What happens when you park your BMW next to a fire hydrant in Boston?

by Bimmerfest.com Member - BostonB6 on April 10, 2014, 10:11 am
The one time (probably not) you happen to park in front of a fire hydrant...and there's an 8 alarm fire? There's not much the firefighters can do, they need to reach the hydrant in order to get the water they need. Let this be a lesson to those who like to block hydrants.

"You can't bend a charged 4-inch feed line. Straight and a slight bend is about as good as you can do. And they will never park in front of a fire hydrant again. Water is everything at a fire and you need it ASAP."




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35 responses to What happens when you park your BMW next to a fire hydrant in Boston?

beden1 commented:
April 10, 2014, 10:16 am

Ouch! Looks like they broke the windows to pass the fire hose through?
Zooks527 commented:
April 10, 2014, 10:27 am

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Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
Ouch! Looks like they broke the windows to pass the fire hose through?
Yup. They also added one hell of a dent to the side in the process,


as well as needing to manually lift/move the car to get that kink out of the hose.



More on the story: http://www.statter911.com/2014/04/09...ton-8th-alarm/

Serves the moron who parked it there right. If there's any justice, he may get his insurance rates cranked in the process of getting it fixed.
BostonB6 commented:
April 10, 2014, 10:31 am

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Originally Posted by beden1 View Post
Ouch! Looks like they broke the windows to pass the fire hose through?
That's exactly what they did....and I hope that was a very leaky hose that they used.

No excuse for parking like that. Especially when we just lost 2 firemen in a tragic 9 alarm fire 2 weeks ago.
hondo402000 commented:
April 10, 2014, 12:33 pm

thats awesome, thats what he deserves, wanna bet he gets a scum bag lawyer and tries to sue the city
kunal_D commented:
April 10, 2014, 12:50 pm

Justice! Hopefully the driver learnt their lesson.
bocabimmer commented:
April 10, 2014, 1:56 pm

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Originally Posted by hondo402000 View Post
thats awesome, thats what he deserves, wanna bet he gets a scum bag lawyer and tries to sue the city

You bet he will. Then after a long and tedious battle, they'll settle. Thousands of dollars will be blown defending the city, and taxpayers will be forced to foot the bill for this in the end anyways. Sad.



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BostonB6 commented:
April 10, 2014, 4:02 pm

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You bet he will. Then after a long and tedious battle, they'll settle. Thousands of dollars will be blown defending the city, and taxpayers will be forced to foot the bill for this in the end anyways. Sad.



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If he's smart, he won't as they will press charges for hindering firefighters in the performance of their duties.

MA General Laws

Section 32A. Whoever willfully obstructs, interferes with or hinders a fire fighter in the lawful performance of his duty, or whoever willfully obstructs, interferes with or hinders a fire fighting force in the lawful performance of its duty, shall be punished by a fine of not less than one hundred nor more than one thousand dollars or by imprisonment in a jail or house of correction for not less than thirty days nor more than two and one half years or by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than five years, or by both such fine and imprisonment in a jail or house of correction.
fun2drive commented:
April 10, 2014, 4:09 pm

Sorry this person was a jackass. I come for a firefighting family and used to see my dad come home with no eyebrows and smoke inhalation other nasty stuff. It is tough enough in crowded Boston when they try to do their job without someone blocking access to the hydrant...
DSXMachina commented:
April 10, 2014, 4:29 pm

In Boston you double park, you block alleys, you park in No Parking areas, in handicapped spaces, you park pretty much anywhere. But everyone knows you don't park in front of a hydrant.

