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Old 04-21-2019, 10:49 AM
Mark K Mark K is offline
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Originally Posted by lmacmil View Post
And if "conditions...are pretty iffy" why would I want to get to speed much faster?

Originally Posted by imtjm View Post
driving should be more safe, not fun to drive, when you are talking about driving in real life traffic not on the track or closed loops. Define fun to drive on RWD? Do you mean being able to brake contact patch? that's unsafe, regardless of how well you drive, when you have people around you and when conditions aren't controlled. Again, xdrive has its intended purpose, which is not just for snow.
I said it many times here that 6/10ths are my self-imposed limit on the public road and I will not go faster than that. I define 6/10ths as tires can be heard squealing but car is still on rails and there is no need to drive with your feet. Breaking traction on purpose means you will have to drive with your feet to control trajectory of the car - so, I agree with you. That said, though ...

1. You can certainly break traction in AWD vehicle as well. Your comment I quoted above could be misinterpreted as "you cannot break traction with AWD" - and that would be a dangerous assumption indeed.

2. RWD is definitely more fun and you do not need to break traction to feel it. But it does imply that you have limited slip differential on rear axle - just as I mentioned in my first reply here. When the diff locks, the inside wheel, that now turns much faster than it normally would, will let you feel the rotation from the rear without tires necessarily breaking traction.

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