In Photos: 4 Series Gran Coupe vs. 3 Series Sedan vs. 4 Series Coupe

by Mark Jurista on February 1, 2014, 6:00 pm
BMW has launched the all-new 2015 BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe and with it, we of course wanted to see what the newest addition to the 3 Series / 4 Series family looked like when stacked up to each other. Take a look below and let us know what you think.

* Note that two of the photos required flipping the image to get the best comparison angle. Because of this, the gas tank appears on the wrong side of the car and the badge placement is wrong. You can tell this in the photos where the license plate is clearly reverse. Sorry for taking the quick and easy approach on this one!

BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe vs. BMW 4 Series Coupe vs. BMW 3 Series Sedan

BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe 4 Series Coupe 3 Series Sedan

BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe vs. BMW 3 Series Sedan

BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe3 Series Sedan

BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe 3 Series Sedan

BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe 3 Series Sedan


BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe vs. BMW 4 Series Coupe

BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe 4 Series Coupe

BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe 4 Series Coupe

BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe 4 Series Coupe


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86 responses to In Photos: 4 Series Gran Coupe vs. 3 Series Sedan vs. 4 Series Coupe

beware_phog commented:
February 1, 2014, 9:57 pm

nicely done; very confusing
ny325 commented:
February 1, 2014, 9:59 pm

Not impressed!
boltjaM3s commented:
February 1, 2014, 11:02 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by pix335i View Post
BMW has launched the all-new 2015 BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe and with it, we of course wanted to see what the newest addition to the 3 Series / 4 Series family looked like when stacked up to each other. Take a look below and let us know what you think.
Thanks so much, clearly shows the difference between the 4GC and the 3S, loving that chopped roof and wider stance.

BJ
ilusv commented:
February 1, 2014, 11:15 pm

90% of the public won't notice the difference, I guess it gives us more options. I'm still not sold on the 4 series line; sales numbers will do the talking. .
beden1 commented:
February 1, 2014, 11:15 pm

It looks like a 3GT.
ktula commented:
February 2, 2014, 12:11 am

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Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
It looks like a 3GT.
Agree. It looks just like a smaller 3GT with the 4 series Coupe's taillights and headlights.
FCBayernFTW commented:
February 2, 2014, 12:19 am

Me likes.

So when do we see a render or leak of the M4GC?

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stevehecht commented:
February 2, 2014, 12:20 am

Why does the 4GC look a lot bigger than the 328 when in reality it is only slightly larger? Is it the lowering?
boltjaM3s commented:
February 2, 2014, 12:27 am

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Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
It looks like a 3GT.


No. The GT looks like the love child of an X6 and a Station Wagon.

BJ
FCBayernFTW commented:
February 2, 2014, 12:59 am

Except sleeker and lower.

I like it.

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namelessman commented:
February 2, 2014, 2:32 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
It looks like a 3GT.
To me it looks like a mini 640GC.
boltjaM3s commented:
February 2, 2014, 6:03 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by namelessman View Post
To me it looks like a mini 640GC.


Exactly.

BJ
boltjaM3s commented:
February 2, 2014, 6:16 am

2015 BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe Might Be a Better 3 Series Sedan

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At BMW, there really is something for everyone these days. Just take a look at the massive 3 Series/4 Series range you can have a sedan, coupe, convertible, wagon, or funky-backed Gran Turismo. And now, with the introduction of the 2015 4 Series Gran Coupe, you can have another seda... err, hatchback, actually. But perhaps, a better one.

Compared to the 3 Series sedan, the 4 Series Gran Coupe is both longer and wider by about half an inch, but is shorter in overall height by an inch and a half. Honestly, to our eyes, it looks a little better than the 3 Series, too, what with its longer roofline, more sculpted rear haunches and lower stance. Full interior volume specs for the 4GC aren't available as of this writing, but we expect them to be roughly the same as the 3 Series, perhaps with a small decrease in headroom and rear legroom. Trunk space, at 17 cubic feet, matches the 3 Series sedan, and because the 4GC actually uses a hatchback design, it should be easier to access.