After the Cocoanut Grove and Vendome fires, and now the Brownstone fire, firefighters take a blocked hydrant as a life threatening move.
boramkiv commented:
April 10, 2014, 4:32 pm

I still find it quite funny how they really stress the fact that this car is a BMW, and how many times it's mentioned in the article.
I mean, what if this was a Ford Taurus or something?
BeamerBro commented:
April 10, 2014, 4:40 pm

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I still find it quite funny how they really stress the fact that this car is a BMW, and how many times it's mentioned in the article.
I mean, what if this was a Ford Taurus or something?
Didn't you get the memo.. You're a dbag for driving a BMW. Someone in a ford would never do something like this.
Zeichen311 commented:
April 10, 2014, 5:28 pm

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Originally Posted by DSXMachina View Post
In Boston you double park, you block alleys, you park in No Parking areas, in handicapped spaces, you park pretty much anywhere. But everyone knows you don't park in front of a hydrant.
And you park in all of those places by the Braille method.

That clown is lucky the crew decided it was easier/faster/safer for a half-dozen guys to shift the car by brute force, than to hook a handy length of chain to the undercarriage and drag it sideways with a pumper truck.

I haven't seen one of these incidents in a while. Whenever I do, I always wonder if the firefighters go through the car, rather than over, just to make a point...and then I immediately think: If so--GOOD!
Chris90 commented:
April 10, 2014, 6:17 pm

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Originally Posted by hondo402000 View Post
thats awesome, thats what he deserves, wanna bet he gets a scum bag lawyer and tries to sue the city
It's Boston. All the scumbag lawyers work for the city.
Chris90 commented:
April 10, 2014, 6:18 pm

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Originally Posted by bocabimmer View Post
You bet he will. Then after a long and tedious battle, they'll settle. Thousands of dollars will be blown defending the city, and taxpayers will be forced to foot the bill for this in the end anyways. Sad.
Don't worry, that won't happen here.
07 E63650i commented:
April 10, 2014, 6:24 pm

The owner of that car should know better not to park near a fire hydrant!


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sleeper22 commented:
April 10, 2014, 10:29 pm

This made the National news. NBC to be exact. Driver was fined $150 but not sure what else. I don't see how this dumbass driver has a leg to stand on. He's illegally parked.
wilt commented:
April 11, 2014, 9:42 am

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Originally Posted by BostonB6 View Post
If he's smart, he won't as they will press charges for hindering firefighters in the performance of their duties.

MA General Laws

Section 32A. Whoever willfully obstructs, interferes with or hinders a fire fighter in the lawful performance of his duty, or whoever willfully obstructs, interferes with or hinders a fire fighting force in the lawful performance of its duty, shall be punished by a fine of not less than one hundred nor more than one thousand dollars or by imprisonment in a jail or house of correction for not less than thirty days nor more than two and one half years or by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than five years, or by both such fine and imprisonment in a jail or house of correction.
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This made the National news. NBC to be exact. Driver was fined $150 but not sure what else. I don't see how this dumbass driver has a leg to stand on. He's illegally parked.
If all he got was a $150 fine, then he got off cheap! I wonder what BS he told his insurance company about the damage that needed to be repaired, and what the self-centered butthead's deductible caused him to swallow?!
Vanos4:12PM commented:
April 11, 2014, 11:15 am

He's lucky they didn't take their 30ton firetruck and push it out of the way like it was toy. Dude really got what he deserved for ignoring something so obvious I bet when he parked there he said to himself "what are the chances............."
hotrod2448 commented:
April 11, 2014, 12:51 pm

That guy definitely gambled and lost.

I'm kind of surprised fire fighters don't keep a set of go jacks on the trucks just for expediting dealing with this type of crap.
http://www.zendextool.com/gojak/How-GoJak-Works.html
BostonB6 commented:
April 11, 2014, 1:00 pm

Latest update. The car was bought only 2 days prior!
dms540i commented:
April 11, 2014, 11:42 pm

What a *********.
ShaverZBT commented:
April 12, 2014, 12:17 am

The asshole who drove this should be **** on and banned from buying a BMW forever.
datpoet commented:
April 12, 2014, 4:16 pm

A fool and his bimmer.....
alpinweiss commented:
April 14, 2014, 12:03 pm

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Originally Posted by hotrod2448 View Post
I'm kind of surprised fire fighters don't keep a set of go jacks on the trucks just for expediting dealing with this type of crap.
http://www.zendextool.com/gojak/How-GoJak-Works.html
This seems like a much more logical solution. They could have simply rolled the car out of the way, instead of causing so much damage to the vehicle. Did the fact that the car was a BMW play a part in this?

