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Old 01-10-2012, 07:32 AM
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Hey folks, I will be in the market soon for a new or used BMW. I have had a 335i and a 535i in the past. I presently have a 2012 Acura TL which is 6 months old. Unfortunately, I am a chronic car purchaser because that's what I like, especially BMWs. However, I am really liking my 2012 TL. For the price and performance (other than FWD and only 6 speed transmission) it is a phenomenal daily driver.

For the past couple of years I have been drooling over the F10 550i, but could not afford one brand new. They are now popping up used 2011s for low to mid 50s!! The downside is the gas mileage and questionable behavior of this model (steering).

During this time I have actually been waiting for the new 3 series to come out. This car has been getting rave reviews, especially the 328i. I am curious to see the performance and feel that this would make a great daily driver for me. However, the 328i will approach high 40s even low 50s well optioned.

Lastly, the 135i has peaked my curiosity, especially the N55 rendition. I can purchase a used well optioned 2011 for around 35,000.

If I keep my Acura TL, then I could also purchase 135i. In order to purchase the 328i or 550i, I would probably have to trade my TL in or sell it. I plan on making a decision by end of the summer 2012 for my 40th birthday.

Please help, would you keep the TL and get a 135i? Would you give up the TL and get a F10 550i although the gas mileage is dismal and the 2011s have a few issues here and there? Or would you just get the brand new 328i loaded?

I am very impatient and hope that I can hold out until summer. I actually wish that I never discovered BMWs, because I probably wouldn't be trying to always get better performance than my last vehicle Thanks!
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:07 AM
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Man thats a lot decision making to do - lol

1)Break it down like this- the 1 vs the 3- are you talking coupe or 4 door- whats needed?
if its a coupe, then why not opt for the 1 with the M?
2)if the gas is REALLY a major concern, one that will haunt you for years to come, then take the 5 and M out of the picture. However, 15-19 city 22-26 hwy isnt that bad, is it?
3)getting newer vehicles is something you are into (nothing wrong with it) why not lease for 2 yrs ( i know it would be a fortune, however, you dont have to deal with selling etc) this way, by the time you are 45 you could have (if money isnt an issue) had all 3.

I am in the some what of the same situation however, in 2 years, I am going for the M5. used with 10-20k miles on it. Thought about doing the 550 or the 535 with M performance, however in the end, it simply is just not what I want. So my decision is the M5 hands down. yes it will cost and yes the maintance etc, however the moment I drive off the lot, I will know that I didnt settle and I got exactly what I wanted. Everytime i turn the key and hear that little engine purr, well I can already see the smile on my face as I drive off doing 80 in a 35 mph zone. i will be almost 42 by then

I cant tell you which way to go but I can tell you this my friend- we only live once, make it count

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Old 01-10-2012, 09:24 AM
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I wouldn't buy anything that gets dismal gas mileage. These days there is no excuse for a car that gets less than 20mpg. There are plenty of good, fast cars that don't use a lot of fuel.


So 135i, new 328i or wait to see if BMW NA imports the F20 1 series. I posted a review of the new 1 series over in the 1 forum (yes I've driven one)

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Old 01-10-2012, 10:29 AM
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I wouldn't buy anything that gets dismal gas mileage. These days there is no excuse for a car that gets less than 20mpg. There are plenty of good, fast cars that don't use a lot of fuel.


So 135i, new 328i or wait to see if BMW NA imports the F20 1 series. I posted a review of the new 1 series over in the 1 forum (yes I've driven one)
Define good and fast

I agree but the new M5 will get better mpg than previous years- with my 525 i get 420 per fill up. Better than the Jetta that I had.

However, there just comes a time when you add up everything (with a M for example) losing 20-25 miles per fill up is really not the end of the world for me
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:44 AM
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Define good and fast
Here are a few.

2010 Lotus Elise (last year with EPA numbers) is 21/27. 0-60 on the US spec car is 4.9 seconds.

2012 BMW F30 328i -- 0-62 in 5.9 seconds. EPA numbers aren't out yet. Based on the UK figures, I'd estimate it will come in around 25/33.


2012 MINI Cooper S is 27/35 (EPA) and does 0-60 in 6.6 seconds.

2012 BMW 118i Fuel consumption is closer to a Cooper than a Cooper S. Nevertheless a 118i manages 0-62 in 7.4. The F20 120d is faster (7.2 seconds) and uses less fuel than a 116i.
2012 BMW 320d.
Sadly these aren't sold in the US, at least not yet.

VW Golf and Sirocco with the 160PS 1.4TSI or the 170PS 2.0TDI. The 1.4TSI isn't sold in the US. Neither is the Sirocco. 0-60 is 8 seconds with either motor.

Alfa Romeo Giuletta with the 1.4TB Multi Air. Not sold in the US yet. 170HP from a 1.4L motor! With the Multi Air, this 4 door sedan will go 0-60 in 7.4 seconds. Fuel consumption comparable to the slower MINI Cooper. On paper it is faster and uses less fuel than the VW. Good is always debatable when it comes to Alfa Romeo, but the Giuletta is the best car they've made in ages and the motor is amazing.

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Old 01-10-2012, 12:02 PM
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good list (sorry for hijacking the thread here) but most of those dont count. cant drive it here, than its rubbish. moving on

Lotus seriously! great that you will get decent mpg however, you wont be sitting in it long enough to full enjoy it, unless youre under 4'9- 5'0 would be max. No cargo space at all and city driving would be a nightmare. Good for going over night to a place that is 10 miles away; for just one night. Otherwise you would have to ship your luggage to the dest.

the 3 series Diesel have come along way and and so have the new 3's. I would agree that would be the best bang for the buck.

The MC (unless you opt for the the long base 4 door) would be to small for a family IMO however still a great car.

The 1 series for me, IMHO, is a nice car, however, 3's are used as an entry to the BMW family, just like the C class for Merc. If you start at a 1 you better do it when your 16 lol.

the Sirocco- is a nice car, wish they did sell that in the US however, the dominating market for that model is and will be the UK. I guess the Ford Focus could be used as an exchange, if you like Ford.

In the end, good list and discussion here
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I am really liking my 2012 TL. For the price and performance (other than FWD and only 6 speed transmission) it is a phenomenal daily driver.
Then how about keeping it and consider a new BMW 128i convertable as your second car.

European invoice is 93% of Euopean delivery price = base invoice price of $31,960
Add $500 to $750 for dealer profit. Plus $895 destination and handling.

Any options you add would be 93% of US price.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...erYourBMW.aspx

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Lotus seriously!
Fast good and decent mpg yes. Reasonable DD probably not.
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The 1 series for me, IMHO, is a nice car, however, 3's are used as an entry to the BMW family, just like the C class for Merc. If you start at a 1 you better do it when your 16 lol.
The F30 is bigger than the e90. There is room for an F20 sized BMW in America. Just not the 116i or 118d.

Mercedes entry level car here is the A160. We test drove one last week. Not fast or good. While the fuel consumption on an A160 is about the same as an F20 116i, the Mercedes is slow both in a line (12.5 seconds to 60) and on curves.

MB does have some cars in that could be on the list though --- C220D Sport comes to mind.

As for the rest of the list some will probably make their way to the US. Others not. BMW NA should import the 320d. VW says the Sirocco is too expensive to compete in America. People in Los Angles would buy the Guiletta if the price was right.

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