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Old 07-08-2017, 03:26 PM
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Adventures with non run flats and no spare...

Earlier this week I had my third event in 11.5 years and probably 350k miles of a tire issue with no spare. This is not a thread to complain about BMW not offering a spare, it's more of FIY of what can happen and how to deal with it.

First car I ever had that did not come with a spare was a 06 MINI Cooper S. We bought that car new in Feb 2006 (ordered in Aug 2005 back when MINI's were still in high demand and one had to get in line to have one made to order). I had the first tire issue with that car within the first year. Coming back from a run along the estuary in Alameda CA, I hit a pot hole that was adjacent to a train track. The tire popped as it came in contact with the track, the wheel was bent, no spare, tire was non runflat. I was in a not so great part of town and had my dog with me in the car (Bentley, aka Mr. B. (RIP), a rescued Weimaraner who was not super friendly.) Partner was out of town so he couldn't come get the dog. I called BMW / MINI roadside service and a tow truck showed up within 20 minutes. Car was towed to my house with dog inside the car as I was trying avoid tow truck driver and dog interaction. Once I got home I swapped the summer O.Z. wheels and tires for winters, problem solved, back on the road in about 45 minutes. Luckily I had bought 5 wheels so a new tire was ordered and the 5th wheel went into service. Shortly after I ordered a new spare O.Z. wheel and put it on standby in case same happened again, which it did not. Picture of wheel and tire, the damage is at about 8 o'clock position on the wheel:

Remedy in this case was tow truck and a spare set of wheels sitting in the garage to get going temporarily while new wheel and tire were being delivered.

Second time was about two years later, with the 2006 330i, driving from Oakland to Reno. The car was still equipped with the original runflat bridgestones. About halfway through the 215 mile drive as we're starting to seriously climb into the Sierra Nevada mountains, low tire pressure warning comes on. I stop and sure enough, I have a leak in the right rear tire. It was about 10PM, no tire shops open, but I had a small compressor, so I refilled the tire, drove on and a few miles later the warning comes on again. Pulled over and refilled the tire. Wash rinse repeat probably 8 times over the remaining 100 miles. One would say that the runflat would have allowed to go on for the last 50 miles, but I wanted to drive a little faster than 50MPH, and we had closer to 100 miles to go. It was a loooonnnng drive, the tire was done by the time we got to Reno, luckily the tires were close to replacement time so all four were replaced.

Remedy in this case was combo of runflat tech and small inflator that is part of flat tire kit.

Third time was this week with the X5. I headed from Healdsburg CA to Reno NV. Given that I left at the height of rush hour, I took the scenic backroad that bypasses the high traffic areas (128 from Healdsburg to Davis). About 50 miles into the trip, low pressure warning comes on. I pull over and can hear the pshhhhhh noise from the right rear tire. It's a non runflat with less than 2k miles on it, I am near beautiful Lake Barryessa which is roughly the middle of nowhere, no cell coverage (can't call for a tow) and no tire shops for 30 miles at least. Given the amount of air coming from the puncture I was not sure the sealant and inflator kit would do the trick, but that's all I had on hand so I tried it. After pumping the sealant in and pumping air into the tire I could still hear the "pshhhhh" noise of air escaping. I drove for a mile to distribute the sealant per instructions, pull over and "pshhhhhh". OK, if one mile is not enough let's go for another two! Pulled over, same thing, pumped more air into the tire, repeated a couple of times. Eventually the sealant started doing its job and I could go further without stopping. Given the situation I retreated back to Healdsburg via Napa, the final deciding factor being that 128 ended up being closed a few miles from where I first pulled over (not sure if it was due to fire, bad accident, or road repair but Waze knew nothing about it and I took it as a sign that Reno was not happening that night.) It took me almost two hours and multiple stops but I made it back, took the car to the tire shop the next day for a sealant cleanup and a patch. $45 but the newish tire was saved.



Remedy for non runflat was sealant and inflator kit, stop a few times to refill air, but no tow required and made it back to one of the houses, tire was saved.

So, why all this? No question that having a spare would have made everyone of these situations less harrowing, well except maybe the one with the MINI where I was in a really bad part of town and felt safer in the car with my take charge K9. In the other cases, the small compressor for tire kits saved the day. Here is what I carry in all the cars that don't have spares:
- Flat tire kit with sealant and compressor.
- Warning triangle to use if too close to traffic for comfort.
- Tow coverage for 200 miles (the healdsburg to Reno drive is 240, seems sufficient, never had to use it anyway)
What I am going to add given what just happened this week is a plug kit (something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Victor-22-5-0...=tire+plug+kit). If I had had this on hand this week there would have been no need for sealant and likely only one stop required. It can be a pain but having the tools that allow continuation of a trip rather than rely on a tow is important IMO.

Hope someone finds this useful. Cheers!
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Old 07-08-2017, 03:57 PM
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Old 07-08-2017, 06:39 PM
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...Here is what I carry in all the cars that don't have spares:
- Flat tire kit with sealant and compressor.
- Warning triangle to use if too close to traffic for comfort.
- Tow coverage for 200 miles (the healdsburg to Reno drive is 240, seems sufficient, never had to use it anyway)
What I am going to add given what just happened this week is a plug kit (something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Victor-22-5-0...=tire+plug+kit)...
That type of repair kit works well on small punctures.
I have had good results (particularly when the hole is larger) with the Tire Plugger. -- While a temporary repair, I have driven hundreds of miles with one of those plugs.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:41 PM
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RFT's allow one choice of in which bad neighborhood one waits for the flatbed.
Scenario 1: runflat would have gotten me home (6 miles or so).

Scenario 2: Car had runflats. Without the compressor I would have been screwed as I had >100 miles to go. The tire had pretty much disintegrated even with the air refills, it fell apart when I drove to the tire shop 5 miles from the house when the four new tires came in from Tire Rack. Two people and a dog would have been stuck on the side of the road waiting for a tow close to midnight. Pretty in that area, not a bad neighborhood, but still wouldn't have made it.

The point is, whether on runfalts or non runflats, if no spare and driving out of home area, have a plan b and a plan c.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:42 PM
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That type of repair kit works well on small punctures.
I have had good results (particularly when the hole is larger) with the Tire Plugger. -- While a temporary repair, I have driven hundreds of miles with one of those plugs.
Thanks for the tip!
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1988 635csi - 5 speed
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Old 07-10-2017, 01:03 AM
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While you may not be able to buy a spare tire and wheel from BMW as an aftermarket item for your X5, the spare tire and jack kit is available from some aftermarket sources.
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Old 07-10-2017, 08:31 AM
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While you may not be able to buy a spare tire and wheel from BMW as an aftermarket item for your X5, the spare tire and jack kit is available from some aftermarket sources.
Great point, particularly if no third row. With third row the place where the wheel would be stored is occupied by the seats.
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Old 07-10-2017, 09:19 AM
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Makes me feel better about having ordered my X5 with a spare for $150. Hadn't checked it for at least 3-4 years, just inflated it from 30 to 60. Now if I can only get my "new' driveshaft.
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