver Assist Pkg $950 $865
Driver Assist + Pkg $1,900 $1,729
Premium Pkg $3,100 $2,821
Tech Pkg $3,150 $2,867
Sport Auto Trans $500 $455
Heated Front Seats $500 $455
HK Audio $875 $796
Anti Theft $400 $364

Total $52,525 $48,762

I assume from this $48,762, I would deduct any incentives and add $925 for Destination and about $500 for registration (California).

Am I on the right track?

Thanks.

JT
Invoice price on a MY2014 328i is $34130.00. I got this off my VIR that include the Wholesale price of everything I had on my order. Your calculation for everything else looks within a dollar of my invoice numbers for those options we have in common. Don't forget to add MACO ~380.00 and Training fees ~180.00 to the final invoice tally to get the true Wholesale price. That may be where the 0.093 came from to estimate the base invoice price that you used. In the end, I think your final number is almost spot on, just don't let someone add the two fees on you twice!!!

Take care.

Cloner
JT01 commented:
August 30, 2013, 10:45 am

Thanks Cloner.

I'm still off by about $1,500 from the price I was given.

Would you mind sending me a PM with the invoice prices of the options we have in common? I would like to get back to the dealer with a few exact line items instead of all estimates on my options.

JT
cloner commented:
August 30, 2013, 11:00 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by JT01 View Post
Thanks Cloner.

I'm still off by about $1,500 from the price I was given.

Would you mind sending me a PM with the invoice prices of the options we have in common? I would like to get back to the dealer with a few exact line items instead of all estimates on my options.

JT
PM sent
namelessman commented:
September 1, 2013, 11:27 am

Are invoice prices available for MY14 F30? Edmund and bmwconfig still only have MY14 info.
BarryL commented:
September 1, 2013, 11:37 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by namelessman View Post
Are invoice prices available for MY14 F30? Edmund and bmwconfig still only have MY14 info.
I posted mine here. Sorry it's in the 'other' site.

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=149
joedoe commented:
September 1, 2013, 1:32 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by namelessman View Post
Are invoice prices available for MY14 F30? Edmund and bmwconfig still only have MY14 info.
See http://www.carquotes.com/bmw/3_serie..._sulev/pricing
fastm3 commented:
September 10, 2013, 10:17 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by joedoe View Post
Useful site, but unfortunately no Euro Del pricing info. bmwfig has been down for the last few days. It seems like there's nowhere to get the latest Euro Del Invoice pricing info.
BarryL commented:
September 10, 2013, 10:26 pm

If you look at my post (two above) you'll see my Euro Delivery price for my 335xi
Xx123 commented:
September 11, 2013, 3:32 pm

Does anyone know the pricing of trim lines,packages and options with euro deliver ,Munich pick up. I am thinking of buying my first BMW and doing euro pick up. Thanks
ktula commented:
September 11, 2013, 3:55 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xx123 View Post
Does anyone know the pricing of trim lines,packages and options with euro deliver ,Munich pick up. I am thinking of buying my first BMW and doing euro pick up. Thanks
Try bmwconfig.com. Go to "Configurator". It does not have information for some 2014 models (like F31).
Xx123 commented:
September 11, 2013, 6:29 pm

thank you
Vitt commented:
September 24, 2013, 2:27 am

Are there any sites/references where one can find differences between the M Sport (= 704 from ZSL Sportline) and M Performance Suspension that is supposedly dealer or port installed options (as mentioned on other threads of this forum)? Including the prices on the M performance suspension parts?
shazi00 commented:
September 24, 2013, 7:55 pm

Thought I'd post here about my 2014 F30. I got mine in Alpine White, with black interior and the base Dark Burl Walnut Wood Trim. I was very skeptical on the wood and really wanted the Aluminum Trim but ended up ordering the Wood. Let me tell you, the Dark Burl Walnut Wood looks great and I am so glad I went with that. It's unlike the previous versions of the 3 Series. I would compare it to the Anthracite Wood or some option like that. It's almost as dark and looks great with the black interior.