Powertrains are completely carryover from the rest of the 3/4 Series range. The 428i uses BMW's well-liked 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-four with 240 horsepower and 255 pound-feet of torque, and the 435i is fitted with the company's 3.0-liter turbo-six, good for 300 hp and 300 lb-ft. An eight-speed automatic is the only transmission available in the US with either model and rear-wheel drive is standard. Only the 428i can be had with BMW's xDrive all-wheel-drive system, and interestingly, the 428i Gran Coupe is actually expected to be more fuel-efficient than its 3 Series sedan counterpart. The GC is estimated to return 23/35 miles per gallon city/highway, compared to the 23/33 mpg in the 328i sedan. The 435i Gran Coupe should achieve the same 22/32 mpg ratings as the 335i sedan.

When we drove the 435i Coupe last summer, we actually found it to be a lot more engaging than its 3 Series counterpart, mostly thanks to its lower ride height and retuned suspension. The 4 Series Gran Coupe promises similar things as it can be had with an adaptive M suspension and variable sport steering. Of course, the same Eco Pro, Comfort, Sport and Sport+ drive modes have carried over from the sedan, as well.

BMW's Luxury, Sport and M Sport trims are once again available here in the 4 Series Gran Coupe, with a nearly carryover interior, save a bit more in the way of rear seat space. The car will officially debut at the Geneva Motor Show in March, and hits US showrooms this summer, with the 428i and 435i Gran Coupes priced at X and X, respectively, not including $925 for destination. This means both of the 428i models command $3,000 more than their respective 328i sedans, and the 435i Gran Coupe costs $2,400 more than a 335i sedan.

The thing is, good as the 4 Series Gran Coupe should be, it hardly seems necessary. But that hasn't stopped BMW before, and the truth is, this could very well be the 3 Series sedan we wanted all along albeit at a price. Have a look below for BMW's official release, and check out the new 4GC for yourself in the extensive gallery above. Be sure to tell us what you think of the new 4 Series Gran Coupe in the Comments, and tell us if you'd take it over a standard 3 Series in our poll below.

BJ
f30jojo commented:
February 2, 2014, 7:31 am

to me, my opinion, they're the same exact car. the differences are so subtle even enthusiasts will have to do a double take to tell the difference between a 3 sedan and 4GC.

On an enthusiast site like this of course we know the differences and options... and ridiculous price to boot. with that being said:

99.9% of the population cant tell you the difference between a 3 series and a 7 series, let alone a 3 and a 4 GC, sales will tell the story soon.

BMW seems like they are consumed by their own success. They are flooding the market with numerous new models before the market (not enthusiasts market) even knows what model is what. I really never saw anything wrong with a 1, 3, 5, 7 line up. now the 2, 4 ,6 and GC and GT variations are just mind boggling... if I see a 2GC im literally giving up on BMW
boltjaM3s commented:
February 2, 2014, 8:04 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by f30jojo View Post
to me, my opinion, they're the same exact car. the differences are so subtle even enthusiasts will have to do a double take to tell the difference between a 3 sedan and 4GC.

On an enthusiast site like this of course we know the differences and options... and ridiculous price to boot. with that being said:

99.9% of the population cant tell you the difference between a 3 series and a 7 series, let alone a 3 and a 4 GC, sales will tell the story soon.

BMW seems like they are consumed by their own success. They are flooding the market with numerous new models before the market (not enthusiasts market) even knows what model is what. I really never saw anything wrong with a 1, 3, 5, 7 line up. now the 2, 4 ,6 and GC and GT variations are just mind boggling... if I see a 2GC im literally giving up on BMW
BMW is merely making niche derivatives of its best-selling car. What's the crime in that?

Put it this way: What appears as 'dumb' and 'silly' and 'repetitive' suddenly makes sense when BMW hits that niche that appeals to you. I myself had no interest in a 3GT or an X1 or an Active Hybrid or a Wagon, they all seem whorish and unnecessary. I didn't blame BMW, they're a big business after all, international too, whatever. But I'm a dad who has lusted for a Coupe for the past 16 years, the age of my eldest son. I was in nothing but Coupes from age 18 to 32 but then you have a kid and two doors just doesn't cut it. Leave it to BMW to read my mind and create a niche car that looks like a Coupe but has those critical 2 extra doors. Touchdown.

