BMW to Replace Passenger-side Front Airbags in 2000-06 3 Series, As a Precaution

by Bimmerfest.com Member - Washburn on June 28, 2014, 12:32 pm
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/06/23/a...rd-and-toyota/

Quote:
"BMW is recalling an undisclosed number of 325i, 325Xi, 330i and 330Xi models from the 2001 through 2005 model years and the 2001-2006 model year versions of the 325Ci and 330Ci for the driver side and passenger side inflators. Only vehicles currently registered in Florida, Puerto Rico, Hawaii and the US Virgin Islands are covered under this recall."
FULL PRESS RELEASE:

BMW
RECALL Subject : Frontal Air Bag Inflators may Rupture
Report Receipt Date: JUN 20, 2014
NHTSA Campaign Number: 14V348000
Component(s): AIR BAGS
Potential Number of Units Affected: 0
All Products Associated with this Recall
Vehicle Make Model Model Year(s)
BMW 325CI 2001-2006
BMW325I 2001-2005
BMW325XI 2001-2005
BMW330CI 2001-2006
BMW330I 2001-2005
BMW330XI 2001-2005

Details
Manufacturer: BMW of North America, LLC

SUMMARY:
BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is conducting a limited regional recall for certain model year 2001-2005 325i, 325xi, 330i, and 330xi, and 2001-2006 325Ci and 330Ci vehicles currently registered in Florida, Puerto Rico, Hawaii and the U.S. Virgin Islands, and equipped with Takata-brand air bag inflators. Upon deployment of the driver side and/or passenger side frontal air bag, excessive internal pressure may cause the inflator to rupture.

CONSEQUENCE:
In the event of a crash necessitating deployment of either of the frontal air bags, the inflator could rupture with metal fragments striking and potentially seriously injuring the vehicle occupants.

REMEDY:
BMW will notify owners, and dealers will replace the frontal air bag(s) free of charge. This recall is expected to begin during August 2014. Owners may contact BMW Customer Relations at 1-800-525-7417.

NOTES:
Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov.


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165 responses to BMW to Replace Passenger-side Front Airbags in 2000-06 3 Series, As a Precaution

crowz commented:
June 28, 2014, 4:01 pm

Err k. Why only those states?
Washburn commented:
June 28, 2014, 5:05 pm

Has to do with high humidity - so only states with high humidity (hopefully this is only for now, and will expand later...)
I am in NC - I think it's pretty humid here!
Bigsean123 commented:
June 28, 2014, 6:44 pm

Yeah I also live in nc and it's very humid all summer long.


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racin366 commented:
June 28, 2014, 6:52 pm

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Yeah I also live in nc and it's very humid all summer long.


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I grew up in south floriduh and spent time in nc, you folks have no idea what humid is. None.
Bigsean123 commented:
June 28, 2014, 7:35 pm

Lol yea I just read up on the humidity stats online comparing Florida and NC and yeah we're safe up here in NC.


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crowz commented:
June 28, 2014, 8:49 pm

We have overage 90% or higher humidity here in ne alabama. Its 96% outside right now at 72 degrees. So yeah I know what humidity is like

Luckily my 2000 isnt in the year ranges nor my wifes 97 528i.
racin366 commented:
June 29, 2014, 9:40 am

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Originally Posted by crowz View Post
We have overage 90% or higher humidity here in ne alabama. Its 96% outside right now at 72 degrees. So yeah I know what humidity is like

Luckily my 2000 isnt in the year ranges nor my wifes 97 528i.
The numbers don't tell the whole story, in south floriduh there's the atlantic ocean, 10 miles of developed land, 65 miles of everglades swamp, 10 miles of land, and then the gulf. You sweat, but it doesn't cool at all, you just get soaked because it can't evaporate. In the morning it feels like you have to swim to your car and from there it just gets worse. But 9 months a year it rains briefly at 3 in the afternoon, you can set your watch by it.
racin366 commented:
June 29, 2014, 9:44 am

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Originally Posted by Bigsean123 View Post
Lol yea I just read up on the humidity stats online comparing Florida and NC and yeah we're safe up here in NC.


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I'm in Atlanta now and it makes me laugh when people whine about it being hot and humid. It was low 90's this week, but felt like mid 80's in soflo. Come winter you folks will get you laughs at me, if it goes below 70 down there it's time to break out the jackets, I got here in December and it was a huge adjustment, the only things that get cold down there are beverages.
CoupeGal commented:
June 29, 2014, 11:02 am

So if you ever MOVE to one of these states or DRIVE through one of these states, are you automatically eligible?
Fast Bob commented:
June 29, 2014, 1:40 pm

Lived in Looziana for a brief spell....outside of Southeast Asia, that was the most brutal humidity I`ve ever experienced....in the morning, it can be 60 degrees, but you work up a sweat just walking across the street....
crowz commented:
June 29, 2014, 1:53 pm

Back when I had a bounty hunting company I spent time in some interesting (swampy) parts of florida and have visited louisiana and mississippi. Humidity wise for some screwball reason north east alabama around cheaha mountain here has super bad humidity. Birmingham is pretty dry and montgomery is super low humidity. The humidity here stays summer and winter which makes summer miserable and winter brutal.

Wifes got relatives from minnesota that visit sometimes that tell us they go out in short sleeve shirts in the 40's there and they bundle up like its a blizzard when they are here at 60 degrees. The humidity and the cold is unbearable to them when they come down to visit.

Im kinda of used to it now I guess.
alpinweiss commented:
June 29, 2014, 4:51 pm

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Originally Posted by CoupeGal View Post
So if you ever MOVE to one of these states or DRIVE through one of these states, are you automatically eligible?
I would hope so. If you can drive THROUGH Hawaii, Puerto Rico, or Virgin Islands, you should be eligible for SOMETHING.

crowz commented:
June 29, 2014, 5:03 pm

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Originally Posted by alpinweiss View Post
I would hope so. If you can drive THROUGH Hawaii, Puerto Rico, or Virgin Islands, you should be eligible for SOMETHING.

Bernie@Bimmerfest commented:
July 16, 2014, 7:37 am

”airbag”

Woodcliff Lake, N.J. – July 16, 2014 – … BMW announced today that it has informed the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) of the company’s intent to voluntarily recall all model year 2000 – 2006 BMW 3 Series vehicles, produced between May 1999 and August 2006, to replace the passenger-side front airbag as part of a worldwide recall. Potential problems with the airbag inflator which may rupture in vehicles produced by other manufacturers using similar systems from the same supplier have become evident in rare cases. BMW is not aware of a case involving a BMW vehicle. The replacement campaign is a voluntary precautionary measure that aims at minimizing the risk of faulty airbag activation. The number of potentially affected vehicles in the US is approximately 574,000.

This is a voluntary extension of the recall campaign announced in May 2013. At that time, the supplier stated a production period during which potentially faulty airbag inflators were installed in passenger-side front airbags. Following this, BMW recalled 42,000 3 Series vehicles in the US. The supplier has now extended the production period.

In order to ensure maximum safety of our customers, BMW has decided to replace the passenger-side front airbags in the vehicles from the suggested production period, and additionally as a voluntary precautionary measure, the passenger-side front airbags in all model year 2000 – 2006 BMW 3 Series vehicles equipped with this airbag module. The 42,000 units recalled in May 2013 are excluded from the current replacement campaign.

BMW will notify customers with potentially affected vehicles will be informed by mail. Customers with questions should contact BMW Customer Relations at 1-800-525-7417 or email customer.relations@bmwna.com.
crowz commented:
July 16, 2014, 12:46 pm

Interesting. So now I get to decide if I want to drive 100 miles one way to get this done. Also they better do it while I wait
1972ford commented:
July 16, 2014, 1:02 pm

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Interesting. So now I get to decide if I want to drive 100 miles one way to get this done. Also they better do it while I wait
I'm not much closer to a dealer than you; it would be a precious half-day off work to get it done, and that's if they are able to do it while I wait as you said.

On a side note, did anyone else notice that the driver's door in the picture isn't lined up perfectly with the front quarter panel? It caught my eye...
OscarN commented:
July 16, 2014, 1:46 pm

Well, how long will the dealer take doing the job?

My dealer isn't that far (30 minute drive). I can go today as long as they get it done while I drink all their coffee.

You have an eye for detail, 1972.

