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The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

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Old 07-01-2019, 09:39 PM
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2012 F10 550i Reliability/What to Expect?

Hey Guys,

Long-time reader, first-time poster. I am looking at a 2012 BMW 550i with the M Sport Package equipped.. with 82k.

Any advice to give before meeting up with the gentleman selling the vehicle?

The advertisement says all service was completed at the dealership, but I really just want to know what to ask when meeting up for the first time.

On a side note, I am coming from an E46 (2005) 325i, so how do you think I should approach this large leap from base 3-series to a, well, 'more luxurious' 5-series?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Old 07-01-2019, 09:50 PM
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At the top of this sub forum is a couple of "stickies" regarding that engine.
Might also browse the last few pages of this sub forum also.
That engine seems to be the most likely problem.
Sounds like you've been around BMW so look deeper into that first.
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Old 07-02-2019, 03:37 AM
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Always welcome a prospective 5 owner - but were you specifically looking for a 550 or just came across it?

I say that because while the N63 is known to have issues, when itís fine - 600Nm torques is something to relish everyday.

Mine has been fine for 6 years of daily beating - but feel free to read the stickies as mentioned above - and itíll be good to know why party is selling.

On the E46 - itís one of the last great BMW machines and the F10 (any) will feel like a boat in comparison so try to get wheel time to see if you like it. If it has IAS youíll like it even more.



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Old 07-02-2019, 08:15 AM
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To be honest.... find a 2014+ if you can. The revisions to the V8 engine are worth it for both the reliability, and also the extra 50hp and accompanying increase in torque.
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Old 07-02-2019, 05:23 PM
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Mine (MY11.5) was recently stolen at 46k miles, but to that point had the following issues off the top of my head:
# Full set of injectors
# Ignition coils
# Water leak at firewall
# Water leak left rear door
# Multiple diff bushes
# Valve stem seals
# Rear control arms
# MAF sensors
# Vacuum pump seal
# Oil level sensor seal

Mods:
# AR Design down pipes
# ESS E-Tronic
# M5 rear mufflers + diffuser
# Various comfort/convenience coding

It is a truly fantastic car. It definitely has a bent towards comfort, but they are very quick, especially when tuned. Very livable, high-performance machine.

As per above, get an LCI if you can as many of the above issues have been resolved and you can actually tune the ECU as compared to pre-LCI, non-TU N63 variants where the only option is a piggy-back solution.

Note that US owner had the benefit of the N63 campaign to rectify a number of the inherent issues; ensure that campaign has been carried out before purchase.

Fair warning: if you test drive one, its going to be hard to walk away.

Happy to help with any specific questions you may have about the car.
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Old 07-03-2019, 09:05 AM
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To follow up against the above.

I bought my car (2014 LCI with updated N63TU engine) last year, previously to that it was a one owner car - and I have the full service history.

From delivery in 2014 to me buying it in 2018 it had only scheduled service performed.

When I was buying it, I had a full inspection done at BMW and they found the following in need of addressing: Very minor oil leak from the sump, Very minor oil leak from the rear of the engine, nose camera inoperable, iDrive control "sticking".

The warrantee I purchased with the vehicle paid in full for dealer repairs of the two oil leaks and the iDrive controller. It did not cover the camera as the issue was corrosion in the wiring. BMW good-faithed 95% of the repair costs on that.

Since then (10,000 miles later) it has not used or lost any measurable amount of oil, has only require normal maintenance (brakes) and the only failure was a coil. At which point I had them all replaced with new plugs at my request.
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Old 07-03-2019, 01:41 PM
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I second the recommendation to look for a 2014+ 550 with the N63TU engine. Mine has 75k miles now, 25k of which I have put on over the past 2 years. Just scheduled maintenance thus far, no repairs. The car has been great to drive, I love it, plan to keep it until I get bored and want something different, but no sign of that happening anytime soon.
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Old 07-03-2019, 05:08 PM
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Advice: run, do not walk, away from this 2012 550i
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Old 07-03-2019, 07:39 PM
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Mine (MY11.5) was recently stolen at 46k miles, but to that point had the following issues off the top of my head:
# Full set of injectors
# Ignition coils
# Water leak at firewall
# Water leak left rear door
# Multiple diff bushes
# Valve stem seals
# Rear control arms
# MAF sensors
# Vacuum pump seal
# Oil level sensor seal

Mods:
# AR Design down pipes
# ESS E-Tronic
# M5 rear mufflers + diffuser
# Various comfort/convenience coding

It is a truly fantastic car. It definitely has a bent towards comfort, but they are very quick, especially when tuned. Very livable, high-performance machine.