Just throwing it out there for someone who was unable to find some appropriate pictures. I would be happy to post some pictures if someone can give me some instructions.
Boxster_B commented:
September 29, 2013, 2:02 pm

I'm torn between the interior trim.....yes, please post some pix. Thanks
tim330i commented:
October 10, 2013, 5:21 pm

Original post now updated with new pricing sheets to reflect the October 2014 pricing increase. Read more about the pricing increase here -

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=725127

Tim
stevehecht commented:
January 17, 2014, 11:20 pm

Tim--Do you know where I can find invoice pricing on MPerformance parts?
tim330i commented:
January 18, 2014, 1:08 am

Unfortunately I don't. I would think it is the standard 7% or there abouts off msrp.

Tim
tim330i commented:
February 11, 2014, 3:01 pm

Thread has been updated with F33 BMW 4 series convertible pricing and order guides!

Tim
dwlink commented:
February 13, 2014, 2:57 pm

ED invoice is 0.85 x US MRSP base vehicle + 0.91 x Price of all packages/options.

Round to the nearest $50


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ardie_888 commented:
February 13, 2014, 8:16 pm

First off this is a great resource. Thanks for all the great posts here.

I've done my homework and am pretty close to pulling the trigger. Just got off the phone with a dealer and I feel OK about this deal but wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything.

2014 328i with
Tech package
Sport Line
Moonroof
Sport Auto Transmission
Heated Seats
And Driver Assistance Package

MSRP: $47,775
Negotiated Price: $41,600
Other Rebates: $1,000
Price After Rebates: $40,600

Lease: 36 months/ 12k milles
Residual: $28,187.25 (59%)
Money Down: $5000 (They didn't break this down but said it included max security deposits)

When I asked about the money factor, the rep said 1.7. That only makes sense to me if she meant that was the annual interest rate. But she kept saying it was 1.7.

Monthly PMT: $385
After tax monthly PMT: $415

This all sounds reasonable to me but I know people on here are much more expert than I. If you have thoughts, please let me know! Thanks!
tim330i commented:
February 19, 2014, 9:50 am

Want to know pricing for the 2015 F80 M3 and F82 M4? We've got the complete pricing and ordering guides here -

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=753911

Tim
fb88 commented:
February 20, 2014, 12:38 pm

I thought there is a $1,250 and $750 rebate till 2/28/2014.

http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/3-series/...er_rebates_irr

Also received offer from 2 different dealerships regarding $2,000 credit.
Boxster_B commented:
February 23, 2014, 1:27 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by ardie_888 View Post
First off this is a great resource. Thanks for all the great posts here.

I've done my homework and am pretty close to pulling the trigger. Just got off the phone with a dealer and I feel OK about this deal but wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything.

2014 328i with
Tech package
Sport Line
Moonroof
Sport Auto Transmission
Heated Seats
And Driver Assistance Package

MSRP: $47,775
Negotiated Price: $41,600
Other Rebates: $1,000
Price After Rebates: $40,600

Lease: 36 months/ 12k milles
Residual: $28,187.25 (59%)
Money Down: $5000 (They didn't break this down but said it included max security deposits)

When I asked about the money factor, the rep said 1.7. That only makes sense to me if she meant that was the annual interest rate. But she kept sayting it was 1.7.

Monthly PMT: $385
After tax monthly PMT: $415

This all sounds reasonable to me but I know people on here are much more expert than I. If you have thoughts, please let me know! Thanks!
Typically, when does the next model year info become available (MY2015), and when can ordering begin? I'm planning ED/PC on a 2015 328i M-sport. I would like to do ED in early Sept. Thanks.
tim330i commented:
February 23, 2014, 6:37 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxster_B View Post
Typically, when does the next model year info become available (MY2015), and when can ordering begin? I'm planning ED/PC on a 2015 328i M-sport. I would like to do ED in early Sept. Thanks.
MY 2015s will start production in July. We should have the info closer to then, probably about a month out. September ED shouldn't be a problem.

