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Old 03-14-2016, 06:51 PM
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With a $75k+ rock solid pension from the federal government, he'll be fine. His house will be paid off before he retires. Being on CSRS, with only about four years of SS time (his active duty time), he's not going to get Social Security. It's not just the cars. He always has a high-end motorcycle, but he has to buy those. He's been riding BMW's for as long as I've known him, but he traded his last one in for a Harley-Davidson, sort of the opposite end of the motorcycle universe. Last year, he was riding and got whacked by a spring breaker. He wasn't hurt too bad, though. But, his new Harley got banged up pretty good.

He doesn't have the attention span to read the fine print. "Sign and drive" is his motto.

I dig your rap on buying slightly used. But, for me keeping the paint on a car looking good has gone from a task to a hobby and then to an obsession. There's no way an off-lease, repo', or rental car is going to have really good paint. A detailer can make it look good, but only for a while. Most of the UV blockers in modern clear coats are near the surface. So, the more of the clear coat polished off to remove scratches, the less UV blocker is left. Ten years in Floriduh sunlight will take its toll.

From my accounting skills, I know that new car depreciation the first year is about 25%. It's especially hard here in Florida because of all the rental cars hitting the used car market, and because there's a 6% state sales tax on cars. If you trade a car in you get a credit, only paying 6% on the difference between the new car and what you got in trade. If you do a private sale, you eat the 6%. But, you take a bath trading a car in, especially a newer one. I make up for that 25% new car hit by keeping my cars to an average of 105k miles, and up to twelve years.

For the last 15 years, my beaters have been new GM's, since I get a special deal on them. With my deal, it's cheaper to buy new than one-year old. I only kept my pick-up truck six years and 74k miles. But, I sold it for half of what I paid for it, and a lot of that depreciation was covered by my driving the truck on business trips. Although, I'm thinking about making my 535i my beater when it's six years old (in four years) and then grabbing a good deal on the end-of-platform 2020 M2. Buh-bye Cobalt!

A friend of mine's father and uncle are both retired Teamsters. There's a new law that industry-wide pension funds can re-nig on their benefit agreements if they're going broke. His father's pension got cut 35%. His uncle's pension got cut 65%.
So now even defined benefit pensions are not so defined anymore.

My next car will be either a 2012 Z06, 2014 Z06 or 2016 M4 ZCP purchased around 2020 as well.

I tell ya the M2 is one of the few cars that will have small depreciation. The 1M had 0 depreciation for about 2 years. People were selling their 20k mile 1Ms for sticker. Of course the M2 is going to ream the depreciation on the 1M now.
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So now even defined benefit pensions are not so defined anymore.

My next car will be either a 2012 Z06, 2014 Z06 or 2016 M4 ZCP purchased around 2020 as well.

I tell ya the M2 is one of the few cars that will have small depreciation. The 1M had 0 depreciation for about 2 years. People were selling their 20k mile 1Ms for sticker. Of course the M2 is going to ream the depreciation on the 1M now.
All of the first year's depreciation on my (early) 2002 M3 was that 6% Florida sales tax and federal luxury tax. I was just about at the front of the E46 M3 waiting list, right place, right time. But, by the end of the second year, M3 supply had caught up with M3 demand.

A lot of M2's will get flogged to death on track day. Also, like Dorito's and unlike 1M's... they'll make more. I suspect M235i sales will drop off to just about zero, replaced by M2's. M's always have lower depreciation (as a % of MSRP) than non-M BMW's. Although, the lowest depreciating cars are pick-up trucks, Japanese econo-boxes, and Corvettes, probably in that order.

My 535i will be two years old in two weeks. I looked up the value on KBB.com tonight. Making some reasonable assumptions (remaining tire tread, aftermarket mini-spare), it's depreciated about 15% in year two, down from 26% in year one. I loaded it up with $17k in options, though. Options depreciate faster than the car itself. But, I rationalized that $17k by keeping the car to 100k miles. Besides, the $1080 red sycamore wood really makes the $2500 Amaro Brown Merino leather "pop."