I will not judge the driver, without knowing the specific situation. A poor parking job could be the result of being in some kind of emergency situation; or it could simply be the only available place for an ailing parent to get out of the car and into his/her wheelchair.

All of us have a responsibility to be civil, even in bad circumstances.

Boraxo commented:
April 16, 2014, 1:00 am

One of the few situations where I support deliberate damage to a vehicle. Any jackass who leaves his vehicle in front of a hydrant gets what he deserves. Very popular video on youtube.
BashedBarrique commented:
April 16, 2014, 2:14 am

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One of the few situations where I support deliberate damage to a vehicle. Any jackass who leaves his vehicle in front of a hydrant gets what he deserves. Very popular video on youtube.
Doing whatever was necessary to get that hose on the hydrant as fast as possible is completely understandable and justified. Purposely and needlessly damaging private property is not.

We don't allow cops to beat people up even if they are guilty and we shouldn't let firefighters take revenge on people that park illegally. Two wrongs don't make a right.

The person that parked that car in front of the hydrant faces expensive and punitive actions including, fines, points on their license and having their car towed and impounded and probably faces other legal sanctions if the delay caused by their actions caused loss of property or loss of life.

They certainly deserve those legal actions. They don't deserve having a bunch of angry firefighters acting illegally to needlessly damage their car. If the damage was all done incidental to getting that hose on quickly and efficiently, great the person can't complain.

But if any of the damage was done to punish the driver then the firefighters are guilty of a crime.

We expect people to obey the law and that includes firefighters. There is no place for vigilante justice especially by the people that we trust to protect us.
wilt commented:
April 16, 2014, 10:06 am

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They don't deserve having a bunch of angry firefighters acting illegally to needlessly damage their car. If the damage was all done incidental to getting that hose on quickly and efficiently, great the person can't complain.

But if any of the damage was done to punish the driver then the firefighters are guilty of a crime.

We expect people to obey the law and that includes firefighters. There is no place for vigilante justice especially by the people that we trust to protect us.
Firefighters lay their life on the line for you and me, and they dislike the fact that some of the budget-preserving station closures made necessary due to crimped municipal budgets in recent years will result in "60 second longer average response times for affected residents" because of relying upon the remaining nearby fire station. If 60 seconds is so critical to hooking up a hose and fighting a fire in your house, I don't think you'd necessarily be as tolerant! From a graphic on relationship of response times and extent of damage...

BostonB6 commented:
April 16, 2014, 10:15 am

I don't know if everyone here knows the congestion in East Boston. It's a very old part of town with houses tightly packed together and very tight street access. The fire occurred on a windy night and even one minute can make a difference between containing the fire to a single building or the entire block going up. I don't think the damage was malicious in any way but I also don't think anyone feels bad for the owner at all.

Found these quotes from officials.

“Fire is unpredictable. We don’t know when it’s going to happen and in East Boston at the height of that fire, we were trying to keep the fire to just the buildings that were involved. East Boston is tightly congested,” began Steve MacDonald, a spokesman with the Boston Fire Department. “The fire could spread rapidly and so it’s important to get water from all sides on it as quickly as possible. And with that irresponsible driver parking there, it just prevented the firefighters from using that particular engine as quickly as they should have.”

Boston Police say a report has not been filed against the owner of the vehicle. The damage the car sustained as a result of the incident is at the owner’s expense.

"That's proof right there that fire happens and, you know, I don't really care about the damage of the car. You can't park your car there," said Boston Mayor Marty Walsh.
galahad05 commented:
April 16, 2014, 11:10 am

Thanks for the info BostonB6! BB6 for short.

