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Old 03-14-2019, 05:45 PM
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Wow BMW.. no manual 2019+ z4s?

I was pulling the trigger on a 2019 z4 and found that there were no manual transmission versions for the United States.

The money was ready...

Had online built up a 2019 version of my faithful e85. Wtfluff? Do they want people to just go get other brands? I'm disappointed... and to be forced into an automatic at 56k+ no. .
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:02 PM
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Be sure to send a picture of your new Boxter to BMW NA. The problem is the Z4 has morphed into a comfortable two-seat convertible, instead of a true sports car. That meant that the typical Z4 customer didn't care about having a manual transmission.
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Old 03-16-2019, 10:40 PM
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First went the dipstick, now the stickshift. It was unthinkable when Ferrari did it, but then Ferrari gearboxes were never the easiest to master anyway. But BMW dropping the 3 pedal option in its sports car is a clear move away from FUN.
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Old 03-17-2019, 08:05 AM
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Not only is a manual tranny not available but it's made by Toyota in Japan along side the new Supra.
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Old 03-17-2019, 08:34 AM
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A different opinion....I am 75 and have been driving manual transmission cars for 59 years...over these years I have owned and raced probably 40 british, german and italian sports cars...all with manual tranny....They were great to drive and I enjoyed them....now the caveat...but their time has come and gone...the newer automatics are quicker and easier to drive...and lets face it I am old! I enjoy the ease of operation and simplicity of the new automatics with the accompanied increase in quickness and response..just an old guy perspective..and to reiterate, I get the mind set of having individual control of the gears...I still own and drive my t5 mgbgt v8 and a z3 manual....love driving these cars...just not as every day transportation..

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Old 03-17-2019, 04:30 PM
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I thought the new BMW Z4 was made in Austria . . . . .
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:22 PM
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Zeeboy I appreciate your perspective and agree with how good the autoboxes are now. Even F1 cars lost the 3rd pedal long ago. Progress is good, but the mastery of the heel and toe will eventually become a lost art.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:15 AM
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I thought the new BMW Z4 was made in Austria . . . . .
I stand corrected. It is manufactured in Austria along with the Supra.
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Old 03-23-2019, 08:26 PM
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Millennials can't drive manuals ! HAHA Perhaps they are targeting this demographic LOL

Truly, it is sad not to even have the option. I love how the M ONLY came with a manual.

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Old 03-28-2019, 07:38 PM
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I cant afford anything near a new one. But my cars generally have a clutch. A bmw in my mind is a great size car to shift yourself.
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Old 03-30-2019, 09:37 AM
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Millennials can't drive manuals ! HAHA Perhaps they are targeting this demographic LOL
The Z4 starts at $49K and I'd be shocked if you could find many under$60K. Not exactly millennial friendly pricing!

OTOH, retired old farts like me who can afford one probably don't want to shift.
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Old 04-08-2019, 05:10 PM
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I am 59 and 3 to 5 years from retiring. The only fun cars I would consider are smaller and faster and all have a clutch.

At this point I am considering
Bmw m3. , 330 , z4. Porsche cayman or 2000 or so 911 with water cooked flat 6. The M3 seems to be the highest priced / E46 would be my price area. The porsche 911 would be similar in price. The cayman would be about the same money, but newer. And the Z4 around 2005 seems to be a bargain. But I have to have the clutch.

My daughter has a 3 series bmw that is auto In case i have an injury that requires me to drive an auto for a while .
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Old 04-11-2019, 12:35 PM
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If you're considering an E46 M3 you should also consider a '06-'08 Z4M. Same engine as the E46 M3, but lighter and quicker. I really like mine. And every single one is a manual.

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At this point I am considering
Bmw m3. , 330 , z4. Porsche cayman or 2000 or so 911 with water cooked flat 6. The M3 seems to be the highest priced / E46 would be my price area. The porsche 911 would be similar in price. The cayman would be about the same money, but newer. And the Z4 around 2005 seems to be a bargain. But I have to have the clutch.
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Old 04-11-2019, 01:44 PM
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I can afford only older bmw and Porsche cars... if your buying a new car with a warranty I guess complex stuff is great if you enjoy it. I need to look at how hard it is to fix and the cost of the parts. Would you rather Install a new clutch and pressure plate in a manual M3. Or Z4... or boxster or cayanne .... OR, put in a new or refurbished auto dual clutch transmission with several computers ???? I know I would rather be saying, cross brace, drive shaft, U joint , transmission , pressure plate , clutch disc , flywheel, shaft bearing... than the other list....
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Old 04-13-2019, 06:21 AM
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Millennials can't drive manuals ! HAHA Perhaps they are targeting this demographic LOL

Truly, it is sad not to even have the option. I love how the M ONLY came with a manual.

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That third pedal is a good theift deterrent device these days ;-)

2006 3.0si MANUAL

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