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adamrosee commented:
July 16, 2014, 2:10 pm

I've been looking into recalls here recently, thanks for your education!
harleyrob commented:
July 16, 2014, 2:13 pm

I may have missed it. Is there a time limit on getting it replaced? Meaning, do you have to go to the dealership say by December 2015? I mean, what if your car isnt even running right now and cant drive it an hour one way for installation? Make sense?
bimmerized commented:
July 16, 2014, 7:53 pm

anyone get the letter yet? I'm wondering if I'll be contacted given that I'm the second owner.

Anyone have the fix done? how long did it take them?
OscarN commented:
July 16, 2014, 8:34 pm

Well, according to this link, it takes around one hour to do. Not sure how they're going to contact us though.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/bm...ags-83984.html
jadyn2021 commented:
July 16, 2014, 9:06 pm

So i had my tail lights fixed a few years back, now this.

Its great the recall is this public.

Anyone know , or where i can check what other safety free fixes I might have outstanding?

2003 325i


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G. P. Burdell commented:
July 16, 2014, 9:36 pm

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Originally Posted by bimmerized View Post
anyone get the letter yet?
It took a few weeks for me to receive the letter after BMW NA announced the tail light recall.

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Originally Posted by jadyn2021 View Post
Anyone know , or where i can check what other safety free fixes I might have outstanding?
First, you can find a list of recalls (titles only, no text) somewhere on alldata.com.

Second, your local BMW dealer service advisor should be able to look up your car's VIN to find out which recall services the dealer network has performed, and which recalls or service bulletins are outstanding.

If your car has received recall service(s), you may find BMW NA recall campaign stickers applied somewhere in the engine bay or in the driver's door jamb. The sticker lists the recall campaign number and identifies the dealer that performed the service. They were (and may still be) used to mark cars that had been serviced as part of a particular recall campaign. The idea was for the dealer technician to apply the sticker after finishing the work, but I don't think every dealership bothered to use the stickers.
Scott ZHP commented:
July 17, 2014, 8:49 am

This is likely a $100 million oopsie. Ouch.
JKenshi commented:
July 17, 2014, 9:26 am

I checked with my local dealer... they have no active recalls showing for my car. So, either it hasn't hit their system yet, or it's not EVERY e46. They confirmed that letters will go out and are tracked by VIN, so it goes to the current owner.
davidmaria1 commented:
July 17, 2014, 9:27 am

Go to a BMW dealer. Ask an advisor to do a key-read. That will show any open campaigns. Any decent dealer will do this key-read willingly and politely. The dealer gets paid to do recalls, the advisor is paid commission, and they also get to recommend other services while the car is in.
Stop guessing.
1972ford commented:
July 17, 2014, 10:30 am

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Originally Posted by davidmaria1 View Post
Go to a BMW dealer. Ask an advisor to do a key-read. That will show any open campaigns. Any decent dealer will do this key-read willingly and politely. The dealer gets paid to do recalls, the advisor is paid commission, and they also get to recommend other services while the car is in.
Stop guessing.
Right, or call with your VIN because many people do not live anywhere near a dealer. And if you have a title to your car, you'll get a letter. My father still gets letters from Ford for his 1997 F250.
bimmerized commented:
July 17, 2014, 2:18 pm

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Originally Posted by jadyn2021 View Post
So i had my tail lights fixed a few years back, now this.
When was the tail light recall? which E46s did they impact? I never got a letter for that one either...
MalibuMafiaV commented:
July 17, 2014, 3:20 pm

That'd be nice if they had a recall like this for the passenger side in the M5's. That damn sensor on the seat of mine use to go on and off. But hasn't done it in a long time now that I think about it....
sridario commented:
July 17, 2014, 3:36 pm

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Originally Posted by bimmerized View Post
When was the tail light recall? which E46s did they impact? I never got a letter for that one either...
2011. This link has more info:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...+ground+recall

I had already fixed my symptomatic tail light by adding a second ground path, but when I went to my dealer for the passenger side airbag recall last year (my car fell into the 2013 limited recall VIN range in Canada), they saw this as an outstanding recall and applied their fix to both sides. As said before, have your dealer run the VIN to see what recalls are pending for your vehicle.
jadyn2021 commented:
July 17, 2014, 4:18 pm

So I called my dealership and they told me my 2003 325i's VIN didn't qualify for the recall or need it. Which is odd.

They also told me, that this recall is only for 06-09 models. So THAT'S INTERESTING.

They are also backed up to early September because because BMW NA is only letting them do 3 repairs per week, (her words were that BMW NA only are giving them enough parts to do 3 per week) and can only be done during mon-friday, since the repair can take up to six hours. I work during their service hours so we'll see.

I called BMW NA Cust relations, they know less than whats been released on the press.
Michael Schott commented:
July 17, 2014, 5:41 pm

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Originally Posted by jadyn2021 View Post
So I called my dealership and they told me my 2003 325i's VIN didn't qualify for the recall or need it. Which is odd.

They also told me, that this recall is only for 06-09 models. So THAT'S INTERESTING.

They are also backed up to early September because because BMW NA is only letting them do 3 repairs per week, (her words were that BMW NA only are giving them enough parts to do 3 per week) and can only be done during mon-friday, since the repair can take up to six hours. I work during their service hours so we'll see.

I called BMW NA Cust relations, they know less than whats been released on the press.
Your dealer is wrong from everything I've read This applies only to E46 cars.
Gryphon commented:
July 17, 2014, 7:59 pm

I called the dealership here and they told me that we should recieve a letter by first class mail around the first week in august.

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jadyn2021 commented:
July 17, 2014, 11:25 pm

I also called BMW NA customer relations, they also told me my vin has no recalls.

So my guess is they don't even know whats going on, their systems probably aren't updated yet with the full extent of the recall.
bluebee commented:
July 18, 2014, 1:02 am

Apparently the Takata airbag sprays shrapnel into the cabin, at least according to this reference:
- BMW Recalls 1.6 Million Cars Over Air Bag Problems
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The passenger airbag doesn't inflate properly. That can lead to metal fragments shooting out of the airbag compartment, essentially spraying the interior of the vehicle with shrapnel.
For the record, here are some related recall links:
- How to report a BMW safety problem to the National Highway Traffic & Safety Administration for a product recall (1) and what E39 safety repair problems have already been reported to the NHTSA (1) & the safercar.gov recall search engine (1) & how to find out if your BMW is involved in a recall (1) (2) (3) (4)

See also:
- BMW to recall 1.6 million cars on concerns over Takata air bags
- BMW Joins Other Auto Makers in Replacing Defective Takata Part
- BMW recalling all 2000-06 3 Series models over airbags in US, 1.6M globally
- BMW Recalls 1.6 Million Cars Over Air Bag Problems
- BMW Recalls 156,000 Vehicles With 6-Cylinder Engines
Formula 1 commented:
July 18, 2014, 2:36 pm

How do they contact people who are not the first owner of the car?


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jadyn2021 commented:
July 18, 2014, 2:42 pm

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How do they contact people who are not the first owner of the car?


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they dont.

You have to call bmw na customer relations and update the ownership of the vin. they'll ask you for the last 7 digits
Formula 1 commented:
July 18, 2014, 3:42 pm

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they dont.



You have to call bmw na customer relations and update the ownership of the vin. they'll ask you for the last 7 digits

Just did that, thanks!


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TacoBuster commented:
July 18, 2014, 11:58 pm

I called.. Updated the vin info with mine.. So now waiting till mid august to see if my car is one of the recalled vins
OscarN commented:
July 19, 2014, 12:00 am

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Originally Posted by TacoBuster View Post
I called.. Updated the vin info with mine.. So now waiting till mid august to see if my car is one of the recalled vins
Guess I will be calling tomorrow then. What exactly do they ask for? Registration paper and VIN# correct?
TacoBuster commented:
July 19, 2014, 2:20 am

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Originally Posted by OscarN View Post
Guess I will be calling tomorrow then. What exactly do they ask for? Registration paper and VIN# correct?

I just waited for the speak with a rep option.. After I just said I wanted to know if my vehicle was up for recall due to the recent airbag thing mentioned and that I wanted to update my info on my vehicle. All they ask is for full name, address, email if you want to add one where they will send you some info on future stuff and last 7 of vin.. You can have them check if there are any open recalls on your vehicle.