The variations aren't "mind boggling". They are custom creations for its customer base. Well done.

BJ
Gary J commented:
February 2, 2014, 8:17 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
Leave it to BMW to read my mind and create a niche car that looks like a Coupe but has those critical 2 extra doors. Touchdown.
Leave it to who to create it?
bmw325 commented:
February 2, 2014, 8:24 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by f30jojo View Post
to me, my opinion, they're the same exact car. the differences are so subtle even enthusiasts will have to do a double take to tell the difference between a 3 sedan and 4GC.

On an enthusiast site like this of course we know the differences and options... and ridiculous price to boot. with that being said:

99.9% of the population cant tell you the difference between a 3 series and a 7 series, let alone a 3 and a 4 GC, sales will tell the story soon.

BMW seems like they are consumed by their own success. They are flooding the market with numerous new models before the market (not enthusiasts market) even knows what model is what. I really never saw anything wrong with a 1, 3, 5, 7 line up. now the 2, 4 ,6 and GC and GT variations are just mind boggling... if I see a 2GC im literally giving up on BMW
Ha- the 2gc is the one model I'd be excited about! An e46 size 4 door would be great.

Anyway- is more choice really a bad thing? I don't think these additional stykes cost them much more to engineer or produce so there's little harm to their bottom line. They can always adjust the mix.


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tlm999 commented:
February 2, 2014, 8:37 am

There appears to be no significant difference between the 3 GT and the 4 GC. What am I missing?
beden1 commented:
February 2, 2014, 9:10 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by tlm999 View Post
There appears to be no significant difference between the 3 GT and the 4 GC. What am I missing?
Maybe someone with skills can post pictures comparing the two side-by-side, but the 4GC looks very similar to the 3GT, to me at least, except the 4GC looks sleeker. I agree that the 4GC looks like a better F30.
tlm999 commented:
February 2, 2014, 9:14 am

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Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
Maybe someone with skills can post pictures comparing the two side-by-side, but the 4GC looks very similar to the 3GT, to me at least, except the 4GC looks sleeker. I agree that the 4GC looks like a better F30.
Agreed. The 4 looks like a slightly updated 3. Options and prices appear to be nearly identical.
captainaudio commented:
February 2, 2014, 9:26 am

I don't find the look as lithe or refined as the 6GC





But it is not an unattractive car by any means.

BentZero commented:
February 2, 2014, 9:33 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
BMW is merely making niche derivatives of its best-selling car. What's the crime in that?

Put it this way: What appears as 'dumb' and 'silly' and 'repetitive' suddenly makes sense when BMW hits that niche that appeals to you. I myself had no interest in a 3GT or an X1 or an Active Hybrid or a Wagon, they all seem whorish and unnecessary. I didn't blame BMW, they're a big business after all, international too, whatever. But I'm a dad who has lusted for a Coupe for the past 16 years, the age of my eldest son. I was in nothing but Coupes from age 18 to 32 but then you have a kid and two doors just doesn't cut it. Leave it to BMW to read my mind and create a niche car that looks like a Coupe but has those critical 2 extra doors. Touchdown.

The variations aren't "mind boggling". They are custom creations for its customer base. Well done.

BJ
I think this is the second time I've agreed with BJ. I'm hoping that BMW doesn't worry about cannibalization (the 3 and 4GC implies that they really don't) and build a 2GC.

Anyway, the 4GC and 2 series AT just prove that the number designations are more about price and prestige than they are number of doors.
bmw325 commented:
February 2, 2014, 9:37 am

Seems like Saab predicted the future with the 1986 Saab 9000. 2.0 turbo, 4 door hatchback.


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captainaudio commented:
February 2, 2014, 9:38 am

Separated at birth.




beden1 commented:
February 2, 2014, 9:42 am

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Originally Posted by captainaudio View Post
I don't find the look as lithe or refined as the 6GC





But it is not an unattractive car by any means.
The 6GC is absolutely beautiful. The only problem I have with it, which is the same as with the Audi A7, is that I have a hard time getting into the back seat as my head keeps hitting when trying to climb through the rear doors and low slung roofline..
Mark K commented:
February 2, 2014, 10:33 am

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Originally Posted by BentZero View Post
I'm hoping that BMW doesn't worry about cannibalization (the 3 and 4GC implies that they really don't) and build a 2GC.
What "cannibalization"? Oh, you mean the mentality of "If I don't have X in the showroom, I'll just upsell them to Y. Win - win!" which served so well Chrysler, Ford and GM?