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Old 03-14-2016, 07:21 PM
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All of the first year's depreciation on my (early) 2002 M3 was that 6% Florida sales tax and federal luxury tax. I was just about at the front of the E46 M3 waiting list, right place, right time. But, by the end of the second year, M3 supply had caught up with M3 demand.

A lot of M2's will get flogged to death on track day. Also, like Dorito's and unlike 1M's... they'll make more. I suspect M235i sales will drop off to just about zero, replaced by M2's. M's always have lower depreciation (as a % of MSRP) than non-M BMW's. Although, the lowest depreciating cars are pick-up trucks, Japanese econo-boxes, and Corvettes, probably in that order.

My 535i will be two years old in two weeks. I looked up the value on KBB.com tonight. Making some reasonable assumptions (remaining tire tread, aftermarket mini-spare), it's depreciated about 15% in year two, down from 26% in year one. I loaded it up with $17k in options, though. Options depreciate faster than the car itself. But, I rationalized that $17k by keeping the car to 100k miles. Besides, the $1080 red sycamore wood really makes the $2500 Amaro Brown Merino leather "pop."
I think Japanese ecobobox deprecation/usage is optimum at around 7-10 year mark. Corvette values just don't drop. I'm not sure about pick ups, I don't track that market.

The best I've seen are on NSXs, almost zero depreciation, most of which is due to mileage not year over year changes.
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It had to earn its keep this weekend. We are in the process of getting Oakland home ready for sale and moving items to both Reno and Healdsburg houses. Drove a load of heavy furniture and misc large items up to Reno on Friday, and back down with empty trailer today. No idea how much the trailer weighed for the drive up by it was loaded.
No sweat going up the Sierras and I'm happy with the 18.6 MPG rating given the terrain, plus it's always fun to travel with the Burning Man crowd. My former Jeep GC would return 14MPG I same trip without a trailer!!

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Getting close to 57k miles and running as expected.
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More X5 love...
It had to earn its keep this weekend. We are in the process of getting Oakland home ready for sale and moving items to both Reno and Healdsburg houses. Drove a load of heavy furniture and misc large items up to Reno on Friday, and back down with empty trailer today. No idea how much the trailer weighed for the drive up by it was loaded.
No sweat going up the Sierras and I'm happy with the 18.6 MPG rating given the terrain, plus it's always fun to travel with the Burning Man crowd. My former Jeep GC would return 14MPG I same trip without a trailer!!

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Getting close to 57k miles and running as expected.
Cool. You're at the halfway point, if that.

I'm going to try to talk Frau Putzer into an X3 x30d when the new ones come out. I'd rather have an X5, but they are another $20k and Frau Putzer is rough on cars. It's a push letting her loose on a $56k BMW, much less a $76k one.

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Old 08-27-2016, 08:25 PM
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I actually am going for another 6.5 years with the X5 so it should be past 150k by then. No idea what I'll do then... I secretly keep toying with the idea of selling both the X5 and the 650 (especially now that I'm losing two garage spots), adding a big pile of cash and turning them into an Alpina B6, but the SO would quite literally kill me.

Didn't know the next gen X3 was coming to US with diesel again. If 3.0d is six cylinder, it should be a good drive.
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I actually am going for another 6.5 years with the X5 so it should be past 150k by then. No idea what I'll do then... I secretly keep toying with the idea of selling both the X5 and the 650 (especially now that I'm losing two garage spots), adding a big pile of cash and turning them into an Alpina B6, but the SO would quite literally kill me.

Didn't know the next gen X3 was coming to US with diesel again. If 3.0d is six cylinder, it should be a good drive.
I'm pretty sure the 3.0d will be the current 2.0 liter, turbocharged four-cylinder. Somebody posted "inside information" on another board saying the X3 U.S. lineup will be" sDrive30i, xDrive30i, xDrive30e, xDrive30d, and xDriveM40i. This will be a Frauwagen, and Frau Putzer really isn't a "driver." Her priorities in a car are: being up high, comfortable seats, heated seats, good stereo, good AC, nav,' and... a shark fin on the roof. The $5k or so I'll save on a four-cylinder will go in my M2-911 fund.