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OscarN commented:
July 22, 2014, 1:21 pm

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Originally Posted by TacoBuster View Post
I just waited for the speak with a rep option.. After I just said I wanted to know if my vehicle was up for recall due to the recent airbag thing mentioned and that I wanted to update my info on my vehicle. All they ask is for full name, address, email if you want to add one where they will send you some info on future stuff and last 7 of vin.. You can have them check if there are any open recalls on your vehicle.


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OscarN commented:
July 23, 2014, 3:26 am

Bump! Just so new members and anyone else that missed this thread knows about the recall.
FredoinSF commented:
July 23, 2014, 12:05 pm

I was at a SF Bay Area dealership yesterday for pre paid maintenance on the X5 and asked about the recall. First, the SA said he knew nothing about it (not surprised), then he said that it was only some vehicles and not all. I asked him to look up my VIN and it came up with no recalls. Based on that I am not sure if it is all E46's.
The X5 will be going back for another maintenance dealio in the next 60 to 90 days so I'll ask again if I don't get a recall notice by that time.
bluebee commented:
July 23, 2014, 2:57 pm

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Originally Posted by FredoinSF View Post
First, the SA said he knew nothing about it (not surprised),
What's shocking is how little the SAs actually know as, I've asked them questions that I later find out the answers to, which they SHOULD know.

So, the fact they say they don't know can only mean one of two things, neither of which is a good thing:
a) They're ignorant of the basics involved with their job, or,
b) They're telling a salesman-style fib.

There are no other options (do you know of any other reason)?

Anyway, I came here for a different purpose, that to give you guys a PDF that is an absolutely fantastic document, which describes how the BMW SRS system airbags are triggered and how they work (from BMW Marketing, no less), but with absolutely gorgeous pictures that anyone trying to better understand this problem can benefit from ...

See also:
- How do BMW Supplemental Restraint Systems (srs, airbag, bst, crush zones, etc.) really work (1) & what is the cheapest usable BMW airbag srs reset/scan tool on the net (1) & what other scan tools reset the fault (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) & what can cause a BMW SRS airbag light (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) & a cn90 DIY for replacing the driver seat belt buckle pretensioner and the passenger seat emulator (1) (2) & where to obtain an airbag occupancy sensor bypass unit (0) (1) (2) & what happens when we disconnect the airbag before the battery or we connect the battery before disconnecting the airbag in seat and window regulator repairs (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8)
bimmer765 commented:
August 23, 2014, 9:35 pm

Ive been to my bros house lousiana and I had never seen morning dew and humidity like that and this was in October. Although I think we had them beat here in Illinois today. I called BMW about the recall and the guy said notices should be arriving in the mail.

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G. P. Burdell commented:
September 12, 2014, 7:07 pm

Here's a New York Times article, published this week, with details as to how we got here.

Takata and Honda reportedly knew about problems with Takata's airbags as early as 2004. After assuring BMW in 2010 that there was not a problem with airbags supplied to BMW, Takata changed its position and informed BMW in 2013 that the airbags might be susceptible to spraying metal fragments at their users.

Air Bag Flaw, Long Known to Honda and Takata, Led to Recalls
Fast Bob commented:
September 12, 2014, 8:22 pm

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Originally Posted by G. P. Burdell View Post
Here's a New York Times article, published this week, with details as to how we got here.

Takata and Honda reportedly knew about problems with Takata's airbags as early as 2004. After assuring BMW in 2010 that there was not a problem with airbags supplied to BMW, Takata changed its position and informed BMW in 2013 that the airbags might be susceptible to spraying metal fragments at their users.

Air Bag Flaw, Long Known to Honda and Takata, Led to Recalls
So basically what they`re saying is that it`s like a .410 shotgun shell loaded with birdshot going off a foot away from your face....nice....
John Davis commented:
September 13, 2014, 1:37 am

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Originally Posted by Washburn View Post
Has to do with high humidity - so only states with high humidity (hopefully this is only for now, and will expand later...)
I am in NC - I think it's pretty humid here!
You're not kidding? How does humidity trigger this airbag defect?
G. P. Burdell commented:
September 13, 2014, 8:21 am

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Originally Posted by John Davis View Post
How does humidity trigger this airbag defect?
It's explained in the NYT article I posted above. The propellant is highly sensitive to contamination by moisture, which makes it unstable and prone to "overly energetic combustion." Some of the propellant was suspected to have been improperly stored at Takata's Mexican factory.

Humidity was just one of the suspects Takata investigated while they, Honda, and regulators dragged their feet in warning the public about the defect. Other theories included flaws in the propellant packaging process at a U.S. factory, as well as U.S. workers' circumvention of a QA/QC procedure that would have rejected substandard parts.
STS42 commented:
September 15, 2014, 5:37 pm

I received the recall notice today and live I Massachusetts, they will send another notice when they have parts
John Davis commented:
September 15, 2014, 5:40 pm

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Originally Posted by STS42 View Post
I received the recall notice today and live I Massachusetts, they will send another notice when they have parts
I just got my recall notice today as well, and I live in California, so I guess they're going nationwide with it now.
Fast Bob commented:
September 15, 2014, 6:58 pm

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Originally Posted by John Davis View Post
I just got my recall notice today as well, and I live in California, so I guess they're going nationwide with it now.
I got the notice today as well.... (NJ)
OscarN commented:
September 15, 2014, 7:39 pm

I still haven't received mine...
1972ford commented:
September 15, 2014, 7:56 pm

I got 2 in the mail today, and now I'm wondering why the guy I sold my car to in July didn't get the notice instead of me... A little VIN research is due I guess. He best have applied for a title...


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ahull commented:
September 15, 2014, 9:07 pm

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I received the recall notice today and live I Massachusetts, they will send another notice when they have parts
Same here .....North Carolina. It must be expanding.


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bimmer765 commented:
September 15, 2014, 9:09 pm

From IL got mine today.

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bluebee commented:
September 15, 2014, 10:33 pm

See also:
- BMW to Replace Passenger-side Front Airbags in 2000-06 3 Series, As a Precaution
bluebee commented:
September 15, 2014, 10:34 pm

See also:
- (E46) BMW airbag inflator recall
bluebee commented:
September 15, 2014, 10:55 pm

NY Times article on what happened.

Quote:
Between late 2001 and late 2002, workers at a Takata factory in Monclova, Mexico, had left out moisture-sensitive explosives on the plant floor, making them prone to “overly energetic combustion,”
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Takata engineers next linked the defect to its factory in Moses Lake, Wash. Between 2000 and 2002, a flaw in a machine that presses air bag explosives into wafers had made the explosives unstable
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In the following months, Takata engineers came up with yet another explanation for the ruptures: Beginning in September 2001, machine operators at the Moses Lake plant could have inadvertently switched off an “auto reject” function that weeded out poorly made explosives that can become unstable
airwrenchBKL commented:
September 15, 2014, 11:03 pm

I'm in northern Ohio and I got my notice today. I'm kind of surprised, as I just bought the car on the memorial day weekend and licensed it 28 days later.
catso commented:
September 15, 2014, 11:17 pm

Has anyone actually had their questionable airbag replaced yet? I received the notice letter today, and it says that BMW NA does not have the parts yet, but will notify me when they become available.
Bimmer03e46 commented:
September 16, 2014, 12:37 am

My SRS light came on last Monday. I had just had the car detailed and picked it up so I thought they had done something to my baby. Called the dealership (even with no active recalls) and they told me about this (could be why the light went off). Needless to say i'm taking it in Friday to get looked at!!

I'm in Ontario too btw ... i don't know if it's this specific recall but it would be a pretty big coincidence!
crowz commented:
September 16, 2014, 3:08 am

LOL Epic recall fail

Got the notice and it reads basically your cars effected by this recall but we dont have any parts to actually put on your car but if we do get some one day we will notify you again.
bimmerlife99 commented:
September 16, 2014, 6:32 am

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Originally Posted by crowz View Post
LOL Epic recall fail

Got the notice and it reads basically your cars effected by this recall but we dont have any parts to actually put on your car but if we do get some one day we will notify you again.

Yea I saw this pretty embarrassing for bmw. Im sure a lawsuit can be file as you should be able to claim your car is unsafe to drive if you ever were in an accident.