It is a bit hard to say here because the market is tainted by the stupid mobster-like racket Government puts on any variety of choice in automotive industry, but all those who sell biggest part of their wares in the rest of the world realized long time ago that nobody settles when buying something that often meant years of savings (cars cost a LOT in the rest of the world) - so, if you don't have it in the showroom, somebody else does.

That's why, for example, you could get E9x chassis with 11 different engines in UK. Having 4 to chose from in F3x chassis is unheard of in US, but it pales when compared to choices other people have. Without fear of "cannibalization" or less profits.
boltjaM3s commented:
February 2, 2014, 10:37 am

















Carbon Black over Ivory White M-Sport.

Sold.

BJ
bayoucity commented:
February 2, 2014, 10:44 am

4 GC looks way better than F30. Those frameless windows are icing on the cake.
minn19 commented:
February 2, 2014, 12:11 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
















Carbon Black over Ivory White M-Sport.

Sold.

BJ
They added fogs to Msport, nice!
bayoucity commented:
February 2, 2014, 12:26 pm

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Originally Posted by minn19 View Post
They added fogs to Msport, nice!
Yup, LED too!
minn19 commented:
February 2, 2014, 12:45 pm

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Originally Posted by bayoucity View Post
Yup, LED too!
Sweet!
carzaddict commented:
February 2, 2014, 3:39 pm

The 640 GC was done a lot better.

What they really needed to do was
1) not made the 4 GC
2) gave the 3 series the front and read of the 4.....keeping the midsection the same.
Technic commented:
February 2, 2014, 3:50 pm

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Originally Posted by minn19 View Post
They added fogs to Msport, nice!
I bet $2.00 plus tax that in the USA there will be no fogs...
minn19 commented:
February 2, 2014, 4:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Technic View Post
I bet $2.00 plus tax that in the USA there will be no fogs...
I'll take that bet. Someday I'll probably be PMing you to buy your harness so you can just add it to the bill.
FCBayernFTW commented:
February 3, 2014, 1:11 am

I like it. It looks almost as if they melded the good parts of a 4er with a 3er.

When do we see the M4GC?

...and that's the bottom line
namelessman commented:
February 3, 2014, 12:45 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
The 6GC is absolutely beautiful. The only problem I have with it, which is the same as with the Audi A7, is that I have a hard time getting into the back seat as my head keeps hitting when trying to climb through the rear doors and low slung roofline..
It would be interesting to try the rear seats of 4GC in person. The 4 coupe rear is a bit cramped, while 3GT is quite comfy relative to the 3 sedan. My guess is the missing 5th seat and the large hatchdoor may swing buyer decisions.

BTW, is 6GC(and 4GC?) rear hatchback opening height adjustable, similar to X5?
f30jojo commented:
February 3, 2014, 12:55 pm

I cant help but think when the 3er gets the LED option (LCI?) how the 3er and the 4gc will look eve MORE alike.

I suppose im alone in thinking the 4gc makes no sense. i cant get over it, a 4 door version of a 2 door car, modled after a 4 door car in the first place. THEN giving it 4 doors and calling it a coupe.... what next bmw? a 4 door convertable "gran coupe", seems logical given the recent model.
Gary J commented:
February 3, 2014, 1:18 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by f30jojo View Post
I cant help but think when the 3er gets the LED option (LCI?) how the 3er and the 4gc will look eve MORE alike.

I suppose im alone in thinking the 4gc makes no sense. i cant get over it, a 4 door version of a 2 door car, modled after a 4 door car in the first place. THEN giving it 4 doors and calling it a coupe.... what next bmw? a 4 door convertable "gran coupe", seems logical given the recent model.
They copied Mercedes to stay competitive otherwise they may have not done it.
EC7 commented:
February 3, 2014, 4:49 pm

I think this 4GC is BMW's answer to Audi A5 Sportback.
captainaudio commented:
February 3, 2014, 5:22 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by f30jojo View Post
I cant help but think when the 3er gets the LED option (LCI?) how the 3er and the 4gc will look eve MORE alike.