BMW made a 2.0 liter six back in the 1970's, but we never saw it here in the U.S.

VW's stopped selling diesels here. So, there's a big hole in the market if BMW wants to go after it. Diesel-ers are a militant bunch, for good reason. There's a new uptick in emission reg's coming in 2018, I think. VW said that weighed into their decision... yeah... along with Dieselgate.

With smaller vehicles, the advantages of a diesel is less, yet the emission compliance cost is just about the same. Other markets have a diesel X1, but we don't get it here.

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Update time. It's been one year since the 4/50 warranty expired based on miles, 15,000 miles have been added to the odometer, and it has been totally uneventful.

Happily there have been no repairs, maintenance wise it has had brake fluid, coolant, and a couple of oil changes. I replaced the rear brake pads rotors and wear sensors due to wear, and also installed less dusty front pads.

The most memorable X5 event this year has been related to the sale of our house in Oakland and move to two other homes we already owned - downsizing in preparation for less stress and overhead as retirement approaches. Since this was not your standard A to B move we ended up renting trailers and hauling belongings between the three places. The X5 performed flawlessly, and was particualrly impressive going up the Tahoe area passes with a fully loaded trailer. It is also handling the piles of Tahoe snow like a champ.

The overall costs per mile decreased slightly from $.270 to $.258. This will change in the upcoming year. It needs two sets of tires (one summer, one winter), trans diff and TC fluid changes, as well as a new thermostat which will be the first out of pocket repair unless a CEL comes up between now and the 70k mile trip to the shop. Honeymoon over. Feel free to debate depreciation at will again, but like last year I am not considering it in my running costs as I don't know what the actual depreciation will be until I sell the car.

Adding pictures of table with relevant costs breakdown and gratuitous photos. Still love the car. Yes, this is a little OCD but some might find it a nice change from problem threads.
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:58 PM
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Update time. It's been one year since the 4/50 warranty expired based on miles, 15,000 miles have been added to the odometer, and it has been totally uneventful.

Happily there have been no repairs, maintenance wise it has had brake fluid, coolant, and a couple of oil changes. I replaced the rear brake pads rotors and wear sensors due to wear, and also installed less dusty front pads.

The most memorable X5 event this year has been related to the sale of our house in Oakland and move to two other homes we already owned - downsizing in preparation for less stress and overhead as retirement approaches. Since this was not your standard A to B move we ended up renting trailers and hauling belongings between the three places. The X5 performed flawlessly, and was particualrly impressive going up the Tahoe area passes with a fully loaded trailer. It is also handling the piles of Tahoe snow like a champ.

The overall costs per mile decreased slightly from $.270 to $.258. This will change in the upcoming year. It needs two sets of tires (one summer, one winter), trans diff and TC fluid changes, as well as a new thermostat which will be the first out of pocket repair unless a CEL comes up between now and the 70k mile trip to the shop. Honeymoon over. Feel free to debate depreciation at will again, but like last year I am not considering it in my running costs as I don't know what the actual depreciation will be until I sell the car.

Adding pictures of table with relevant costs breakdown and gratuitous photos. Still love the car. Yes, this is a little OCD but some might find it a nice change from problem threads.
Good to see very little problem reported here. It gives me hope in my X5 35d ownership down the road. I guess I am more proactive at changing fluid then you have.

A coworker owns a 2006 BMW 3 series, he told me this is the first year after his warranty expired that he does not need to repair anything. Basically, he had finally replaced everything that could have been broken. Each year, he spent about $3k or so on repair. He told me he will still keep his BMW 3 series even after his wife's Tesla model 3 arrives. You just can't beat the feel of kit car associated with it. Even his Porsche MaCan makes him feel isolated when driving around. He now has more than 150k miles on the BMW 3 series. Looking at the current landscape, I think it would be hard to replace his BMW 3 series to have the same feel.

I am sure we all decided to get BMW due to personal value outweigh the financial costs. If I really do my computations, I don't understand how any one would buy BMW vs. Honda or Toyota. Dow hit a new high today at 21k. If I kept my Honda Accord instead and put the money into DOW, I would have made more than 50% more in gain. I would also missed out the fun of driving the car around during 4 years of ownership.

