BMW 3 Series eDrive - Plug-in hybrid in the works

by Tim Jones on February 11, 2014, 6:47 pm
BMW eDrive

At last year's Frankfurt Motor show BMW displayed a plugin hybrid powered F15 X5. The X5 on display was powered by a 4 cylinder TWinPower Turbo engine coupled to a 95 hp electric motor. BMW didn't give a power output for the 4 cylinder engine but we're guessing it was a variant of the N20 found in the 3 series.

The high voltage lithium-ion batteries in the eDrive X5 gave it a range of 19 miles on electric power alone. With three driving modes BMW eDrive also run in a battery saving engine only mode and in hybrid mode merging the power of the gasoline engine and the electric motor.

Over the EU test cycle portly 4680lbs (US spec X5 sDrive 35i) still manage and impressive 62 mpg (units converted) far surpassing the gas engines for economy.

BMW X5 eDrive Hybrid Emerges at the Frankfurt Motor Show

Recently BMW has been spied testing a 3 series with the same front fender access door we saw on the X5 eDrive. BMW said the X5 eDrive was a concept only, but we know they've been testing the drive train technology. Could a BMW 3 series with eDrive be in the works? What do you think of a plug in hybrid 3 series?

BMW 3 series eDrive


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11 responses to BMW 3 Series eDrive - Plug-in hybrid in the works

Nordique commented:
February 12, 2014, 5:17 pm

I like the idea of a plug-in hybrid 3-series, which I can trade in my 2013 F30 for, in nine or ten years--if its performance is equal to or better than my F30!
tim330i commented:
February 12, 2014, 5:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Nordique View Post
I like the idea of a plug-in hybrid 3-series, which I can trade in my 2013 F30 for, in nine or ten years--if its performance is equal to or better than my F30!
N20 making 245hp plus the 95hp electric motor should mean more performance then the N55 335i, while the batteries are charged at least.

Tim
tobyknapp commented:
February 16, 2014, 12:28 pm

I love the idea of it, and admit, I've been intrigued by Tesla's work with their upcoming Model X electric... What would the time frame for release on this be? 5 years? 10? It would seem the sooner the better... assuming BMW's perfected the technology...
tim330i commented:
February 17, 2014, 12:17 pm

I agree, I think it is a great idea. My guess we could see this at F30 LCI or shortly there after.

Tim
ynguldyn commented:
March 11, 2014, 1:55 pm

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Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
I agree, I think it is a great idea. My guess we could see this at F30 LCI or shortly there after.

Tim
That's correct. F30 LCI starts production in July next year, and 328E is SOP 11/15.
tim330i commented:
March 11, 2014, 2:10 pm

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
That's correct. F30 LCI starts production in July next year, and 328E is SOP 11/15.

Where are you getting your info?
pcbrew commented:
March 11, 2014, 3:52 pm

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
That's correct. F30 LCI starts production in July next year, and 328E is SOP 11/15.
I have seen your model/engine data posted a lot of places now.
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Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
F30 320i and 335i LCI SOP 07/15 EOP 10/18. Re-engine with B48B20M0 for 320i and B58B30M0 for 335i.
F30 328i LCI SOP 07/15 EOP 06/16. LCI for F30 and F31 328i continues for one year with the old engine.
F30 328i LCI SOP 07/16 EOP 10/18. Re-engine with B48B20O0.
F30 328E LCI SOP 11/15, EOP 10/18. Introduction of 328E with XB1141M0, plug-in hybrid powertrain. Likely to replace 335iH (no LCI for it).
F30 328d LCI SOP 07/15 EOP 10/18. No new diesels for the US.
But, in the other forum, the reports are that 4cyl engine in the hybrid is ~171 hp, and will come as 320E and not 328E (similar to what they did with the US 328d, which is the 320d everywhere else.
Is there any hard data on what engine and tune comes with that hybrid power train designation?
If the B48B20O0 is the 328i tune, and B48B20M0 is the 320i tune, then would seem the XB1141M0 with "M0" designator may be the 320i version of the engine in the hybrid.

Is your data for US models only? If so, would be interested to see the model designator of the F30 hybrid for the rest of the world.
ynguldyn commented:
March 11, 2014, 4:49 pm

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Originally Posted by pcbrew View Post
But, in the other forum, the reports are that 4cyl engine in the hybrid is ~171 hp, and will come as 320E and not 328E (similar to what they did with the US 328d, which is the 320d everywhere else.
Is there any hard data on what engine and tune comes with that hybrid power train designation?
I don't know what the specifications of that engine are going to be. The 328E designation is what's currently used for that car, but it can change by the time the car goes into production (for example, the current 2 series and 4 series actually started their lives as 1XXi and 3XXi models).
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If the B48B20O0 is the 328i tune, and B48B20M0 is the 320i tune, then would seem the XB1141M0 with "M0" designator may be the 320i version of the engine in the hybrid.
That letter only has meaning as a modifier for the given engine. The "M" only means that it's a midrange tune. Different engines would have different midrange performance.
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Is your data for US models only? If so, would be interested to see the model designator of the F30 hybrid for the rest of the world.
The data is worldwide, and it's 328E for all markets.
ynguldyn commented:
March 11, 2014, 10:32 pm

I double checked: the hybrid's gas engine will be B48 or something based on it.
Nordique commented:
March 11, 2014, 10:39 pm

Now, if the new 328e can show similar numbers to the i8! Still, it might not offer a manual transmission.
pcbrew commented:
March 12, 2014, 12:29 pm

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Originally Posted by Nordique View Post
Now, if the new 328e can show similar numbers to the i8! Still, it might not offer a manual transmission.
I don't think any of the hybrids will have manual option. The ZF 8AT is designed with an option to replace the torque converter with an electric motor.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...c-transmission