I suppose im alone in thinking the 4gc makes no sense. i cant get over it, a 4 door version of a 2 door car, modled after a 4 door car in the first place. THEN giving it 4 doors and calling it a coupe.... what next bmw? a 4 door convertable "gran coupe", seems logical given the recent model.
Stay tuned for the 3 Series two door sedan.

jjcruiser commented:
February 3, 2014, 7:02 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
It looks like a 3GT.
It looks like a slimmer, prettier version of a 3GT. Like her younger, hotter, sister.
boltjaM3s commented:
February 3, 2014, 7:24 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by jjcruiser View Post
It looks like a slimmer, prettier version of a 3GT. Like her younger, hotter, sister.
It looks nothing like a 3GT.

It looks like a slimmer, prettier version of an F30. Like her younger, hotter sister-in-law.

BJ
beden1 commented:
February 3, 2014, 7:36 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
It looks nothing like a 3GT.

It looks like a slimmer, prettier version of an F30. Like her younger, hotter sister-in-law.

BJ
Please spin your magic and post side by side pictures of the 4GC versus the 3GT so we can see.
bzcat commented:
February 3, 2014, 7:48 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by tlm999 View Post
There appears to be no significant difference between the 3 GT and the 4 GC. What am I missing?
The main difference is wheelbase and ride height.

3GT used F35 LWB chassis 2910mm wheelbase and rides 2 inches higher than standard F30/31/32/33. When driving the car, it feels like you are sitting on top of the 3GT rather than in it. 3GT is a car trying to mimic a SUV driving characteristic while keeping all the car-like stuff. Also the rear leg room is very generous... think of it as a way for BMW to amortize the cost of chassis related changes it had to make for the F35. The thinking here is taller, longer, higher.

4GC uses F30/31/32/33 chassis 2820mm wheelbase and rides lower than the standard F30/31/32/33. Rear legroom is probably not all that different from F30/31. It should (no one knows yet because no one has driven one) drive like a regular 3/4 series and not like the driving on stilts feeling of 3GT. The thinking here is lower, wider, and just slightly longer.
boltjaM3s commented:
February 3, 2014, 8:00 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
Please spin your magic and post side by side pictures of the 4GC versus the 3GT so we can see.
As soon as How I Met Your Mother and The Bachelor are over, you got it.

BJ
chiba commented:
February 3, 2014, 8:37 pm

Just wanted to say that I'm drooling over this car..
Beautiful!!
shazi00 commented:
February 3, 2014, 8:40 pm

3 still looks like it has better proportions.

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stevehecht commented:
February 3, 2014, 8:53 pm

Appreciation for the exterior of the 4GC vs. the F30 sedan is a completely subjective matter, and the differences, while real, are not huge. I'd guess that most people will make their choice based ultimately on other factors: value/$$$ calculation, appreciation of the liftback vs. a separate trunk (including decreased visibility and higher likelihood of rattles with the liftback), and enhanced color choices for the GC. Another factor is that the GC does not presently offer a diesel or AH option, and that is a determining factor for some (like me).
SilverX3 commented:
February 3, 2014, 9:05 pm

well done

average consumers see little differences
bayoucity commented:
February 3, 2014, 9:15 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
Please spin your magic and post side by side pictures of the 4GC versus the 3GT so we can see.
3GT looks like a hatch & 4 GC doesn't. That's the exterior difference other than 4GC is wider and ride lower.
beden1 commented:
February 3, 2014, 10:18 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
As soon as How I Met Your Mother and The Bachelor are over, you got it.

BJ
Thanks. Something happened to my computer and I can't copy and paste pictures.
boltjaM3s commented:
February 3, 2014, 10:44 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
Thanks. Something happened to my computer and I can't copy and paste pictures.


I think this is the most relevant angle comparing the 3GT and the 4CG.