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ahull commented:
September 16, 2014, 7:25 am

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Originally Posted by crowz View Post
LOL Epic recall fail

Got the notice and it reads basically your cars effected by this recall but we dont have any parts to actually put on your car but if we do get some one day we will notify you again.
I've actually gotten two from honda just like this in the past year. One for a fuel pump connection and one for a yaw sensor. Parts came in within 90 days. It may be standard practice when the parts aren't available in large quantities, vs. just a labor/supplies kind of fix.

My guess is that it is to try to limit liability by making the driver aware of a potentially unsafe condition, thereby spreading fault to a driver driving a known unsafe car.
bimmerlife99 commented:
September 16, 2014, 8:22 am

Unsafe if the manf. Made it unsafe of course with neglect to fully test product before placing it on the market. If I was a good lawyer, easy case to make.

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1972ford commented:
September 16, 2014, 8:27 am

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Originally Posted by airwrenchBKL View Post
I'm in northern Ohio and I got my notice today. I'm kind of surprised, as I just bought the car on the memorial day weekend and licensed it 28 days later.
I guess it depends on when BMW pulled the data from various DMV resources, and how quickly (ha!) each DMV processes the title applications. I'm in NH and sold my car into Maine in July, and I still got the notice for the sold car. However, I bought my new E46 at the same time and I got the notice for that one too... So clearly BMW has current info for one car but not the other, sold at about the same time, but into different states.

I noticed that they include a little card to fill out the new owner's information, which I guess I'll have to do too. And clearly they recognize that many of these cars may have changed hands between when they pulled the data and when the mail is arriving.
OscarN commented:
September 16, 2014, 5:12 pm

Just got mine. Now we wait.

Does anyone know if they'll provide loaner cars?
TacoBuster commented:
September 16, 2014, 8:21 pm

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Originally Posted by crowz View Post
LOL Epic recall fail



Got the notice and it reads basically your cars effected by this recall but we dont have any parts to actually put on your car but if we do get some one day we will notify you again.

Its just another way of saying " Were still trying to figure out whats the cheapest and safest way to fix yet another one of our failures.."

Just got mine today... Now we wait untill they stock up on airbags..
TacoBuster commented:
September 16, 2014, 8:22 pm

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Originally Posted by OscarN View Post
Just got mine. Now we wait.

Does anyone know if they'll provide loaner cars?

I wanna get an M6 as a loaner...
Mixedup commented:
September 16, 2014, 9:25 pm

Owned my car for 2 months, still got the recall - impressed, but called dealer and they said "4 weeks before they have parts - call back after you get letter saying parts are in .... "

SO, do I drive the car with no passenger and or the family for a month ...... or ?

Like all are saying a "Good or OK" lawyer should have a heyday with this recall -

one passenger in an accident in the next 4 weeks is going to make a Lawyer a millionaire!
PancakeBimmer commented:
September 16, 2014, 9:38 pm

Got mine today, Oregon. Had anyone called BMW to see if replacement can be installed by third party?
bluebee commented:
September 17, 2014, 1:23 am

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Originally Posted by ahull View Post
My guess is that it is to try to limit liability by making the driver aware of a potentially unsafe condition, thereby spreading fault to a driver driving a known unsafe car.
We don't have the recall in our Takata airbag explosive mixes, so presumably we won't get the shrapnel cutting out carotid arteries like you E46 guys will, but, for you guys, what are you supposed to do differently now that you know there is a potential danger?

Wear helmets?
ahull commented:
September 17, 2014, 6:26 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebee View Post
We don't have the recall in our Takata airbag explosive mixes, so presumably we won't get the shrapnel cutting out carotid arteries like you E46 guys will, but, for you guys, what are you supposed to do differently now that you know there is a potential danger?

Wear helmets?
Apparently drive another car if we want to avoid complicity. Of course, the easy fix is to not have anyone in the passenger seat during this time..... go limo style Or disconnect the passenger sensor on the seat. They won't have an airbag, but at least you can still use the car without fear of mutilation from the IED in the dash

The recall is expanding so don't count out the 39ers just yet!
crowz commented:
September 17, 2014, 6:27 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebee View Post
We don't have the recall in our Takata airbag explosive mixes, so presumably we won't get the shrapnel cutting out carotid arteries like you E46 guys will, but, for you guys, what are you supposed to do differently now that you know there is a potential danger?

Wear helmets?
> Full Body Armor <
For enjoying the ultimate combat zone
Mychal commented:
September 21, 2014, 11:25 pm

I got the same notice. I laughed a little. "There is a recall, but sorry, we can't fix it yet."

I'm making my purse ride in the back seat, just to be safe.


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Rob325_in_AZ commented:
October 3, 2014, 7:24 pm

Anybody had there's fixed yet?

I just got my letter this week. Sure would be nice to know approximately when my car will be 'safe' to drive with a passenger again.

Oh, and as I'm in AZ, I guess that rules out the humidity theory
m123 commented:
October 3, 2014, 7:37 pm

^just call and ask if they have the bags (i had mine replaced no issues ) took 45min they are probably assuming folks will call and will do them but officially have not given the green light (probably do not want a stampede)
Rob325_in_AZ commented:
October 3, 2014, 7:40 pm

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Originally Posted by m123 View Post
^just call and ask if they have the bags (i had mine replaced no issues ) took 45min they are probably assuming folks will call and will do them but officially have not given the green light (probably do not want a stampede)
Thanks! I'll give them a call.
G. P. Burdell commented:
October 20, 2014, 8:43 pm

Oh, joy. After reviewing new test results from the airbag manufacturer, NHTSA is now urging owners of affected vehicles to get the airbags replaced immediately:

Defect in Takata Air Bags Prompts Urgent Warning to Drivers
PancakeBimmer commented:
October 20, 2014, 9:57 pm

So does airbag deploy without a cause? Is it limited to a specific manufacturer (Takata)?
Might as well remove that sucker
Fishful Thinking commented:
October 20, 2014, 10:10 pm

BMW sent me the recall letter which stated in part that they did not have the airbags in stock, but I'd be contacted as soon as they were. Well, I waited for a month without any further contact. Laat week I went to the dealership to buy some new wiper blade inserts, and while I was there asked a service rep when he thought the bags would be in. He said they were available, and made me an appointment to have them replaced today. So DON'T WAIT FOR BMW TO CONTACT YOU. Sorry Bob, I know I'm shouting.
Fishful Thinking commented:
October 20, 2014, 10:12 pm

And while they had my car, they washed and vacuumed it, and adjusted the parking brake for free! Kudos to Clif at BMW of Bellevue.
floydarogers commented:
October 20, 2014, 10:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Fishful Thinking View Post
And while they had my car, they washed and vacuumed it, and adjusted the parking brake for free! Kudos to Clif at BMW of Bellevue.
Cliff is the best SA there, by far. Love his piercings and grooming, too. (although it's totally not me.)
Fishful Thinking commented:
October 20, 2014, 10:56 pm

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Originally Posted by floydarogers View Post
Cliff is the best SA there, by far. Love his piercings and grooming, too. (although it's totally not me.)
Today his lime green tie matched the cashier's fingernail polish. Hmmmmm.
quentin99 commented:
October 21, 2014, 12:02 am

Bought my car a about 2 weeks ago. Looked up recalls a few days later. Airbag's getting replaced on the 27th.
Guwapo_808 commented:
October 21, 2014, 10:37 pm

got mine done last week took about a 10 days for the airbag to arrive here in Hawaii at Honolulu BMW, they had it for about 6 hours since I was about 25th in line for the day. Can't complain they dropped me off then picked me up which is about 20 miles 1 way, and returned it washed and vacuumed out. Not bad for a $0 cost repair


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FredoinSF commented:
October 21, 2014, 11:31 pm

Now you can spend an afternoon polishing the swirl marks they left on your paint. I always ask for no wash, they don't always comply.
G. P. Burdell commented:
October 22, 2014, 8:39 am

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Originally Posted by FredoinSF View Post
I always ask for no wash, they don't always comply.
In addition to asking your Service Advisor to not wash the car, place a large note that reads "PLEASE DO NOT WASH" in the cabin - preferably on the dashboard or the steering wheel. This polite visual reminder helps to keep our cars out of the dealer's wash bay.
Brucifer325 commented:
October 22, 2014, 8:59 am

I never received a letter, so I called BMWUSA yesterday and they said to call the local parts department to see if they have the new air bags in stock and to schedule a replacement from there. I'll get it done, but I like a piece of paper with a letterhead to avoid any hassles.
1972ford commented:
October 22, 2014, 9:49 am

I just called my "local" dealer and they do have the parts in stock. Also verified that my VIN was part of the recall, I guess not all '01 - '04 E46 are affected.

