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Matera007 02-08-2020 10:35 AM

This is the car that that made BMW famous.
 
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81'320i

Rush 1 02-08-2020 10:39 AM

The Godfather

Autoputzer 02-08-2020 11:26 AM

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History hasn't been kind to the E21. I haven't seen one in years. But, back around 2000 I saw one in pristine condition in, of all places, a community college student parking lot.

One piece of trivia is that the European-spec' 320i had an in-line six cylinder engine, where the U.S. spec' 320i had a four cylinder engine. In-line six cylinder engines are inherently smooth, and make a better sound (bark instead of a drone).

Although the E21 was the first "3 Series," the "two-door sports sedan" was defined by the E10, the car that saved BMW from being a division of Daimler-Benz.

This particular E10 was built by BMW Classic, the restoration division of BMW, around 2003 from a shell and new parts.

FredoinSF 02-08-2020 12:45 PM

Agree with Herr Putzer. 2002 is the one that really kicked things off with a famous article by David E. Davis Jr. (Link below) and that model is what got the group of people who founded the bmw cca together.


https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...w-2002-review/

I had a 69 which was converted to tii with 5 speed. Fun to drive and was phenomenal in its era, but very crude by today's standards. I miss my e30s more than the tii.


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John in VA 02-08-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Autoputzer (Post 13244799)
Although the E21 was the first "3 Series," the "two-door sports sedan" was defined by the E10, the car that saved BMW from being a division of Daimler-Benz.

Not to quibble over E10 vs. Typ 114 vs. 2002, but yes, it was the 1600/2002 that put BMW on the map. The E21 was such a dog in the handling department, even with the "S" package. The E30 was an enormous improvement.
Here's my '74 2002tii:

https://oimg.photobucket.com/albums/...arathon103.jpg

AndDown 02-08-2020 04:06 PM

Aaahhh, my 1st bimmer, a '77 320i that started me on this Bavarian road, although it was driving a 2002 tii that infected me.

DBU 02-08-2020 07:09 PM

The (front) windshield and the rear window were identical on the 2002, a.k.a. "neue klasse"

Matera007 02-08-2020 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Autoputzer (Post 13244799)
History hasn't been kind to the E21. I haven't seen one in years. But, back around 2000 I saw one in pristine condition in, of all places, a community college student parking lot.

One piece of trivia is that the European-spec' 320i had an in-line six cylinder engine, where the U.S. spec' 320i had a four cylinder engine. In-line six cylinder engines are inherently smooth, and make a better sound (bark instead of a drone).

Although the E21 was the first "3 Series," the "two-door sports sedan" was defined by the E10, the car that saved BMW from being a division of Daimler-Benz.

This particular E10 was built by BMW Classic, the restoration division of BMW, around 2003 from a shell and new parts.

This one is Euro spec. In Italy

Autoputzer 02-08-2020 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Matera007 (Post 13245133)
This one is Euro spec. In Italy

Yep... small bumpers, no right side mirror, and grill badge give it away as such.

I remember stopping by the local BMW dealership (which was on the corner of a big Pontiac-GMC dealership's lot, and had a one-car showroom) on Sundays and oogling over 320i's. Come to think of it, it took me 25 years of oogling before I ever bought a BMW. When I was 41 years old, I was back in my home town for a visit and stopped by that same dealership... more oogling. But, I found myself at just about the front of the E46 M3 waiting list, which ended up being two years long, and realizing I was in the right place at the right time.

JeffDunes 02-09-2020 09:20 AM

No, the Isetta started it all ;-)

francophile 02-10-2020 06:42 AM

Some of us still drive an old 320i. I have a 79 that I drive occasionally.https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...71&oe=5EC9F98A

JayMac 02-11-2020 04:21 PM

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In the driveway.

zod 02-11-2020 04:41 PM

There's a farm in northern MN with a 2002 that's been apart for about 30 years. It was going to be a project car. He tuned up his sister's 240Z is how I met him. I was up their three years ago and the engine was still in the milking barn. The rest is in the equipment barn.

nupespr84 02-11-2020 08:57 PM

Damn I am jealous. I have heard those were the "real deal" and you could work on them. :thumbup:

Matera007 02-12-2020 07:34 AM

Back then we changed our own oil.

Thorndike 02-12-2020 11:14 AM

Love my '78 320i
 
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AndDown 02-12-2020 07:02 PM

I need to look through my old slides to find a picture of my '77 320i

AndDown 02-12-2020 07:03 PM

I need to look through my old slides to find a picture of my '77 320i...wait, have to find my old slides first. Lol.

Jon Shafer 02-12-2020 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AndDown (Post 13249417)
I need to look through my old slides to find a picture of my '77 320i...wait, have to find my old slides first. Lol.


I drove my father's then brand-new 1978 E21 320i to my high school senior prom!

I was hooked after that!!

Our BMW 02-13-2020 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Matera007 (Post 13248593)
Back then we changed our own oil.

Back then, they had dip sticks.

Loren Olver 02-13-2020 10:08 AM

I Love E21's ! I am currently on my 3rd.
both the current car, as well as the previous one have the S package.
It is sad how under-rated the E21 is, but that's ok, because that makes them more affordable.
I waited 14+ years for the opportunity to buy my current 320is. I had been watching, & occasionally checking in with it's previous owner the whole 14 years. I Jumped on the opportunity ,as soon as it became available.

Loren Olver 02-13-2020 10:10 AM

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My '82 E21 330is

floydarogers 02-13-2020 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Our BMW (Post 13249655)
Back then, they had dip sticks.

They also had spin-on filters!

yellowbird172 02-13-2020 05:39 PM

I went from my "Italian love affair" FIAT 124 1600 sports coupe in 1981 to a brand new BMW E21 323i - a 6 cyl 2.3 litre motor. Did they sell this model in USA? Silky smooth power but handling left something to be desired with a tendency to lift a rear wheel in enthusiastic cornering. Since then, never been without a BMW in the family......currently a 2012 X5 M50d & frau Yellowbird's 2016 440i convertible.

John in VA 02-13-2020 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowbird172 (Post 13250371)
I went from my "Italian love affair" FIAT 124 1600 sports coupe in 1981 to a brand new BMW E21 323i - a 6 cyl 2.3 litre motor. Did they sell this model in USA? Silky smooth power but handling left something to be desired with a tendency to lift a rear wheel in enthusiastic cornering.

No, we got the 320i 4-cylinder - initially a 2.0 - then downsized to a 1.8 in the 80s. The handling was scary (to me, driving a 2002) even in the Sport version. The E30 was a great driving improvement, even in the 318i & 325e versions.


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