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Old 12-22-2013, 05:20 PM
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2.8i vs 35i Part Two

Hey Folks, unfortunately I can not get enough wheel time at my dealer and when it is there is traffic to deal with most of the time, so you all have very helpful!

Comparing with the basic suspension setups, in every day driving dose the 28i feel more agile or equal? Part of the problem is that during the test drive of the 35i I got distracted by the engine I forgot about the handling. I like agile, and have been spoiled for the past ten years by my Acura TSX which has it in spades. Additionally the 28i did not have servotronic steering the 35i of course has it as standard so there could be what you might call a "false tell" in low speed driving.

I seems as though besides myself only one other poster feels as though the constant shifts with the 8 speed trans in the 28i detracts from the driving experience. You know I think it's programed for best results in government fuel mileage tests not the best driving experience. Maybe it's one of those things one gets used to and do not notice it after a while ???

Sorry the obsessing about the purchase, it seems to be worse than usual this time. Maybe it is aged related now being a 63 year old geezer.

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Old 12-22-2013, 05:41 PM
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The 28i is a really nice choice. My brother has one, the handlings great and the gas consumption is not bad at all. If you don't need the speed that the 35i provides than the 28i should do. Its pretty fast, most people wouldn't think it is, considering its only a 4 cylinder. I think what the 35i provides is just a bigger engine in my opinion, good luck with your decision .


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I'm a 68 year old geezer & have the X1 35i M Sport with Ultimate package. It puts a smile on my face every time I get into it. So glad I did not go with the 28i. Its not just about speed, just power and smoothness. Handling is fantastic.
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I felt like the 28i was plenty if go and actually enjoyed the handling characteristics better. The added fuel economy is a plus to.

I've done some spirited mountain passes in my 28i and she handles like a champ.


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I felt like the 28i was plenty if go and actually enjoyed the handling characteristics better. The added fuel economy is a plus to.

I've done some spirited mountain passes in my 28i and she handles like a champ.


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I agree with you. I drove my brothers car a few times and surprised the crap out of me. A few weeks ago i was at bmw, servicing my car and was talking to my sales rep. I asked him if i could take the x1 35i for a spin, wanted to convince my bro to swap his 28i for it. But after i drove in it, it was quite similar in handling but just had a little bit more "umph" when putting down the pedal. To me theres not much difference but the engine and speed.


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If you like the 28i, get it. It's sure a lot less expensive.
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If you like the 28i, get it. It's sure a lot less expensive.
It really depends, at my bmw, they are only a 2-3 thousand different from one another. Its really a personal preference. If the OP is satisfied with the power of a 28i, better fuel economy, and if he would want to use that couple thousand on upgrades to a 28i. Than i would go with 28i. But if you want 50hp more with the inline6 than i would pick a 35i. Really depends what the OP wants to do...


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Old 08-22-2014, 01:58 PM
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I have a 2013 sdrive 2.8. I was attracted to it by the lower price and fuel economy. After a year I wanted more power. I did this in steps. First step was the JB4 by burger motor sports run on map 1. This is the best bang for the buck out there, about $500 - $600. After another year, I wanted even more power so I bought Evolution Racewerks front mounted intercooler and downpipe run on map 2. I think this was around $1,500 - $1,800. The car is now faster than the 3.5 but I still get to keep the great fuel economy, lower insurance and lower acquisition cost. I then added a ER charge pipe, electronic waste gate wires and methanol injection from BMS and run on map 3. The car is now really fast, but the fuel economy is down from 29 overall to 24mpg. I think the numbers you have to look at are rear wheel torque. The 3.5 is around 270 stock vs our 2.8's at around 220, I am rounding the numbers. I strongly recommend that you add the JB4 and drive the car for awhile ... my gas mileage went from 27.6 to 29 after I did this.

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I'm a 68 year old geezer & have the X1 35i M Sport with Ultimate package. It puts a smile on my face every time I get into it. So glad I did not go with the 28i. Its not just about speed, just power and smoothness. Handling is fantastic.
I'm an 18 yr old, trapped in a 67 yr old body. I have the same exact 35i as you, M Sport and Ulitimate with the 19 inch wheels/tires. Ditto on my input about the car!
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It really depends, at my bmw, they are only a 2-3 thousand different from one another. Its really a personal preference. If the OP is satisfied with the power of a 28i, better fuel economy, and if he would want to use that couple thousand on upgrades to a 28i. Than i would go with 28i. But if you want 50hp more with the inline6 than i would pick a 35i. Really depends what the OP wants to do...


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Let's face it....it always comes down to one thing. Money. If the 28i and 35i were the same price, got the same gas mileage and were the same to insure....everyone would get the 35i. I never heard anyone say..."Gee, I wish my car had less power."

Money is always the deciding factor. If money were no object for me, I wouldn't be driving an X1 at all. I'd buy a loaded Porsche Macan Turbo for $85K. Unfortunately, that's a little too rich for my blood. I just ordered my second X1.....a 2015 xdrive28i in Alpine white with Coral red leather, sport line, prem pkg, lighting pkg, and cold weather pkg.....$36,500. To me, that's a serious bargain in the BMW world. It's fun to drive, great on gas and only $760 a year to insure.

I'd love to have the 35i, but I have to draw the line somewhere.