Anyway I am just confirming for others that, while I haven't gotten a second letter, they do have parts and I was able to get an appointment. I figure, the sooner the better.
bluebee commented:
October 24, 2014, 12:19 am

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Originally Posted by ahull View Post
The recall is expanding so don't count out the 39ers just yet!
For the record, I just opened a thread to figure out specifically WHY the E39's aren't (apparently) affected:
- Why exactly are the E39 airbags NOT involved in the massive Takata SRS airbag recall?
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebee View Post
This thread is opened simply to answer the specific question of why exactly are our E39 airbags NOT involved in the BMW recall of shrapnel-producing Takata airbags (especially the E39s manufactured in late 2001, like mine, and early 2002)?


For background, the canonical E46 thread on the Takata airbag recall is:
- BMW to Replace Passenger-side Front Airbags in 2000-06 3 Series, As a Precaution (06-28-2014)

Here's a revealing post from that canonical thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by G. P. Burdell View Post
It's explained in the NYT article I posted above. The propellant is highly sensitive to contamination by moisture, which makes it unstable and prone to "overly energetic combustion." Some of the propellant was suspected to have been improperly stored at Takata's Mexican factory.

Humidity was just one of the suspects Takata investigated while they, Honda, and regulators dragged their feet in warning the public about the defect. Other theories included flaws in the propellant packaging process at a U.S. factory, as well as U.S. workers' circumvention of a QA/QC procedure that would have rejected substandard parts.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebee View Post
NY Times article on what happened.

Quote:
Between late 2001 and late 2002, workers at a Takata factory in Monclova, Mexico, had left out moisture-sensitive explosives on the plant floor, making them prone to "overly energetic combustion,"
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Takata engineers next linked the defect to its factory in Moses Lake, Wash. Between 2000 and 2002, a flaw in a machine that presses air bag explosives into wafers had made the explosives unstable
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In the following months, Takata engineers came up with yet another explanation for the ruptures: Beginning in September 2001, machine operators at the Moses Lake plant could have inadvertently switched off an "auto reject" function that weeded out poorly made explosives that can become unstable
Given the information above, it seems confusing which things are involved, but some of the culprits are: ((1) the brand of the airbags (Takata) and (2) the origination and date of the explosive mix (Mexico, Washington) and (3) the registered location of the car (high humidity states) seems to be the key factors in deciding which car to recall.

Which of those factors above don't we have on the E39?
a. Takata?
b. Mexico/Washington?
c. Time frame?
bluebee commented:
October 26, 2014, 10:29 am

BTW, apparently this isn't a "recall", but a "field action", according to this article today ...
G. P. Burdell commented:
October 26, 2014, 11:27 am

Other manufacturers may be treating this fiasco as a "field action," but BMW is indeed treating it as a recall. The notice that has gone out via mail to E46 owners is labeled "IMPORTANT SAFETY RECALL," and the first line states, "This notice is sent to you in accordance with the requirements of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act."

BMW's recall campaign also comes up in a search of NHTSA's recall database.
FredoinSF commented:
October 29, 2014, 1:14 pm

Had the airbag replaced yesterday. I asked the service advisor who manufactures the replacement units and it was fairly obvious that (1) no one had asked before and (2) he had not idea but (3) he said he would find out.
He was MIA when I picked up the car so never got to verify (3) for sure and he's not replying to voice mails.
Anyone here know?
bluebee commented:
October 30, 2014, 1:04 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by G. P. Burdell View Post
Other manufacturers may be treating this fiasco as a "field action," but BMW is indeed treating it as a recall.
That's good, because that would mean (a) all states, not just high-humidity states, are covered, and (b) that they attempt to reach you more thoroughly, and (c) that they report back to the NHTSA more details.

If they're doing all that, then, yes, they're treating it as a "recall".
Scott ZHP commented:
October 30, 2014, 9:22 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebee View Post
If they're doing all that, then, yes, they're treating it as a "recall".
It even has a recall campaign assigned: 14V-428

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/...tsa_ids=14V428
catso commented:
October 31, 2014, 4:10 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by FredoinSF View Post
Had the airbag replaced yesterday. I asked the service advisor who manufactures the replacement units and it was fairly obvious that (1) no one had asked before and (2) he had not idea but (3) he said he would find out.
He was MIA when I picked up the car so never got to verify (3) for sure and he's not replying to voice mails.
Anyone here know?
Very good question...........
peace1969 commented:
November 1, 2014, 9:42 am

Hi all i know this issue has been covered before, but i didn't know about it! Anyway i took my car to the stealer's for a service. Good job i did otherwise i would have been non the wiser. I only decided to keep the full service history going at the last minute! Anyway my question is why didn't the stealer's send me a letter so i could have had my airbag changed a lot sooner. Has anyone else had the same issue with them?
Tommy D commented:
November 1, 2014, 10:32 am

The dealerships don't want a stamped of customers, plus I read online somewhere that there is a shortage of airbags as BMW is not the only car company with this problem. Glad you got it sorted and replaced. I have yet to do mine.
G. P. Burdell commented:
November 1, 2014, 11:25 am

A couple of recent developments:
FredoinSF commented:
November 1, 2014, 11:39 am

Long thread on this airbag recall already. BMW sent the letter, it was misleading because it said owners would be notified when parts were available. That second notice never happened but the parts are there.
Now why would you expect the dealer to notify you? If I'm a dealer and I have a specific budget for marketing, why would I spend it on customers with cars that are 8 to 15 years old, many of whom I have not seen since the moment the warranty expired and most of whom no longer own the car. The communication falls on BMW, not the dealer in this case.
dasmako commented:
November 1, 2014, 1:05 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob325_in_AZ View Post
Anybody had there's fixed yet?

I just got my letter this week. Sure would be nice to know approximately when my car will be 'safe' to drive with a passenger again.

Oh, and as I'm in AZ, I guess that rules out the humidity theory
Recently contacted the chapman (I am in AZ too), and they said they still don't have parts and would call in 3 weeks when parts arrive. I've been waiting to replace it.
bluebee commented:
November 2, 2014, 12:41 pm

There's a new problem, found today, but it doesn't affect BMW (yet) ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebee View Post
Looks like Takata reported ANOTHER (different) problem with their airbags, which were manufactured with a wrong part installed.
bluebee commented:
November 2, 2014, 12:43 pm

I don't remember if it was posted already, but here's the official BMW letter ...
- BMW-confirmation-letter_Takata-RCDNN-14V348-2345.pdf

Here's a low-res screenshot of that PDF, but, a key point is that I don't see the "legal" word "recall" anywhere in this particular formal letter.

G. P. Burdell commented:
November 2, 2014, 4:13 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebee View Post
Here's a low-res screenshot of that PDF, but, a key point is that I don't see the "legal" word "recall" anywhere in this particular formal letter.
The letter you posted is stamped with the campaign number 14V-348, which according to NHTSA's recall database was initiated in June 2014. It is a far smaller action related to 11,600 cars in high-humidity areas.

The broader campaign for which we have all received recall letters was initiated about a month after campaign 14V-348. This campaign is numbered 14V-428 and affects nearly 574,000 vehicles throughout the United States. The phrases "safety recall" and "recall campaign" can be found throughout the NHTSA-archived correspondence related to campaign 14V-428. BMW's four-page letter dated July 15 references the smaller campaign in high-humidity areas, though not by number.
Dokebi25 commented:
November 2, 2014, 7:36 pm

I'm taking mine in for the recall next week. I did get a letter informing me of the recall but no follow up as to when they would be available. But after all the news coverage, I decided to go to the dealer and just inquire about it. And wouldn't you know it, it was available on a first-come, first-served basis. The service rep said they weren't actively notifying people because they didn't want a mad rush of cars to fix. I was a little shocked at the statement. Some sort of notice would have been nice.
Fast Bob commented:
November 2, 2014, 7:51 pm

The airbag failures seem to be concentrated mostly in areas with a predominantly a hot & humid climate, so they`re concentrating their efforts for replacement in those areas first....
RJ commented:
November 4, 2014, 1:34 pm

I called the dealer when I received the notice a few weeks ago but these days the waiting is six weeks for service and no loaner available either.
bluebee commented:
November 4, 2014, 10:51 pm

If any of you get a chance, can you snap a picture of the problematic airbags so we can determine what the markings look like for those made in the problematic Mexico and Utah facilities?

