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Old 06-02-2013, 01:42 PM
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6WB Retrofit - Coding Required

I finally got around to installing my 6WB MFID Instrument Cluster.

Since mine was a brand new virgin Kombi, no EEPROM work was necessary to blank the donor car's mileage and VIN. Install was a breeze, and Coding was just a matter of adding 6WB to the VO, changing VO Production date to 1211, and VO Coding DKombi and HU_CIC.

Since my car does not have ECO Pro, I get just the Comfort and Sport mode displays.

Upgrading from the basic Kombi to either 6WA or 6WB is a dramatic improvement, and worth every penny. If I already had 6WA though, I personally would stick with it rather than invest in 6WB.

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Looks AmAzing!!!!! Cost?


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Thanks. It's about $2k for a new one. I got mine from an overseas BMW Dealer, but you can get it from Bimmer-Tech:

http://www.bimmer-tech.net/shop/bmw-...panel-retrofit
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Hi Shawn, I order new 6wb claser and can I codin my self? With e-sys? Or have any instructions, best regards
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Hi Shawn, I order new 6wb claser and can I codin my self? With e-sys? Or have any instructions, best regards
Yes, you can code it with E-Sys. If it is new and not used, you can do just as I wrote in my original post, which is add 6WB to the VO, change VO Production date to 1211, and VO Code DKombi and HU_CIC.
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Yes its new, my car updated until 48.3 psdzdata, I have to update all ecu or . Must use e-Sys last version with 50.4 v
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Yes its new, my car updated until 48.3 psdzdata, I have to update all ecu or . Must use e-Sys last version with 50.4 v
48.3 was used though March 2013, so it should be fine.
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Hi shawn,
I also installed the 6WB MFID Instrument Cluster.
But after FA coding, there is no cafd in DKOMBI at the SVT area.
So, I can not code DKOMBI module...

All I have done is as follows.
1) Connect E-Sys and Read FA from car at the Coding Function in Expert mode.
2) Save FA and Edit FA
3) Add 6WB to SALAPA and calculate FP with no error.
4) Save FA
5) Select Expert mode, VCM function and select FA.xml file at the Vehcle Order.
6) Select the VCM Master tab and click the Write FA FP button.
7) Select Coding function and read FA and Activate FA and Read SVT.

My cluster get error it should be updated when ignition on.
The Tachometer and speedometer does not respond when engine on.

I am very glad if you give me some advice...
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Sorry, I forgot to attach the screen shot...

This is the E-Sys SVT screen with no cafd in DKOMBI module.
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I coded the FA according to the instruction from this post.

But I got an message like this which was not described at this instruction and I clicked yes.
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I wonder this is why my DKOMBI has no cafd...
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That message is normal. SInce you modified the FA, E-sys need to reload it.
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That message is normal. SInce you modified the FA, E-sys need to reload it.
Thank you for replying!
I understand the message is normal.
There may be other reason why the DKOMBI has no cafd after FA coding...
Please someone give me a help!!!
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:41 AM
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Hi shawn,
I also installed the 6WB MFID Instrument Cluster.
But after FA coding, there is no cafd in DKOMBI at the SVT area.
So, I can not code DKOMBI module...

All I have done is as follows.
1) Connect E-Sys and Read FA from car at the Coding Function in Expert mode.
2) Save FA and Edit FA
3) Add 6WB to SALAPA and calculate FP with no error.
4) Save FA
5) Select Expert mode, VCM function and select FA.xml file at the Vehcle Order.
6) Select the VCM Master tab and click the Write FA FP button.
7) Select Coding function and read FA and Activate FA and Read SVT.

My cluster get error it should be updated when ignition on.
The Tachometer and speedometer does not respond when engine on.

I am very glad if you give me some advice...
You need to try and inject CAFD into Kombi ECU:

Connect => Read FA (VO) => Activate FA (VO) => Read SVT (VCM) => Left-Click on DKombi => Click on "Detect CAF for SWE" => Select the CAFD from latest I-Level => Select OK => Right-Click on DKombi (the ECU itself not the underlying CAFD) => Select CODE.
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You need to try and inject CAFD into Kombi ECU:

Connect => Read FA (VO) => Activate FA (VO) => Read SVT (VCM) => Left-Click on DKombi => Click on "Detect CAF for SWE" => Select the CAFD from latest I-Level => Select OK => Right-Click on DKombi (the ECU itself not the underlying CAFD) => Select CODE.
Hi shawn!!
I completed installing my cluster with no errors!!
Thank you very very much for your help!!
6WB is exiting!!
I really appreciate your quick and kind advice
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And may I ask one more question just for my study...
After VO Code of DKOMBI, the SVT shows ECUs(28,1), the "1" font color is red.
And DKOMBI module font color is black while others are blue.
Please let me know this means something error?
Thank you very much in advance.
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Hi shawn!!
I completed installing my cluster with no errors!!
Thank you very very much for your help!!
6WB is exiting!!
I really appreciate your quick and kind advice
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And may I ask one more question just for my study...
After VO Code of DKOMBI, the SVT shows ECUs(28,1), the "1" font color is red.
And DKOMBI module font color is black while others are blue.
Please let me know this means something error?
Thank you very much in advance.
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Your 6WB looks good.

This is normal. The different colors depict the different states of your actual ECU firmware compared to the reference firmware (PSdZData version)

The SVTs recorded in red letters indicate the reference system state of an ECU. The blue ones indicate the actual state of the ECU. Black entries indicate SVTs with identical reference and actual state.