BJ
bayoucity commented:
February 3, 2014, 10:56 pm

BMW shall give 4GC an active spoiler.
boltjaM3s commented:
February 3, 2014, 10:56 pm



And, for good measure, the same angle comparing the F30 to the 4GC.

BJ
beden1 commented:
February 3, 2014, 11:32 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post


And, for good measure, the same angle comparing the F30 to the 4GC.

BJ
Looking at this picture, you can see where you'll lose head room in the rear seats of the 4GC. The F30 looks good here, especially without the front fender side gills and more pronounced side sculpture. The F30 looks like a cleaner design.
beden1 commented:
February 3, 2014, 11:36 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post


I think this is the most relevant angle comparing the 3GT and the 4CG.

BJ
Here you can see that the 4Gc is wider and sleeker, and the similarity is not much more than a family resemblance. The 4Gc does look good. It makes the 3GT look more like a 5GT which looks bloated.

Thanks for posting the pictures.
boltjaM3s commented:
February 4, 2014, 12:03 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
Looking at this picture, you can see where you'll lose head room in the rear seats of the 4GC. The F30 looks good here, especially without the front fender side gills and more pronounced side sculpture. The F30 looks like a cleaner design.
Definitely going to lose head room for the kids in the back seat but f*** 'em, I've made them comfortable for more than a decade and now it's my turn, the little bastards.

The one thing that really stood out for me is how much shorter the greenhouse is in the 4GC than the F30. On spec, it's only 1.5" lower, but the doors appear to be higher and the roof lower, really has that 6GC feel to it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
Here you can see that the 4Gc is wider and sleeker, and the similarity is not much more than a family resemblance. The 4Gc does look good. It makes the 3GT look more like a 5GT which looks bloated. Thanks for posting the pictures.
The more I see the 4GC the more me likey. The visualizer is up, albeit in German:

http://www.bmw.de/de/neufahrzeuge/4/...isualizer.html

I'm thinking M-Sport Glacier Silver over Coral Red. Was going to get a 4 Cabrio that way, thinking the GC is just as sexy.

BJ
beden1 commented:
February 4, 2014, 12:17 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
Definitely going to lose head room for the kids in the back seat but f*** 'em, I've made them comfortable for more than a decade and now it's my turn, the little bastards.

The one thing that really stood out for me is how much shorter the greenhouse is in the 4GC than the F30. On spec, it's only 1.5" lower, but the doors appear to be higher and the roof lower, really has that 6GC feel to it.



The more I see the 4GC the more me likey. The visualizer is up, albeit in German:

http://www.bmw.de/de/neufahrzeuge/4/...isualizer.html

I'm thinking M-Sport Glacier Silver over Coral Red. Was going to get a 4 Cabrio that way, thinking the GC is just as sexy.

BJ
I just watched the marketing trailer video that was posted. The 4GC does look really good in the pictures and will probably look even better in real life. This is the first F Series (are 4 Series part of the F Series?) that I would seriously consider. I'd say go for it as the 4GC looks like a 3 Series for grownups.
53K commented:
February 4, 2014, 9:01 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by captainaudio View Post
Stay tuned for the 3 Series two door sedan.

samualcc commented:
February 4, 2014, 10:25 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
I just watched the marketing trailer video that was posted. The 4GC does look really good in the pictures and will probably look even better in real life. This is the first F Series (are 4 Series part of the F Series?) that I would seriously consider. I'd say go for it as the 4GC looks like a 3 Series for grownups.
Good, you can finally update your profile picture to something more tasteful
beden1 commented:
February 4, 2014, 12:53 pm

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Originally Posted by samualcc View Post
Good, you can finally update your profile picture to something more tasteful
Like using my Porsche for a profile picture?

On second thought, I'll use a picture of our M3.
sr5959 commented:
February 4, 2014, 2:01 pm

Nice comparison pics BJ! The 4GC looks really good and has gone top of my list to replace my F30 in a year. I was almost certain I would get a 4 Coupe but had a recent vacation visiting family in London and was almost exclusively in 2 door Coupes (E-Class Convertible/A5/3 Series Convertible) and they are just too inconvenient day-to-day.