I have a feeling this BMW X5 will be like my coworker's 3 series. It will stay with me even after I decide to look for a replacement. That steering feel is really addictive. I hope 6 years later that I can get that steering feel back. I heard good thing about Porsche. Perhaps, I need to look there instead.
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You should try the older BMW's, steering feel and lighter weight combo was like nothing else. I wish I still had my former E30 convertible, I browse for used ones periodically but adding another car is out of the question these days. Knowing I can't replicate what I currently have is the reason I am hanging on to the E46 and the E63: Stick shifts, hydraulic steering, non turbo, easy to work on (E46 at least)... The reality is I have no need for either of those cars and I am now paying to garage one of them after selling Oakland. Be careful or the BMWs might start multiplying in your driveway as well.
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65k, that's all? I have 121k on mine now. And I drive it like a maniac.
121k! Nice, getting up there. I know, I'm slacking.
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I am certainly happy to hear that there are relatively trouble free X5d's out there. Mine has been a real headache, and with only 85k miles on it. Even my SA says this one is at a different level for causing emissions-related problems. We basically had the entire SCR system replaced last year and now we are back in the shop with the same codes (10k miles later). When/if the "real" problem is fixed I will have to post an update.

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I am certainly happy to hear that there are relatively trouble free X5d's out there. Mine has been a real headache, and with only 85k miles on it. Even my SA says this one is at a different level for causing emissions-related problems. We basically had the entire SCR system replaced last year and now we are back in the shop with the same codes (10k miles later). When/if the "real" problem is fixed I will have to post an update.

FredoinSF, thank you very much for the update!


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Awesome updates. My personal life isn't nearly as interesting life as your X5's life. I live vicariously through these updates
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I think Japanese ecobobox deprecation/usage is optimum at around 7-10 year mark. Corvette values just don't drop. I'm not sure about pick ups, I don't track that market.

The best I've seen are on NSXs, almost zero depreciation, most of which is due to mileage not year over year changes.
I drove my NSX for 2 years and sold it for more then I bought it for including repairs, gas and insurance. It was the best 2 years of my life.
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Not a detailed update, but reached the 70k mile mark not too long ago. I had some maintenance and what I would qualify as first repair.
Maintenance:
- Trans fluid change (first time)
- Diff and transfer case fluid change (2nd time)
- Belts
- Fuel filter
- New summer tires (all season rubber)

Repair:
- New thermostat due to lower than optimal operating temps measured on Carly.

I had my independent shop in Sonoma Co CA do the work due to lack of time, complexity of thermostat, mess of auto trans. Not cheap, but I assume the whole amount for parts and labor came to less than what a lot of people spend on a trimester worth of BMW payments. Totally worth it for presumed greater reliability and peace of mind.
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2012 X5d running costs

The X5 turned 5 years old as it was built in July 2012. It's a major milestone, so doing a mid year update after spending a couple of evenings cleaning it inside and out this week.
Started with interior leatherique leather cleaning and conditioning which I typically do once a year for the seats, leather dash, and top of door trim. First picture is the rinse water after the 24 hour rejuvenation treatment. Must have been a long dirty year!


Clean leather:


Next was engine bay cleaning. I had never done it since purchasing the car in May 2013. 62k miles since then, 72k total. Before picture:

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Finally got to paint care. Did Sonax fallout cleaner first to try to remove encrusted junk from tailgate area, then wash, polish, wax, black trim treatment.
Fallout cleaner at work. Did OK given spray and wait, but clay and more aggressive polish would have been better.


Clean car:




All followed by ceremonial add of the latest sticker for a memorable race: IM 70.3 Calgary a couple of weeks ago. Partner hates them so he won't be thrilled about the add, but it's my car and at least I can pick it out in the parking lot.


Moral of the story is trying to keep a daily driver clean is about as futile as putting toothpaste back into the tube. I'll still try it.




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Update time! Second anniversary of no warranty, aka flying without a net.

The verdict is I still love the X5 and it has been trouble free for yet another year. Miles went from 65,070 to 79,830 so another 15k miles which is the same as last year. Could have been more, more on that later.

