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Old 07-04-2017, 11:47 PM
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Important 335is oil thread diy

Hey guys, Iv been looking into doing my first diy oil change.. But having a hard time in choosing the right engine oil.

Iv been changing my 2011 335is n55 oil at a Bmw dealership since I bought the car at 60,000km and now 2 and a half years later the car has 120,000km. The bill of sale says they've been running sae 5w so I'm kind of curious as to if they've been putting their Bmw sae 5w30 Or something else they might have in the garage. Mind you i live in toronto Canada and the weather gets really cold below -30c -22f in the winter and at times it can get super hot above 35c -95f. In the summer.

I could easily go buy Bmw oil but I don't want to run Bmw oil anymore.. I'm looking into purchasing an oil which meets bmws LL-01 spec because I want to change my oil every 12,500km but Bmw says its oil can last up to 25,000km intervals but I think this is rediculous and don't want to be topping up my oil with 1qt when it's starting to burn oil.

Now looking into my cars manual 2011 335is n54 engine they recommend to use castrol and an oil which meets LL-01 and the viscosities of sae5w30. Sae5w40. Sae0w30. Sae0w40. plus API rating of SN and never to add more than 1qt of oil below SM rating, another thing to note is that nothing is mentioned about the ACEA ratings.

Note that castrol is no longer the company making oil for BMW since 2015 and Bmw switched over to SHELL which recommends penzoil sae5w30 on their website. For the 335

anyways I'm debating between these oils
1. Royal purple sae5w30 but it doesn't meet LL-01 spec for Bmw so id have to change my oil much sooner than 12,500km

2. Castrol edge European formula sae 0w-30 which does meet the LL-01 spec Plus ACEA A3/B4. But falls short on the API rating of CF/SL

3.castrol edge sae 5w-30 doesn't meet LL-01 nor does it meet ACEA spec.. But meets API SN spec

4. castrol edge sae European formula 0w-40 which meets LL-01 plus ACEA A3/B4. Also API SN fits criteria

5.Mobil 1 European formula 0w-40 no
Longer meets LL-01 spec plus the formula has changed so this formula is not recommended for Bmw anymore.

6.Pennzoil platinum euro sae 5w-30. Meets LL-01 meets ACEA A3/B3-10. Meets API SN
Fits criteria

whats everyone's opinion on the viscosity I should run with the weather here in Toronto Canada and which oils you guys might be using or recommend. Thanks guys
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Old 07-05-2017, 12:15 AM
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Your oil condition sensor expects BMW LL-01. Use that.

Your owner's manual spec's wt of oil for diff temps. Take it's advice.
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Old 07-05-2017, 05:05 AM
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Hey guys, Iv been looking into doing my first diy oil change.. But having a hard time in choosing the right engine oil.

Iv been changing my 2011 335is n55 oil at a Bmw dealership since I bought the car at 60,000km and now 2 and a half years later the car has 120,000km. The bill of sale says they've been running sae 5w so I'm kind of curious as to if they've been putting their Bmw sae 5w30 Or something else they might have in the garage. Mind you i live in toronto Canada and the weather gets really cold below -30c -22f in the winter and at times it can get super hot above 35c -95f. In the summer.

I could easily go buy Bmw oil but I don't want to run Bmw oil anymore.. I'm looking into purchasing an oil which meets bmws LL-01 spec because I want to change my oil every 12,500km but Bmw says its oil can last up to 25,000km intervals but I think this is rediculous and don't want to be topping up my oil with 1qt when it's starting to burn oil.

Now looking into my cars manual 2011 335is n54 engine they recommend to use castrol and an oil which meets LL-01 and the viscosities of sae5w30. Sae5w40. Sae0w30. Sae0w40. plus API rating of SN and never to add more than 1qt of oil below SM rating, another thing to note is that nothing is mentioned about the ACEA ratings.

Note that castrol is no longer the company making oil for BMW since 2015 and Bmw switched over to SHELL which recommends penzoil sae5w30 on their website. For the 335

anyways I'm debating between these oils
1. Royal purple sae5w30 but it doesn't meet LL-01 spec for Bmw so id have to change my oil much sooner than 12,500km

2. Castrol edge European formula sae 0w-30 which does meet the LL-01 spec Plus ACEA A3/B4. But falls short on the API rating of CF/SL

3.castrol edge sae 5w-30 doesn't meet LL-01 nor does it meet ACEA spec.. But meets API SN spec

4. castrol edge sae European formula 0w-40 which meets LL-01 plus ACEA A3/B4. Also API SN fits criteria

5.Mobil 1 European formula 0w-40 no
Longer meets LL-01 spec plus the formula has changed so this formula is not recommended for Bmw anymore.

6.Pennzoil platinum euro sae 5w-30. Meets LL-01 meets ACEA A3/B3-10. Meets API SN
Fits criteria

whats everyone's opinion on the viscosity I should run with the weather here in Toronto Canada and which oils you guys might be using or recommend. Thanks guys
Of all those oils, the only one I would even THINK of putting into my engine is The pennzoil. If you want the best for your car, use liqui moly, motul or shell rotella 5w40.

I run 5w40 year round and I also live in Toronto. Great engine protection and it's not hard on the engine at all in the winter if you park indoors.

If you do short distance driving or park the car outside in the winter months, I would consider using 0w40 ONLY for those months. Otherwise you're best off with 5w40.
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Old 07-05-2017, 05:35 AM
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BTW, if you really have a 335is you have a N54 motor.

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Old 07-05-2017, 05:42 PM
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Of all those oils, the only one I would even THINK of putting into my engine is The pennzoil. If you want the best for your car, use liqui moly, motul or shell rotella 5w40.

I run 5w40 year round and I also live in Toronto. Great engine protection and it's not hard on the engine at all in the winter if you park indoors.

If you do short distance driving or park the car outside in the winter months, I would consider using 0w40 ONLY for those months. Otherwise you're best off with 5w40.

I'm leaning towards penzzoil 5w-30 but I'm scared because in the winter the car is parked outdoors. Is there a downfall to running a 0w-40 year round
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Old 07-05-2017, 05:43 PM
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Typo lol yes n54!!!!
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Old 07-05-2017, 05:46 PM
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Your oil condition sensor expects BMW LL-01. Use that.

Your owner's manual spec's wt of oil for diff temps. Take it's advice.
What if you've only put about 5000k on a Bmw LL-01 and it's a 5w-30 for example and it's about to hit winter should you switch over early to a 0w?

I don't see any advice in my manual in regards to which oil to use at different temperatures.
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Old 07-08-2017, 08:27 AM
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What if you've only put about 5000k on a Bmw LL-01 and it's a 5w-30 for example and it's about to hit winter should you switch over early to a 0w?

I don't see any advice in my manual in regards to which oil to use at different temperatures.
If you park outdoors, use 0w40 but only for the winter months.
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