Also I had a 3GT as a loaner recently, that is a good car if you want huge space in the rear but definitely not a looker!
boltjaM3s commented:
February 4, 2014, 3:24 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by sr5959 View Post
Nice comparison pics BJ! The 4GC looks really good and has gone top of my list to replace my F30 in a year. I was almost certain I would get a 4 Coupe but had a recent vacation visiting family in London and was almost exclusively in 2 door Coupes (E-Class Convertible/A5/3 Series Convertible) and they are just too inconvenient day-to-day.

Also I had a 3GT as a loaner recently, that is a good car if you want huge space in the rear but definitely not a looker!
I'm looking to organize a 4GC group-buy, need to get 10 of us so we can leverage Jon for the Bimmerfest discount.

BJ
beware_phog commented:
February 4, 2014, 3:31 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
Definitely going to lose head room for the kids in the back seat but f*** 'em, I've made them comfortable for more than a decade and now it's my turn, the little bastards.

BJ
Classic.
Gary J commented:
February 4, 2014, 3:46 pm

Jon who?
beware_phog commented:
February 4, 2014, 3:47 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary J View Post
Jon who?
That's be Jon the founder of Bimmerfest.
Gary J commented:
February 4, 2014, 3:49 pm

Oh Mr. Jon Who
sr5959 commented:
February 4, 2014, 5:09 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
I'm looking to organize a 4GC group-buy, need to get 10 of us so we can leverage Jon for the Bimmerfest discount.

BJ
Will this be like the new Sprint 'Framily Plan'???
X3emist commented:
February 4, 2014, 5:51 pm

I dig it, big time!
hellosopo commented:
February 4, 2014, 8:17 pm

I like this a lot, though at the end of the day I can't imagine myself spending an extra $10k to get it. I am really curious about where the F30 LCI will go...
bayoucity commented:
February 4, 2014, 9:30 pm

It's hard to envision how LCI F30 can top 4GC.
boltjaM3s commented:
February 4, 2014, 9:52 pm

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It's hard to envision how LCI F30 can top 4GC.
The 4GC is coming out just as the first set of F30 leases are ready to expire. On a 6 year product cycle, one can bounce between the 3 Sedan and the 4 Gran Coupe every-other-lease and always be in a brand new bodystyle, no LCI's necessary.

Every day there is more win in the 4GC. Thank you BMW.

BJ
bayoucity commented:
February 4, 2014, 11:04 pm

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Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
The 4GC is coming out just as the first set of F30 leases are ready to expire. On a 6 year product cycle, one can bounce between the 3 Sedan and the 4 Gran Coupe every-other-lease and always be in a brand new bodystyle, no LCI's necessary.

Every day there is more win in the 4GC. Thank you BMW.

BJ
Are you going to do European Del this year?
boltjaM3s commented:
February 4, 2014, 11:18 pm

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Are you going to do European Del this year?
I hope to.

The first thing I need to do is call my sales guy and find out when he feels the financials will work well enough for them to buy me out of my lease early. With the demand for this car and relatively short production, it's very likely I'll either have to take a huge hit or wait until Spring '15 which would still be 8 months early but means I've got another year of the F30.

Assuming things work out, yes, really want to do ED this time around. M-Sport, the right suspension, the autobahn will be awesome.

BJ
bayoucity commented:
February 4, 2014, 11:29 pm

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Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
I hope to.

The first thing I need to do is call my sales guy and find out when he feels the financials will work well enough for them to buy me out of my lease early. With the demand for this car and relatively short production, it's very likely I'll either have to take a huge hit or wait until Spring '15 which would still be 8 months early but means I've got another year of the F30.

Assuming things work out, yes, really want to do ED this time around. M-Sport, the right suspension, the autobahn will be awesome.

BJ
Me & Mrs. only have summer months available for ED. I don't believe BMW will release ED slot that soon so I'm out of luck for this year. I hope you get it soon, else we can meet up in Munich next summer .
boltjaM3s commented:
February 4, 2014, 11:37 pm

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Originally Posted by bayoucity View Post
Me & Mrs. only have summer months available for ED. I don't believe BMW will release ED slot that soon so I'm out of luck for this year. I hope you get it soon, else we can meet up in Munich next summer .