What did it need in the past year? Maintenance wise it had a couple of oil changes, trans fluid and filter, diff oil, transfer case oil, fuel filter, belts at around 70k miles. The thermostat was replaced at the same time because coolant temp was in mid 70's, I categorized that as a repair so the X5 had its first official out of warranty repair bill. I did not have time to do the work other than basic oil changes so the maintenance and repair costs include labor at an independent. It got a new set of summer / all season tires (Conti DWS06's) and a new rear wiper. one of those new tires needed a patch after a puncture.
All of the above made my per mile running costs jump from $0.258 last year to $0.282. Chart below:


What's in store for next year? New winter tires for sure, likely a battery as well, and then mechanically who knows? I feel like I am entering the past due zone for DEF tank and rear suspension airbags. Hoping for the best (hope is no strategy but it's all I got) but expecting rougher waters.

To keep the what I did with it and why I still love it theme, here are the highlights. There was furniture shuffling from house to house as well as relocating the Vespa, but happily we are done moving.
I was able to do more triathlons so lots of bike and tri junk carrying to beautiful places such as Lake Berryessa, Lake Sonoma, Donner Lake and of course, Tahoe. One of those triathlons was in Calgary; I was going to drive, make a vacation out of it, and go to areas I have never been to. Life intervened and I ended flying in and out of Calgary for the event. Bummer.
That trip would have made the miles go up this year. Pictures below:
Moving furniture:


Vespa relo:


Car full of tri junk:


Lake Berryessa:


Flat tire fixin' in Nowhere, the middle of.


What it looks like today, it needs a wash:
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1988 635csi - 5 speed
1988 325i convertible - 5 speed
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You're still well in the "Happy Time" in your X5d's life. You've inspired me to clean up the engine bay on my four year old 535i.

Somebody wants my 535i. He said he realized I'd want over KBB (about $27k) for it, but how much more? I told him KBB plus what I'd save by keeping it another four years and 50k miles... add another $25k to that $27k. Instead, he's buying Frau Putzer's 2006 Honda Accord, 145k miles, for about $2k. Her X3 30i's being built next week.
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Yep, still in happy times. If I stick to the original ten year plan, Iím near the halfway point. The new 5 series sure looks nice though.
Interested about your thoughts on the X5 once you take delivery. Sat in one at the dealer recently and itís much improved. I think BMW has a winner with the latest one.


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1991 318is - 5 speed
1988 635csi - 5 speed
1988 325i convertible - 5 speed
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I think BMW has a winner with the latest one.
My E53 3.0 was a winner for 40k miles (starting over 100k!) and the E70 35d blows that out of the water after the first 9k miles (starting just under 100k). Naturally I believe the F15 will age just as well. The 8 speed is appealing (+mpg) as are the driver assistance features, SCR2 and single turbo should help reliability.
That being said I think I'll be looking for a lower-mileage higher-build late E70d when replacement time comes. Alpine perhaps but I do like space gray.

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I've never owned a diesel. So, I'm going on what I read on the Interwebs. Most BMW diesels owners' headaches seem to be associated with the emission systems. One of the big problems is clogged diesel particulate filters (DPF's). But, those problems seem to be associated with diesels that spend their lives putting around at low speed and in short trips. That's how Frau Putzer uses a car. We live literally 50 miles from the nearest interstate. So, a diesel wouldn't make much sense for us. She's getting an X3 because of the smaller size and lower cost. But, it sounds like your DPF gets nice and hot for a long time on a regular basis.

I think the current X5 is awesome. The current X5 might be the last BMW with German, properly hard seat cushions. I think this is the last year for the F15. They're giving it a short production cycle and no LCI. Everybody knows this. So, they're giving huge discounts now. My only bitch about an X5 is that you can't get it with non-RFT's. They do offer an optional spare tire, though. It sounds like unloading that Jeep, keeping the E70, and grabbing a bargain on an F15 would be a plan.

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I think this is the last year for the F15. They're giving it a short production cycle and no LCI. Everybody knows this. So, they're giving huge discounts now.
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