Tim
Boxster_B commented:
February 23, 2014, 10:05 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
MY 2015s will start production in July. We should have the info closer to then, probably about a month out. September ED shouldn't be a problem.

Tim
Great, thanks. At this point do we expect any refresh or changes for MY2015?
tim330i commented:
February 24, 2014, 9:32 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxster_B View Post
Great, thanks. At this point do we expect any refresh or changes for MY2015?
There might be some options/package pricing changes but I wouldn't expect anything major. If I'm doing my math right the LCI will come for 2016.

Tim
Bdlfd commented:
February 28, 2014, 5:37 am

I need a little advice on a lease for a 2014 bmw 328 i xdrive
Sticker $50,775
Luxury line
Tech
Metallic paint
Nav
Cold weather
Lighting
Wood trim
36 month/ 15k miles a year/ $3615 down and $529 a month. Good deal???

First bmw lease, I did not get the money factor. First mistake
Pressure since end of month and I was in a rush. Got emergency call
Need to do deal today cause of end of month. They say has to be today.

Having second thoughts. Other dealers where higher on
Lower priced cars with same money down. And even left overs.

I don't have much more info and need quick opinion fair deal or not
Eurobahn Motorsports commented:
March 1, 2014, 6:06 am

That is not a bad deal, you can always Negotiate, your rates and terms, but
My guess is that a vast majority of mid to high end vehicles with high residual value are leased by businesses today, and offered to owners, executives, and upper level managers as part of their pay packages and as cost effective business write-offs. The balance would be purchased by those who are financially very well off, but that is a much smaller population.

Most people who have to pay with their own money would most likely purchase low to mid price bmw cars. Ones that lease in that price range would be commercial fleet and rental operators.

I can say that with reasonable amount of confidence because I am part owner of a rather successful business, and we are currently leasing three bmw 535i, one X5, one M3, and one M5 was purchased from BMW Greensboro (actually on order) for executives including myself. If I were to purchase a car with my own money I would most likely go to a local bank and get a loan and buy the bmw straight out.
Gary J commented:
March 1, 2014, 7:57 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eurobahn Motorsports View Post
That is not a bad deal, you can always Negotiate, your rates and terms, but
My guess is that a vast majority of mid to high end vehicles with high residual value are leased by businesses today, and offered to owners, executives, and upper level managers as part of their pay packages and as cost effective business write-offs. The balance would be purchased by those who are financially very well off, but that is a much smaller population.

Most people who have to pay with their own money would most likely purchase low to mid price bmw cars. Ones that lease in that price range would be commercial fleet and rental operators.

I can say that with reasonable amount of confidence because I am part owner of a rather successful business, and we are currently leasing three bmw 535i, one X5, one M3, and one M5 was purchased from BMW Greensboro (actually on order) for executives including myself. If I were to purchase a car with my own money I would most likely go to a local bank and get a loan and buy the bmw straight out.
I would say you have it exactly backwards. The majority buying the high end are people who are well off and buy for themselves so they are making their own choices and beholden to nobody. And they are writing checks not going to "a local bank" for a loan.
sleprmd commented:
March 4, 2014, 10:46 am

I'm looking for a BMW 2014 325d to purchase
with cold weather package , cooling ,Leather seats,
Dealer MRSP is running 47K + . IS any one doning a group buy for around 40K?
Or what would be the best price for this vehicle?
wacked commented:
March 17, 2014, 10:24 am

I have two offers in hand.

2012 328i 5000 miles CPO to 8/2018 or 100K Premium pkg, Tech pkg, Sport line, heated seats $33.5K + TTL
2014 328i new Premium pkg, lighting pkg, driver assist pkg, heated seats $38.5K + TTL

I can't make up my mind. Any input?
Bret_T commented:
March 17, 2014, 11:14 am

Only a $5000 difference? That's a no brainer in my book. Take the new 2014. The used equivalent two year old car would have to be about $25k for me to consider it versus a new one at #38.5k.
wacked commented:
March 17, 2014, 11:30 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bret_T View Post
Only a $5000 difference? That's a no brainer in my book. Take the new 2014. The used equivalent two year old car would have to be about $25k for me to consider it versus a new one at #38.5k.
Older model cheaper by $5K but includes Tech pkg and Sport Line, which amount to more than $5.5k when new. Those extras make it a hard choice for me.
wacked commented:
March 18, 2014, 7:38 pm

I went with the new car.