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Your 6WB looks good.

This is normal. The different colors depict the different states of your actual ECU firmware compared to the reference firmware (PSdZData version)

The SVTs recorded in red letters indicate the reference system state of an ECU. The blue ones indicate the actual state of the ECU. Black entries indicate SVTs with identical reference and actual state.

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Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate very much!
I felt faint with no cafd of my DKOMBI...
you saved my F10 from a scrape!
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Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate very much!
I felt faint with no cafd of my DKOMBI...
you saved my F10 from a scrape!
Ok. Glad it worked for you.
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Hi shawn,
I also installed the 6WB MFID Instrument Cluster.
But after FA coding, there is no cafd in DKOMBI at the SVT area.
So, I can not code DKOMBI module...

All I have done is as follows.
1) Connect E-Sys and Read FA from car at the Coding Function in Expert mode.
2) Save FA and Edit FA
3) Add 6WB to SALAPA and calculate FP with no error.
4) Save FA
5) Select Expert mode, VCM function and select FA.xml file at the Vehcle Order.
6) Select the VCM Master tab and click the Write FA FP button.
7) Select Coding function and read FA and Activate FA and Read SVT.

My cluster get error it should be updated when ignition on.
The Tachometer and speedometer does not respond when engine on.

I am very glad if you give me some advice...

hi. you add 6WB or first remove 6WA and after add 6WB?
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hi. you add 6WB or first remove 6WA and after add 6WB?
Hi,
I just added 6WB without removing any other option code because I did not have 6WA.
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Hi,
I just added 6WB without removing any other option code because I did not have 6WA.
Thanks for answer )) Iwill tray.. like you
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Hi,
I just added 6WB without removing any other option code because I did not have 6WA.
Hi Shawn and tom

What about my F07?
It has the 6WA Cluster but i don't see the SA 6WA in the FA?
So if I would retrofit the 6WB, would it be possible to just add it to the FA?
Or isn't it possible at all?

Doe's all things work? Like Entertainment Details, Phonebook and so on?
Are you able to switch the Channels? I read that this shouldn't be possible???

here my FA entries:
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<faList>
    <id name="">
        <comment/>
        <ns1:fa xmlns:ns1="http://bmw.com/2005/psdz.data.fa">
            <ns1:header createdBy="" date="2012-09-15+02:00" time="12:01:45" vinLong="##################"/>
            <ns1:standardFA colourCode="0300" faVersion="3" fabricCode="LCSW" series="F007" timeCriteria="0310" typeKey="SN81">
                <ns1:eCodes>
                    <ns1:eCode>A090</ns1:eCode>
                </ns1:eCodes>
                <ns1:saCodes>
                    <ns1:saCode>1CB</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>1CD</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>223</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>229</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>230</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>255</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>2BX</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>2PA</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>2VA</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>2VH</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>302</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>316</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>322</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>358</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>3AG</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>402</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>416</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>423</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>428</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>430</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>431</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>441</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>459</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>481</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>488</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>494</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>496</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>4CG</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>4NB</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>4UR</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>502</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>508</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>522</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>524</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>548</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>609</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>610</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>620</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>644</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>654</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>677</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>698</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>6AA</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>6AB</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>6FG</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>6FL</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>6FN</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>6NF</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>760</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>761</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>863</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>869</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>879</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>896</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>8KA</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>8TH</ns1:saCode>
                    <ns1:saCode>962</ns1:saCode>
                </ns1:saCodes>
                <ns1:hoCodes/>
            </ns1:standardFA>
        </ns1:fa>
    </id>
</faList>
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Hi Shawn and tom

What about my F07?
It has the 6WA Cluster but i don't see the SA 6WA in the FA?
So if I would retrofit the 6WB, would it be possible to just add it to the FA?
Or isn't it possible at all?

Doe's all things work? Like Entertainment Details, Phonebook and so on?
Are you able to switch the Channels? I read that this shouldn't be possible???

here my FA entries:
...
I think because for F01 / F07, 6WA is the standard Kombi, not Basic Kombi, so 6WA Option Code is not used.

To add MFID, you will need to add 6WB to your FA, and change the FA Build date to 0312 or 0712.

As far as I know, since 50.2, everything works except blinkers in HUD.
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This does look absolutely amazing. Have a 2014 LCI on the wa and the 6WA looks nice but damn the 6WB is amazing.

I would imagine swapping these would void the warranty? I would consider selling my 6WA and getting 6WB - assuming I could sell the 6WA and they could reset the data easily.

Edit: Thinking about it more and I have the HUD so I doubt I will be looking away from that much.

Here is a nice comparison of the three clusters.

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showpost...2&postcount=12

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This does look absolutely amazing. Have a 2014 LCI on the wa and the 6WA looks nice but damn the 6WB is amazing.

I would imagine swapping these would void the warranty? I would consider selling my 6WA and getting 6WB - assuming I could sell the 6WA and they could reset the data easily.

Edit: Thinking about it more and I have the HUD so I doubt I will be looking away from that much.

Here is a nice comparison of the three clusters.

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showpost...2&postcount=12
It will not void warranty. It is OEM part designed for your chassis.

And you will not want to sell your 6WA. If you retrofit 6WB, you will need to swap 6WA back in for any dealer service that involves ISTA/P programming.

I retrofitted mine, and its no big deal. I can swap clusters in under 5 minutes.
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