Let's do that. I get the one on the right. Race ya to Geneva.

BJ
bayoucity commented:
February 4, 2014, 11:54 pm

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Let's do that. I get the one on the right. Race ya to Geneva.

BJ
LOL. I'll supply the pretzel girl.

Wongway commented:
February 7, 2014, 9:17 am

All these derivatives;
I don't care if they make 100 different takes on the X1, X3, 3/4 series. I want to be able to have the option of getting 320/420/328/428/x1/x3 with Xdrive + manual transmission. Until that happens, I have no interest in these whatsoever. And that's pretty sad when I say that about a BMW product considering its history. Sadly, for all the obvious cost cutting, and cheap nature of my current 2011 328 xdrive sedan, I may hold onto this forever simply because it's the last series I can get with a manual transmission.
bmw325 commented:
February 7, 2014, 9:26 am

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Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
I hope to.

The first thing I need to do is call my sales guy and find out when he feels the financials will work well enough for them to buy me out of my lease early. With the demand for this car and relatively short production, it's very likely I'll either have to take a huge hit or wait until Spring '15 which would still be 8 months early but means I've got another year of the F30.

Assuming things work out, yes, really want to do ED this time around. M-Sport, the right suspension, the autobahn will be awesome.

BJ
You definitely should. And instead of secretly putting 2500 down to keep the payment the same you can openly spend it toward a vacation that both of you will enjoy. That's a win/win.

Have you thought about trying one if those lease swap services if you're trying to get out if your f30 early?


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Chris90 commented:
February 7, 2014, 9:39 am

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Originally Posted by Wongway View Post
All these derivatives;
I don't care if they make 100 different takes on the X1, X3, 3/4 series. I want to be able to have the option of getting 320/420/328/428/x1/x3 with Xdrive + manual transmission. .
Just man up and get rear drive. If you are that concerned about snow get an LSD.
boltjaM3s commented:
February 7, 2014, 11:04 am

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Originally Posted by bmw325 View Post
You definitely should. And instead of secretly putting 2500 down to keep the payment the same you can openly spend it toward a vacation that both of you will enjoy. That's a win/win.

Have you thought about trying one if those lease swap services if you're trying to get out if your f30 early?
I will do anything to get out of my F30 early, so, yes, if a lease swap is something I need to explore as a last resort I definitely will.

I gave my dealer my F36 build, waiting on him to tell me what the pain will be and when its best for me to make the move.

BJ
bayoucity commented:
February 7, 2014, 11:15 am

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Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
I will do anything to get out of my F30 early, so, yes, if a lease swap is something I need to explore as a last resort I definitely will.

I gave my dealer my F36 build, waiting on him to tell me what the pain will be and when its best for me to make the move.

BJ
Bolt, have you tried Carmax? It depends on your RV and payoff which you may come out ahead.
bmw325 commented:
February 7, 2014, 1:26 pm

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Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
I will do anything to get out of my F30 early, so, yes, if a lease swap is something I need to explore as a last resort I definitely will.

I gave my dealer my F36 build, waiting on him to tell me what the pain will be and when its best for me to make the move.

BJ
Is it that you no longer like your f30 or are just in love with f36? It's still fundamentally the same car - so just wondering if its worth all the hassle.


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boltjaM3s commented:
February 7, 2014, 1:44 pm

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Originally Posted by bmw325 View Post
Is it that you no longer like your f30 or are just in love with f36? It's still fundamentally the same car - so just wondering if its worth all the hassle.
Love my F30, just love the F36 more.

I'm a leaser at the halfway point, I'm 18 months in. That's when you're over the hump, the new car smell is gone, the family isn't oohing and aahing any more, the wife isn't begging for sex in the car anymore, the 19 year old strippers at the club aren't asking you for rides anymore. You're not unhappy, but you start thinking of your next ride more and more.

BJ
Gary J commented:
February 8, 2014, 1:50 pm

More information about the paints available -

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AdvancedSpark commented:
June 2, 2014, 11:40 am

For some reason I find 3 series sedan more athletic than the 4 variations. Not particularly more beautiful in comparison, it just looks more familiar considering older 3 series cars.