$44,225 sticker (metallic paint, premium, lighting, driver asst, heated fronts)

$38,447 + TTL (net of $2000 options credit)

$40,097 OTD

Now, I gotta sell my G37. It's been a good 3 years.


Quote:
Originally Posted by wacked View Post
I have two offers in hand.

2012 328i 5000 miles CPO to 8/2018 or 100K Premium pkg, Tech pkg, Sport line, heated seats $33.5K + TTL
2014 328i new Premium pkg, lighting pkg, driver assist pkg, heated seats $38.5K + TTL

I can't make up my mind. Any input?
Bret_T commented:
March 18, 2014, 10:31 pm

Congratulations! I live in Atlanta and I still think the best option that I chose was the heated seats.
Boxster_B commented:
April 3, 2014, 10:27 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
Original post now updated with new pricing sheets to reflect the October 2014 pricing increase. Read more about the pricing increase here -

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=725127

Tim
Hi All,

I love the forums, and have learned a great deal during my research process.

I am ready to order a MY2015 3er for ED pick up in early September. Would you mind recommending someone who specializes in ED/PC who is known for having good customer service, smooth processing, and the best pricing? I'm in Atlanta and understand I can deal with someone out of state.

Are there any pros/cons dealing with someone in state vs out of state?

Does pricing vary when dealing with different ED specialized firms/dealers?

Thanks to those who can help.
tim330i commented:
April 3, 2014, 10:30 am

Post a new question in the ED forum, that will be the fastest way to get help!

Tim
Boxster_B commented:
April 3, 2014, 10:34 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
Post a new question in the ED forum, that will be the fastest way to get help!

Tim
Will do. Thanks Tim.
GBPackerfan1963 commented:
April 6, 2014, 1:39 am

Just looking for a little input before I drive a 435. Not one available at local dealer at this time. Does anyone here have opinions to cockpit size of 435 v. E39 M5? Thanks in advance.
Weaselboy commented:
April 6, 2014, 10:14 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by GBPackerfan1963 View Post
Just looking for a little input before I drive a 435. Not one available at local dealer at this time. Does anyone here have opinions to cockpit size of 435 v. E39 M5? Thanks in advance.
I would say it is pretty close to the size of the E39 inside.

You can get a really good feel for the size by sitting in any old F30 328i your dealer has. The 4-series roof is slightly lower... but otherwise a 328i is about identical as far as interior space up front. To me the coupes always feel a little larger inside because you don't have that B pillar just beside your head like in a 3-series.
K-A commented:
April 6, 2014, 4:32 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Weaselboy View Post
I would say it is pretty close to the size of the E39 inside.

You can get a really good feel for the size by sitting in any old F30 328i your dealer has. The 4-series roof is slightly lower... but otherwise a 328i is about identical as far as interior space up front. To me the coupes always feel a little larger inside because you don't have that B pillar just beside your head like in a 3-series.
Unfortunately I found the roof of the 4 Series to be a little too cramped for my height. :/

O/T but since this is something that's always on my mind: Anyone know whether having the B Pillar right next to your head on the sedans is a safety minus or plus? I can see it two ways there, namely depending on how well the pillar is covered by the side airbag (and how high on it the airbag covers).
Bret_T commented:
April 6, 2014, 4:57 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by GBPackerfan1963 View Post
Just looking for a little input before I drive a 435. Not one available at local dealer at this time. Does anyone here have opinions to cockpit size of 435 v. E39 M5?
I can't make that direct comparison for you, but I can tell you this. My 435 is the first car that I've ever owned (I'm 44) that I don't have to keep the seat all the way back.