Here's what we're looking at on the E39, so far, from this thread:
> E39 (1997 - 2003) > Why exactly are the E39 airbags NOT involved in the massive Takata SRS airbag recall?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebee View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nfs021 View Post
Well I checked my airbags.
Thank you very much for checking your 2002 540i airbag manufacturer for the team!

Looking a bit closely at your photos, your passenger side airbag picture seem to show a "TRW Alfdorf" airbag.

- TRW Safety Systems, Airbags

However, your steering wheel airbag is clearly Takata.

Your steering wheel airbag appears to indicate the name "Sachsen":

Sachsen appears to be in Germany:

What worries me a little bit is the Herstellar Inflation Systems (Georgia, USA), also on that steering wheel airbag tag.

"Herstellar" doesn't appear to be a German city, nor a German word.
All my searches for "Herstellar" in "Georgia" boomerang right back as "Takata":

But, we know that "Inflation Systems" is (apparently) an affected facility (which touts that they were permitted in only 45 days!)

Is the "Herstellar Inflation Systems (Georgia, USA)" the same as the "Inflation Systems" in Moses Lake?
I certainly hope not, since Moses Lake, Washington is one of the implicated sites (along with a site in Monclova, Mexico).
G. P. Burdell commented:
November 5, 2014, 7:22 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebee View Post
If any of you get a chance, can you snap a picture of the problematic airbags so we can determine what the markings look like for those made in the problematic Mexico and Utah facilities?
I don't have any photos to share, but in the photo of the steering wheel airbag, the heading "Hersteller" (not "herstellar") is the German word for manufacturer. So the company name is not Hersteller Inflation Systems; it is simply Inflation Systems.
1972ford commented:
November 5, 2014, 9:03 am

I'm having mine replaced next Wednesday, I can try to get a detailed pic if the service guys are willing.
Tommy D commented:
November 5, 2014, 6:10 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1972ford View Post
I'm having mine replaced next Wednesday, I can try to get a detailed pic if the service guys are willing.
Great, today I called the service department at my local dealership and they put me on a waiting list. They told me they will call when they have the parts, they are still waiting for them.
1972ford commented:
November 7, 2014, 11:03 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy D View Post
Great, today I called the service department at my local dealership and they put me on a waiting list. They told me they will call when they have the parts, they are still waiting for them.
... yeah ...about that. Update from my local dealer is that they ran out of parts and don't know when they'll have more. So I went from being proactive and making an appointment as soon as I could fit it in my schedule, to having no appointment and being on a "we'll call you" list. I don't use these stupid icons much but really, all I can say is:

It's like the Seinfeld with the rental car agency:

I'm sorry sir we don't have a car available.
Do you have my reservation?
Yes right here.
Do you understand what a reservation is for?
Yes of course sir.
I'm not sure that you do!




I'm sure they expected to get a shipment of more parts but didn't. It still pisses me off.
wdaveweaver commented:
November 7, 2014, 2:54 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Bob View Post
The airbag failures seem to be concentrated mostly in areas with a predominantly a hot & humid climate, so they`re concentrating their efforts for replacement in those areas first....
Yup like here in Houston, TX. Got mine replaced last week, no wait.
1972ford commented:
November 7, 2014, 4:29 pm

Forgive me if this has already been posted, but this is a very detailed Q&A that the dealer sent me. It answers a lot of questions that people have been asking in this thread and others, and some that haven't been asked. It's worth a read if you're unclear on any aspect of this recall, the differences between the various campaigns and timing of same, which cars (and how many) are included in what; as I said it's quite thorough.

tl;dr - if you have a question about this recall, I practically guarantee it's answered in the attached PDF. Which is 7 pages long and you should read it.

Happy Friday night!
G. P. Burdell commented:
November 7, 2014, 8:45 pm

Former Takata employees say company executives ordered data and potential fixes destroyed in 2004, after three months of secret testing and development.

Takata Saw and Hid Risk in Airbags in 2004, Workers Say
bluebee commented:
November 7, 2014, 9:47 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by G. P. Burdell View Post
the heading "Hersteller" (not "herstellar") is the German word for manufacturer. So the company name is not Hersteller Inflation Systems; it is simply Inflation Systems.
That makes sense, since "Inflation Systems" kept coming up when I googled for "Herstellar Inflation Systems".

Thanks for clarifying.
See also:
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobdmac View Post
Bluebee, "Hersteller" means "producer" or "manufacturer." "Einführer" means "importer." So the "Gas Generator" was made in Georgia by "Inflations Systems, Inc." and imported by Takata in the Land, or equivalent of "state" of "Sachsen," or "Saxony" in English, and the town of Elterlein. Thus, "Takata (Sachsen) GmbH". By the way GmbH is the equivalent of "incorporated." It means "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung."

For instance, Hannover is in the state of Niedersachsen, or "Lower Saxony."
GoForthFast commented:
November 8, 2014, 2:16 am

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Originally Posted by wdaveweaver View Post
Yup like here in Houston, TX. Got mine replaced last week, no wait.
And yet up in the PA mountains my dealer got it in two days when he put in the order for my car. Go figure
Dokebi25 commented:
November 8, 2014, 3:38 pm

Just got a call from dealer and had to cancel my appointment because they wouldn't be getting their shipment as scheduled. It was for the drivers side airbag and now I have to worry about the passenger side too. Funny how they didn't tell me about that one when they looked up my vehicle vin #.
G. P. Burdell commented:
November 8, 2014, 7:24 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dokebi25 View Post
Just got a call from dealer and had to cancel my appointment because they wouldn't be getting their shipment as scheduled. It was for the drivers side airbag and now I have to worry about the passenger side too. Funny how they didn't tell me about that one when they looked up my vehicle vin #.
Since you mentioned that you're waiting for your driver's airbag to be replaced, is your car one of those 12,000 or so that are covered under BMW's "special technical campaign" in Florida, Hawaii and Puerto Rico?
Dokebi25 commented:
November 8, 2014, 7:43 pm

No. I'm in Virginia.
FredoinSF commented:
November 8, 2014, 8:30 pm

Everything I have read about the Takata airbags in regards to the E46 has been about the passenger side. Not heard of a recall for the driver's side.

Do you have an NHTSA campaign number?
G. P. Burdell commented:
November 8, 2014, 9:10 pm

At present, there is no formal recall on the driver's airbag; BMW is engaging in a "special technical campaign" in high-humidity states. The campaign number is 14V-348. BMW's and Takata's goal is to collect driver's airbags for testing to see if the inflators have been adversely affected by long-term exposure to high humidity.

Member 1972ford posted a handy informational PDF to the main discussion thread on the airbag recall. It explains everything.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...&postcount=111

Dokebi25, could your car have been previously registered in one of the high-humidity states or Puerto Rico?
John in VA commented:
November 9, 2014, 12:03 am

I called my closest dealer (BMW of Sterling) yesterday to find out the latest. They are awaiting parts, but the techs are prepared to do the swap. Said it would take ~1 hour.
Dokebi25 commented:
November 9, 2014, 7:50 am

Oops. Never mind about what I said about the drivers-side airbag.
need4speed commented:
November 9, 2014, 8:10 am

dealers
G. P. Burdell commented:
November 13, 2014, 8:20 pm

This week's news:

Interestingly, the airbag linked to the death in Malaysia was manufactured at a Takata facility in middle Georgia that is now closed. Previously, Takata and Honda had only mentioned quality control problems at facilities in Mexico and in Washington state.
bluebee commented:
November 20, 2014, 4:42 pm

This week's news:
Takata went before the Senate this week, who said there may be up to six deaths due to the defective airbag inflators sending shrapnel into the cabin.