As per above, get an LCI if you can as many of the above issues have been resolved and you can actually tune the ECU as compared to pre-LCI, non-TU N63 variants where the only option is a piggy-back solution.

Note that US owner had the benefit of the N63 campaign to rectify a number of the inherent issues; ensure that campaign has been carried out before purchase.

Fair warning: if you test drive one, its going to be hard to walk away.

Happy to help with any specific questions you may have about the car.
I feel bad for the schmuck that stole it ... he is in for a world of headaches with that 2012!!!
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Old 07-04-2019, 12:24 PM
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Hey Guys,

Long-time reader, first-time poster. I am looking at a 2012 BMW 550i with the M Sport Package equipped.. with 82k.

Any advice to give before meeting up with the gentleman selling the vehicle?

The advertisement says all service was completed at the dealership, but I really just want to know what to ask when meeting up for the first time.

On a side note, I am coming from an E46 (2005) 325i, so how do you think I should approach this large leap from base 3-series to a, well, 'more luxurious' 5-series?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Jake
If you're a long time reader...then you know about the engine recall on the first iteration of the N63 engine, right?

Not that you may have run across one that won't have any issues...but I would ask questions to see if the engine has been replaced (under warranty) or had any issues that would indicate that it is being dumped by the owner. Any service records of oil consumption?

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Hey Guys,

Long-time reader, first-time poster. I am looking at a 2012 BMW 550i with the M Sport Package equipped.. with 82k.

Any advice to give before meeting up with the gentleman selling the vehicle?

The advertisement says all service was completed at the dealership, but I really just want to know what to ask when meeting up for the first time.

On a side note, I am coming from an E46 (2005) 325i, so how do you think I should approach this large leap from base 3-series to a, well, 'more luxurious' 5-series?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Jake
Not that it's super meaningful, but I'd recommend getting a printout of the service history for the car. When I was looking at buying a 5 series BMW, I found a 2011 550i that was a remarkable price and was seriously looking at it. Bear in mind that this was a while ago and BMW was just starting to admit that there was a huge problem with their N63 cars.

When I reviewed the CarFax on the car, it was apparent that the car was cheap because it was a lemon. It had gone through a ridiculous number of repairs and some of them were repeat work. It was cheap because it was junk and probably should have been bought back by BMW. Unfortunately, it's a common refrain for the N63 cars. I'd get a thorough inspection of the car, review everything and think about buying a different car no matter what. Best of luck if you buy it....it'll be great while it runs.
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Old 07-05-2019, 02:41 AM
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FWIW- A friend of mine is a BMW mechanic and he scared me enough to NOT buy ANY 5 series 8cyl if it didn't have full drivetrain warranty. Even the M5's have their issues. Not saying a 535 will be problem free, but they are more reliable IMO. I ended up picking up a '16 535 and have been happy with it. A tune (I went with BM3) and a catless downpipe really wakes the 535 up. Cornering wise, the 5 is going to feel like a boat coming from an E46, but they ride nice. Lowering it a bit and bigger sway's help.
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Old 07-07-2019, 03:27 AM
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DO NOT GET THE 2012 550 !!! I just got rid of my 14 550i as it cost me a small fortune. You will have endless repairs. It will be in the shop more than on the road. I won't go in detail but lets just say everyone has the same exact problems. New engine, HPFP, LPFP, Fuel injectors, burns oil every 500 miles where you have to top it off with 2 quarts, timing issues which sent me to the M235i I just bought and traded in the 550i.
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