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Old 08-23-2014, 06:25 PM
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Hello:

Most respectfully re: "Additionally the 28i did not have servotronic steering the 35i of course has it as standard"
After driving a 2014 X3 we just purchased a 2015 X1 xDrive 28i. It's build sheet has a line that says "S216A Servolenkung-Servotronic HYDRO STEERING-SERVOTRONIC".
I'm given to understand (possibly mistakenly) that the 28i is the last BMW to have the hydraulic Servotronic steering box

We did drive a 2014 X3 (not an X1 xDrive 35i) that had the electric power steering but we found it to be too comfortable with substantially less road feel and feedback compared to the 28i we test drove.
With the MSport & Ultimate options our new X1 xDrive 28i feels like a sports-car with just barely enough room for the 2 Newfoundlands. Speed & Power wise it feels like 3 distinctly different cars based on the transmission shift points & engine management settings (sports, standard and eco-pro).
Old geezers that we be it will probably live in eco-pro mode and we'll smile at the 30+ MPG it looks we'll be seeing regularly even in the mountains here.

Best of Luck w/decisions.
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I'm an 18 yr old, trapped in a 67 yr old body. I have the same exact 35i as you, M Sport and Ulitimate with the 19 inch wheels/tires. Ditto on my input about the car!
I have the same setup (3.5, M sport, Ultimate pge). Love it. Fast, comfortable, handles...
What more could you want?.
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Let's face it....it always comes down to one thing. Money. If the 28i and 35i were the same price, got the same gas mileage and were the same to insure....everyone would get the 35i. I never heard anyone say..."Gee, I wish my car had less power."

Money is always the deciding factor. If money were no object for me, I wouldn't be driving an X1 at all. I'd buy a loaded Porsche Macan Turbo for $85K. Unfortunately, that's a little too rich for my blood. I just ordered my second X1.....a 2015 xdrive28i in Alpine white with Coral red leather, sport line, prem pkg, lighting pkg, and cold weather pkg.....$36,500. To me, that's a serious bargain in the BMW world. It's fun to drive, great on gas and only $760 a year to insure.

I'd love to have the 35i, but I have to draw the line somewhere.


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That is like saying everyone would want a bigger car if money was no object. There are reasons to get less power besides money. Less chance of you going 140 mph and losing your license or using up more resources than you need.
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That is like saying everyone would want a bigger car if money was no object. There are reasons to get less power besides money. Less chance of you going 140 mph and losing your license or using up more resources than you need.

No, that's not what I said at all. If you're worried about using up more resources than you need, you should be driving a Prius.....or maybe a Nissan Leaf.


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Its too bad BMW didn't offer all the engine models for the X1 in North America.
I would love to test drive an X1 with a diesel.

I think both the N20 and N55 are great powertrains.
Both accelerate fast, and will put a smile on your face.
The advantage (IMO) of the N20 is a little better fuel economy while still
having a lot of torque and horse power, while the N55 has decent fuel economy
but really excels when you want to go from 100kph(60mph) to 160kph(100mph)

Depending on your route to work, or your driving style, at least buyers have a choice.
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No, that's not what I said at all. If you're worried about using up more resources than you need, you should be driving a Prius.....or maybe a Nissan Leaf.


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Its too bad BMW didn't offer all the engine models for the X1 in North America.
I would love to test drive an X1 with a diesel.

I think both the N20 and N55 are great powertrains.
Both accelerate fast, and will put a smile on your face.
The advantage (IMO) of the N20 is a little better fuel economy while still
having a lot of torque and horse power, while the N55 has decent fuel economy
but really excels when you want to go from 100kph(60mph) to 160kph(100mph)

Depending on your route to work, or your driving style, at least buyers have a choice.
Yeah if they had diesel on the X1 I would have definitely got that my wife has averaged over 40 mpg on her Jetta wagon diesel...just having to stop for gas less frequently is a big bonus. I am not cheap but spending more on gas than necessary is throwing money away.
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Its too bad BMW didn't offer all the engine models for the X1 in North America.
I would love to test drive an X1 with a diesel.

I think both the N20 and N55 are great powertrains.
Both accelerate fast, and will put a smile on your face.
The advantage (IMO) of the N20 is a little better fuel economy while still
having a lot of torque and horse power, while the N55 has decent fuel economy
but really excels when you want to go from 100kph(60mph) to 160kph(100mph)

Depending on your route to work, or your driving style, at least buyers have a choice.
Actually going from 60 to 100 in the 28 is pretty instant. I would say the biggest difference probably is the 1/2 second hesitation the X1 has from a start..once the turbo kicks in you have a ton of power.
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Let's face it....it always comes down to one thing. Money. If the 28i and 35i were the same price, got the same gas mileage and were the same to insure....everyone would get the 35i. I never heard anyone say..."Gee, I wish my car had less power."

Money is always the deciding factor. If money were no object for me, I wouldn't be driving an X1 at all. I'd buy a loaded Porsche Macan Turbo for $85K. Unfortunately, that's a little too rich for my blood. I just ordered my second X1.....a 2015 xdrive28i in Alpine white with Coral red leather, sport line, prem pkg, lighting pkg, and cold weather pkg.....$36,500. To me, that's a serious bargain in the BMW world. It's fun to drive, great on gas and only $760 a year to insure.

I'd love to have the 35i, but I have to draw the line somewhere.


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I just did a long road trip with my wife's X1 35i. It just so happens I recently returned my X5 and got a Porsche Macan for myself. I must say, X1 is much better road car than I had thought. 60 - 80 accleration is effortless for quick passing on the highway. What's even more impressive is that it doesn't even have to downshift to do this quickly. It's definitely a easy car to drive. Being a bit smaller, especially the width, it's a lot easier to maneuver around town then my Macan. Build quality is not the best but it's a very easy car to live with. I didn't bother with the four cylinder but I hear that's not so bad either. Can't go wrong with either choice.
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