Apparently the regulators called for a nation-wide recall, instead of just the localized field repairs, at least for the driver-side airbags.
G. P. Burdell commented:
November 20, 2014, 7:07 pm

The New York Times also reported this week on how Takata chose ammonium nitrate as its airbag propellant, despite the concerns expressed by its engineering team:

Takata's Switch to Cheaper Airbag Propellant is at Center of Crisis
G. P. Burdell commented:
November 21, 2014, 8:49 pm

A couple more stories:

BMW says Takata will move its manufacturing of BMW airbag inflators from Monclova, Mexico, to Freiberg, Germany.
BMW says its Takata inflator work moving from Mexico to Germany

The Takata plant in Mexico, under pressure to meet rising demand for inflators, has had problems with quality. Also, it blew up in 2006.
Plant with troubled past at center of Takata air bag probe

EDIT: Perhaps most importantly for E46 owners, BMW told NHTSA this week that it has advised dealers to instruct customers not to allow anyone to sit in the front passenger seat until the airbag has been replaced.
Eight automakers outline Takata recall plans to US safety regulators

And lastly, if you want to see what will happen when your car finally gets its replacement airbag, here's the BMW TSB posted to NHTSA's Web site:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...4V428-8917.pdf
AusieE46 commented:
November 25, 2014, 10:04 pm

Recall in Australia as well
G. P. Burdell commented:
December 2, 2014, 6:40 pm

NHTSA demanded that Takata widen its recall by midnight tonight, but Takata is digging in its heels:

Takata Resists Midnight Deadline to Expand Airbag Recall
Stahlblau commented:
December 3, 2014, 5:57 pm

of the passenger (front) airbag. They said a "shipment of replacement parts was LOST" and that I would be contacted when the parts were in stock. They initially offered me a loaner vehicle-but I told them I would wait for the repair to be done (if the R/R could be done in less than 3 hr). When I reschedule, I will get the loaner...
PancakeBimmer commented:
December 5, 2014, 4:24 pm

I was working near fusebox area and realized that airbag was right there Pulled that sucker out for good I suppose. Does anyone know if the recall has to be done by the dealer or can they swap the bags and let 3rd party install it? Meanwhile, how do I keep this sucker safe from imploding?


G. P. Burdell commented:
December 5, 2014, 8:52 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by PancakeBimmer View Post
I was working near fusebox area and realized that airbag was right there Pulled that sucker out for good I suppose. Does anyone know if the recall has to be done by the dealer or can they swap the bags and let 3rd party install it?
You'll have to discuss it with your service advisor. However, when you consider that BMW dealers have to record airbag serial numbers as part of the recall and warranty paperwork and then return the defective airbags to BMW NA, I think it's safe to assume that they will insist on doing the work at their facility.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PancakeBimmer View Post
Meanwhile, how do I keep this sucker safe from imploding?
Store it, right side up, on a solid surface in a cool, dry room where absolutely no one (especially pets or kids) can get to it.

Thanks for posting the photo of the markings on the airbag. According to the label, the inflator (gasgenerator) was apparently manufactured at Takata's now-closed Inflation Systems facility in LaGrange, Georgia. An inflator produced for Honda by the LaGrange facility is believed to be responsible for the death of a pregnant Malaysian woman a few months ago.
bluebee commented:
December 6, 2014, 12:03 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by G. P. Burdell View Post
The broader campaign for which we have all received recall letters was initiated about a month after campaign 14V-348. This campaign is numbered 14V-428 and affects nearly 574,000 vehicles throughout the United States. The phrases "safety recall" and "recall campaign" can be found throughout the NHTSA-archived correspondence related to campaign 14V-428. BMW's four-page letter dated July 15 references the smaller campaign in high-humidity areas, though not by number.
Thank you for those details, as the wording is legally precise in the letters.

Since I posted the 2-page "348" letter, by way of comparison, here is the newer 4-page "428" letter.

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This recall campaign involves the passenger-side frontal air bag system with integrated inflator. In recall campaign 13V-172, BMW communicated that certain frontal passenger-side inflators manufactured between April 13, 2000 and September 11, 2002 at Takata's Moses Lake, WA plant may have been produced with an insufficient compaction force. In addition, certain inflator propellant wafers contained within inflators produced between October 4, 2001 and October 31, 2002 at Takata's Monclova, Mexico plant may have been exposed to an uncontrolled environment involving excessive moisture in their facility. If the propellant were to degrade, then this could create a condition of excessive internal pressure within the air bag system inflator during an air bag deployment. If the pressure were of a sufficient severity, it would cause the inflator housing to rupture, possibly causing an injury.

Also, NHTSA and Takata recently brought to BMW's attention that the frontal passenger-side inflators produced from June 1, 2000 to July 31, 2004 may potentially rupture during air bag deployment after long-term exposure to high absolute humidity environments due to unknown reasons.

Based on a recent review of airbag deployment incidents, BMW has now concluded that the design of the frontal passenger-side airbag module with its integrated inflator, an excessive internal pressure of the inflator potentially could result in an increased risk of airbag-induced injuries in a deployment event, even if the inflator doesn't rupture.
peace1969 commented:
December 9, 2014, 10:23 am

Hi i had call from BMW about replacing front passenger airbag module yesterday. When i had my car serviced a few weeks ago the adviser stated to me the airbag module had been done as well! So now today i received a letter today Vehicle Safety Recall stated the parts are still on back order. So i don't understand what the adviser dealing with my request was on about! Anyway i phoned the dealer today and they have confirmed to me it hasn't been done as yet. So be careful ladies and gents.
G. P. Burdell commented:
December 11, 2014, 7:46 am

Some background information on the chemical propellant in Takata's inflators:
Airbag Compound Has Vexed Takata for Years
bimmerboy93 commented:
December 12, 2014, 9:10 am

I've been told that my 02 325i with 111,000 miles has a recall on te airbags but they don't have in in the country or in Germany and I live in mississippi
peace1969 commented:
December 15, 2014, 5:23 pm

Hi all i had a call from my dealer today they now have my replacement passenger airbag module in stock. So my car is booked for to tomorrow morning to have it fitted!!
peace1969 commented:
December 16, 2014, 4:51 am

What a palaver i took my to the dealer today to be told my car airbag had been changed when my car was last serviced! The issue was the technician didn't take the renewed module part number down so that the adviser could update my car records on the computer!
catso commented:
December 16, 2014, 11:33 am

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What a palaver i took my to the dealer today to be told my car airbag had been changed when my car was last serviced! The issue was the technician didn't take the renewed module part number down so that the adviser could update my car records on the computer!
Tell them to send some here, I have been waiting over 3 months now.
Stahlblau commented:
December 17, 2014, 4:37 pm

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of the passenger (front) airbag. They said a "shipment of replacement parts was LOST" and that I would be contacted when the parts were in stock. They initially offered me a loaner vehicle-but I told them I would wait for the repair to be done (if the R/R could be done in less than 3 hr). When I reschedule, I will get the loaner...
I scheduled the replacement online at the dealership that sold the car to the original owner. Initially, they said the recall could be fulfilled in January 2015. A short time later, someone from the dealership called to tell me the repair date would be "indefinite." I told them I understood the problems with Takata, but wanted their statement regarding fulfillment of the recall in writing... The asst. service manager later returned my call to say there had been cancellations by owners of recalled vehicles; he let me choose the date & time of the replacement. The work should be complete by 3 p.m. today.
harleyrob commented:
December 17, 2014, 5:17 pm

Called the dealership today to check on the status of parts. I called them a month ago. The lady proceeded to inform me that I didnt give them my vin # so they havent ordered the part. B&** S%&^!! Of course I gave my vin #. She also told me that about 8 owners had called since I first called and they would be in front of me for service. Frustrating to say the least!!
G. P. Burdell commented:
December 17, 2014, 9:35 pm

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The asst. service manager later returned my call to say there had been cancellations by owners of recalled vehicles; he let me choose the date & time of the replacement. The work should be complete by 3 p.m. today.
Nice! Those impatient customers who cancelled are going to regret it.
Stahlblau commented:
December 17, 2014, 10:20 pm

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Nice! Those impatient customers who cancelled are going to regret it.
yes sir...

work complete!
G. P. Burdell commented:
December 18, 2014, 8:17 pm

NHTSA said this week that it's prepared to force Ford, Chrysler and BMW to recall more cars for defective driver airbags. One wonders which BMW models have defective driver airbags...