Good to hear official reaction.
8355adam commented:
April 16, 2014, 11:21 am

As a firefighter/EMT i can tell you guys that they probably didnt intend to cause extra damage...there is just too many other things to be occupied with on a fire ground. I can also tell you guys that the extra dent you see in the side was probably caused by hose when it was charged with water and being advanced through the cars windows. 6 inch soft sleeves are pretty strong even on hydrant pressure.
sunny5280 commented:
April 16, 2014, 11:21 am

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This seems like a much more logical solution. They could have simply rolled the car out of the way, instead of causing so much damage to the vehicle. Did the fact that the car was a BMW play a part in this?

I will not judge the driver, without knowing the specific situation. A poor parking job could be the result of being in some kind of emergency situation; or it could simply be the only available place for an ailing parent to get out of the car and into his/her wheelchair.

All of us have a responsibility to be civil, even in bad circumstances.

I'm sure there's some one off example of why someone may need to park next to a fire hydrant (I do not consider your ailing parent to be valid) however I suspect that's unlikely to be the case here. I'd say the vast majority of time people do it because they just don't care.
ptrcd003 commented:
April 16, 2014, 11:23 am

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Originally Posted by wilt View Post
Firefighters lay their life on the line for you and me
Nobody is arguing that they shouldn't do what it takes to do their job safely. If they have to damage a vehicle to do their job, more power to them. If they deliberately/unnecessarily cause damage to prove a point, then its an issue. You could say that a cop lays his life on the line, but that doesn't give him the right to beat a suspect to a pulp once caught.
alpinweiss commented:
April 16, 2014, 11:30 am

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Originally Posted by sunny5280 View Post
I'm sure there's some one off example of why someone may need to park next to a fire hydrant (I do not consider your ailing parent to be valid) however I suspect that's unlikely to be the case here. I'd say the vast majority of time people do it because they just don't care.
Again, I do not know the specific circumstances of the owner; but neither did the fire department. BashedBarrique put it more eloquently than I did. The FD has the right to take necessary action to fight the fire, but malicious damage is inexcusable.

wilt commented:
April 16, 2014, 11:40 am

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Originally Posted by ptrcd003 View Post
Nobody is arguing that they shouldn't do what it takes to do their job safely. If they have to damage a vehicle to do their job, more power to them. If they deliberately/unnecessarily cause damage to prove a point, then its an issue. You could say that a cop lays his life on the line, but that doesn't give him the right to beat a suspect to a pulp once caught.
You extracted one phrase from my message out of context, as if I was justifying damage to the car! No...the point was
  • They do lay their life on the line for you and me
  • They care about increased cost of damage to you and me due to 60 seconds delay
  • They certainly care about increasing their own risk to their lives because the fire has had 60 sec. more to build and become uncontrollable.

And all that is true whether not there was any malicious intent to deliberately damage the car (which I was not at all even debating nor condoning!)

Add to the above, is the mention of the E.Boston congestion and caring about not spreading fire to adjacent property. Very similar to SF where homes typically have zero space between adjacent homes.
Boraxo commented:
April 18, 2014, 5:15 pm

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Originally Posted by BashedBarrique View Post
Doing whatever was necessary to get that hose on the hydrant as fast as possible is completely understandable and justified. Purposely and needlessly damaging private property is not.
Sorry I wasn't clear and thanks for blowing it out of proportion.

It was not my intention to suggest that fireman should trash every car parked in front of a hydrant for the fun of it. As I've made clear many time, property rights are not as well respected under the law as they should be, and property crimes are often not prosecuted.

That being said, the damage to the car was deliberate not accidental - they purposely smashed the window to run the hose through it) - but it was a byproduct of necessity not malicious intent. I think everyone here (except you) is in agreement that is was 100% justified and appropriate under the circumstances.

And yes, I am uncharistically delighted to see it as I am pretty certain the owner is a DYKWIA type not some clueless teen who stopped by with a pizza.