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Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:52 AM
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Posted By 181562
It is a factor. Having said that I have seen no...

It is a factor. Having said that I have seen no evidence to demonstrate Tesla is ahead in this technology.
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:51 AM
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Posted By 181562
Your argument is: There is demand for...

Your argument is:


There is demand for vehicles like the Model 3
Given there is demand BMW would be offering one
As BMW is not offering one BMW is incapable of producing one


Now let's...
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:47 AM
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Posted By 181562
Because I haven't seen any facts to support your...

Because I haven't seen any facts to support your position. Just conjecture.
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:47 AM
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Posted By 181562
At a significantly higher cost. The Model S is in...

At a significantly higher cost. The Model S is in a different class than the Model 3 or else Tesla wouldn't have released the Model 3.
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:45 AM
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Posted By 181562
Because its battery capacity is 2.6 less than the...

Because its battery capacity is 2.6 less than the Model 3. Increase the battery capacity to the same amount as the Model 3 and, unsurprisingly, the i3 would achieve the same range. Why does this need...
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:41 AM
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Posted By 181562
His point is demand is not the only factor in...

His point is demand is not the only factor in determining if an automotive company offers any particular type of vehicle for sale.
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:40 AM
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Posted By 181562
IOW your answer is "Wishful Thinking". Got...

IOW your answer is "Wishful Thinking". Got it.
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:37 AM
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Posted By 181562
So you're not comparing like to like but...

So you're not comparing like to like but proclaiming one is behind because the other doesn't face the same challenge? That's foolish.



If that's the direction BMW wants to go so be it. However...
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:24 AM
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Posted By 181562
Range. That's the context the question was asked.

Range. That's the context the question was asked.
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:23 AM
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Posted By 181562
You have yet to demonstrate it did. Which is why...

You have yet to demonstrate it did. Which is why I asked you to show me where Tesla's Model 3 equivalent was four years ago.


Well if, as you said, the technology existed and there is demand for...
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:21 AM
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Posted By 181562
And?

And?
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:14 AM
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Posted By 181562
Again you failed to answer the question: "So...

Again you failed to answer the question:

"So the larger battery capacity is not a factor?"

At least directly. Indirectly, by lack of answering, you've acknowledge it is a factor.



Again:...
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:11 AM
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Posted By 181562
It is when you're comparing it to a model which...

It is when you're comparing it to a model which doesn't have such a constraint.
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:10 AM
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Posted By 181562
Then your statement that my statement is wrong...

Then your statement that my statement is wrong was, well, wrong.



Then where was Tesla's Model 3 equivalent from four years ago?
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 10:08 AM
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Posted By 181562
I was unable to find it. Can you please quote it...

I was unable to find it. Can you please quote it and a reference to it?
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 09:05 AM
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Posted By 181562
Then why do they make larger capacity batteries...

Then why do they make larger capacity batteries then? Because they need to weigh the vehicle down more?


Drop the whole "same chassis" argument. It's a constraint you're placing on BMW which you...
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 09:02 AM
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Posted By 181562
I've asked two questions of you: "Is...

I've asked two questions of you:


"Is your conclusion BMW is behind based on any sort of data or just wishful thinking?"
You don't believe EV technology has improved since four years ago?
...
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 09:01 AM
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Posted By 181562
It may very well make sense but that's a...

It may very well make sense but that's a completely different argument than "BMW is behind in EV technology". If you're going to insist upon the same chassis then BMW has a constraint Tesla did not....
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 08:58 AM
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Posted By 181562
No, you did not.

No, you did not.
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 08:58 AM
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Posted By 181562
No, we don't. That is your (hence the words "YOUR...

No, we don't. That is your (hence the words "YOUR argument...") position not mine.
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 08:57 AM
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Posted By 181562
But the following are your words not mine: ...

But the following are your words not mine:

"You also made a statement below, which is 100% incorrect."
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 08:56 AM
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Posted By 181562
You failed to answer my question. That question...

You failed to answer my question. That question was:

"Is your conclusion BMW is behind based on any sort of data or just wishful thinking?"
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 08:54 AM
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Posted By 181562
You failed to answer my question. That question...

You failed to answer my question. That question was:

"So the larger battery capacity is not a factor?"
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 08:53 AM
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Posted By 181562
SIGH: "You also made a statement below,...

SIGH:

"You also made a statement below, which is 100% incorrect."

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10694209&postcount=402
Forum: General Automotive Forum 08-10-2017, 08:51 AM
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Posted By 181562
Irrelevant. Your argument BMW is behind in EV...

Irrelevant. Your argument BMW is behind in EV products is because they do not sell one that has the same mileage range as the Model 3. Period.
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