NHTSA to 'force' air bag recall; new chief confirmed
Stahlblau commented:
December 19, 2014, 2:44 pm

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NHTSA said this week that it's prepared to force Ford, Chrysler and BMW to recall more cars for defective driver airbags. One wonders which BMW models have defective driver airbags...

NHTSA to 'force' air bag recall; new chief confirmed
I sent this e-mail:

TO: customerrelations@bmwusa.com
Subject: e46 front airbags

Dear BMW,

Its time to include the replacement of the FRONT DRIVER SIDE AIRBAG in the Takata airbag recall!

As you can see FORD has already done so: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102276866#.

Do it (include the front driver side airbag) at least BEFORE Chrysler does so…

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response from BMW Customer Relations

Dear --------:

Thank you for writing to BMW of North America, LLC regarding our voluntary safety recall for model year 2000-2006 BMW 3 Series vehicles to replace the passenger-side front airbag.

The driver’s front airbag is not subject to this recall. To date, BMW is not aware of any driver front airbag deployment with inflator rupture, either in the field or in tests. However, BMW is cooperating with the supplier and NHTSA to collect some driver-side front airbags in select markets for the purpose of examination and testing.

BMW remains committed to maintaining the highest level of automotive excellence. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience if your vehicle be affected by this recall.

The BMW Customer Relations and Services Department is available Monday through Friday from 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m., ET. You can reach us at 1-800-831-1117.

Sincerely,

Matthew Martin
Customer Relations and Services
Representative

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G. P. Burdell commented:
December 19, 2014, 10:29 pm

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Dear BMW,

Its time to include the replacement of the FRONT DRIVER SIDE AIRBAG in the Takata airbag recall!

As you can see FORD has already done so: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102276866#.

Do it (include the front driver side airbag) at least BEFORE Chrysler does so…
Too late...BMW is now the only manufacturer to not take its driver airbag recall nationwide.

Chrysler Expands Air-Bag Recall to 3.3 Million Vehicles
need4speed commented:
December 21, 2014, 10:39 am

I was just curious about the e46 and the massive air bag recall. Has anyone actually gotten it done? A guy I know was told, no part, and he will be contacted when the are in. Sounds like that won't be for a very long time. Will they let you shut the airbags off? I'd rather not have air bags if there is a chance it shoots shrapnel into my face if it deploys. N4S
G. P. Burdell commented:
December 21, 2014, 11:22 am

Everything you need to know is in this stickied thread:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=784335

Dealers are not deactivating airbags. Rather, BMW NA is advising owners to avoid letting passengers ride in the front passenger seat.

Replacement parts are in very short supply due to extremely high demand coupled with insufficient production capacity. The best actions you can take are to contact your Service Advisor to get into your local dealer's queue, and keep in touch with him or her on a regular basis for updates.
John Davis commented:
December 21, 2014, 11:54 am

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Everything you need to know is in this stickied thread:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=784335

Dealers are not deactivating airbags. Rather, BMW NA is advising owners to avoid letting passengers ride in the front passenger seat.

Replacement parts are in very short supply due to extremely high demand coupled with insufficient production capacity. The best actions you can take are to contact your Service Advisor to get into your local dealer's queue, and keep in touch with him or her on a regular basis for updates.
The letter I got from BMW said the local dealer will contact me when they have the part. You're saying we shouldn't wait, but should contact them now anyway? Will they take a ten year-old E46 seriously when it comes to assigning places in the queue?
G. P. Burdell commented:
December 21, 2014, 12:08 pm

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The letter I got from BMW said the local dealer will contact me when they have the part. You're saying we shouldn't wait, but should contact them now anyway?
Although parts remain scarce, my local dealer has been receiving a trickle of new airbags and installing them for months. I haven't received a follow-up letter either, but I'm in the dealer's queue because I spoke to my Service Advisor. At my local dealer, it's first-come, first-served.

Dealer practices may vary, but if your SA doesn't know that you want an airbag, you'll be waiting for quite a while to get one.

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Will they take a ten year-old E46 seriously when it comes to assigning places in the queue?
BMW NA has promised the feds that it will replace passenger airbags in all affected E46 cars, regardless of their age.
ahull commented:
December 21, 2014, 1:48 pm

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Although parts remain scarce, my local dealer has been receiving a trickle of new airbags and installing them for months. I haven't received a follow-up letter either, but I'm in the dealer's queue because I spoke to my Service Advisor. At my local dealer, it's first-come, first-served.

Dealer practices may vary, but if your SA doesn't know that you want an airbag, you'll be waiting for quite a while to get one.


BMW NA has promised the feds that it will replace passenger airbags in all affected E46 cars, regardless of their age.
Yeah, it probably wouldn't hurt to call them every couple of weeks to get in the queue. I'm pretty sure my SA knows I need it but I'd be surprised if I get a call or follow up letter.
Fishful Thinking commented:
December 21, 2014, 5:29 pm

Got mine replaced, no problem. Just call the dealer and make an appointment.
enginerd commented:
December 21, 2014, 7:10 pm

same here - just made an appointment with the dealer and had it done (although this was back when the notifications first came out).
jimvideopro commented:
December 21, 2014, 8:03 pm

Called about a month ago and put myself on the list -- told I was number 6 in line. I stopped in Saturday during a test drive event, and I had moved up to first in line. Parts here shortly and I have an appointment for the 29th. So don't wait for a call, proactively get yourself on the list for a replacement. I was told it takes about an hour to do the replacement.
ALM168 commented:
December 22, 2014, 10:33 am

I had my air bag replaced last month. My suggestion is not to wait for the dealer to call you. Because of the magnitude of this recall, air bags are in short supply. I called the dealer and had them order an air bag for me, and it took about three weeks for it to come in.

BTW - Don't let the service rep 'sell' you any additional services while your car in for the recall.
Boraxo commented:
December 22, 2014, 6:16 pm

BMW just announced a more complete recall that covers all affected vehicles, not just those residing in high humidity states. Good to see the company finally get off the dime, though they should have been out front on this much earlier.
G. P. Burdell commented:
December 22, 2014, 8:30 pm

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BMW just announced a more complete recall that covers all affected vehicles, not just those residing in high humidity states. Good to see the company finally get off the dime, though they should have been out front on this much earlier.
Thanks for posting the news. According to the Associated Press report linked below, the "voluntary improvement campaign" is for 140,000 E46 vehicles produced between January 2004 and August 2006.

Could the recall be for the round or square airbags, or both? The round airbags are shared with E39 5-Series models with the three-spoke steering wheel, although I think the E39 went out of production several months before January 2004.

BMW expands US air bag recall nationwide
bluebee commented:
December 22, 2014, 10:28 pm

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Could the recall be for the round or square airbags, or both?
Apparently the Detroit News broke the story today, based on information from BMW spokesman Dave Buchko.

All of the deaths have been in Hondas, and none of the exploding airbags have occurred in BMWs.

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The German automaker said in a statement that it would replace driver-side airbags in approximately 140,000 BMW 3 Series vehicles in the United States, produced between January 2004 and August 2006.BMW had previously limited that recall to about 11,700 cars in Florida, Hawaii and Puerto Rico
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The company is calling its move a "voluntary improvement campaign" rather than a recall.
This article confirms the BMW spokesperson is Dave Buchko, according to Autonews. This article says that BMW was "the last of 5 automakers to agree" to the voluntary replacements (although, there are 10 automakers who use Takata airbags).
G. P. Burdell commented:
December 24, 2014, 3:02 pm

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All of the deaths have been in Hondas, and none of the exploding airbags have occurred in BMWs.
Honda has been performing its own testing of airbags, according to insiders.
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"We doubted if Takata was producing airbags to the specifications we had mutually agreed on," one of the [Honda] insiders said. "When we did not receive a clear analysis of what was happening, we decided to conduct our own tests ... and we found the quality of those inflators to be all over the map in term of key quality metrics."
Honda ran tests on fatal airbags, frustrated by Takata reticence, report says

Also, here's some perspective on the situation by an automotive industry expert and professor at Washington and Lee University.
Editorial: Takata and the Dilemma of High Quality
bluebee commented:
December 25, 2014, 4:16 am

Thanks for that insight, because, up until now, I had thought it was just a basic mistake.

But, the information you just presented implies it's worse than that.