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Old 06-09-2016, 08:47 AM
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Lol. No he's not.
The goal was simply to make a fast n20, not to outdo the n55 or b58. However, the car is way quicker than I ever imagined. Voip, if you've tracked your 340i and have slips, post them here. It would be fun to compare once I track mine again. Not sure how close my power stacks up, but my car does weighs less. I read on bimmerpost that in taiwan, for the quarter mile, people are using 320is with upgraded turbos and forged pistons to get in the 12s!
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Old 06-09-2016, 09:53 AM
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Dang dude. You are a trip.

Be careful misinterpreting what people say.

As you already know, I never said I hadn't tracked it before. Every time something changes about the car, it's simply exciting to bring it to the track to test it. What I said was, now that it's nearly complete I have to dyno it and track it for slips. I see you looking for inconsistencies where there are none. Also, I do not promote street racing or speeding outside the track. Maybe you should redirect your efforts toward saving up for that new car rather than trolling the forums.

The name is bmwtight2me, not Night Rider. Stop trying to derail the thread and stir up arguments.
Sp why is this track so secret?
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Old 06-09-2016, 10:25 AM
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Cause I feel like it. Can't tell you all my secrets. In terms of local spots, I like willow springs.
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Old 06-09-2016, 10:49 AM
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I got to really experiment with sport+ for the first time last night. It's amazing. Shifting is not only faster but it has a different sound and character. Also without the traction control monitoring the turns, there is more available power through the apex. And the the rear wheels have no problem sliding around if they want to. I'm surprised this feature doesn't come standard. More evidence to show BMW curbs performance for marketing and sales reasons. This function was already in my car, I just need to activate it via code. Any f30 would benefit from this function, so why deactivate it for any reason other than to make money off options.
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:20 AM
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My wifes 320i on ZSP suspension is a dammn fine handling car. Pushing the DSC button once engages "traction"; I call it dynamic mode. The only time the DSC will interrupt is if your brakes are locked up OR your yaw is sensing a uncorrectable spin OR your wheel spin is completely excessive.

I won't go into details but I have a bit of experience in driving. With that said (and I've said this before) there is a big difference between the vehicles limit and your personal comfort limit. 99% of BMW drivers have no clue what even their X5 is capable of.

I could probably take most anyone on a track in minivan and scare the crap out of them. I could probably tow your F30 with my X5 faster than you could drive it around the same track.

My point is; you talk about coding. If you knew what the 3 settings of DSC actually did, there's no need for sport+ unless you have dhp of course.

Do some research and honestly take a performance driving course... you'll surprise yourself.
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:26 AM
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I could probably take most anyone on a track in minivan and scare the crap out of them. I could probably tow your F30 with my X5 faster than you could drive it around the same track.
The above reminds me of this.

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Old 06-09-2016, 11:44 AM
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The above reminds me of this.

Sabine is awesome. I would never compare myself to her lol.

My whole point is that there's more to going fast on a track than horsepower. HP is actually in my opinion the very last thing to upgrade. The very first upgrade?the driver... Formal driving training. Then tires/brakes, then suspension and even aero.

Seems as most people, especially Mr "320 from hell", go in reverse order and its silly to me. If you want more power there's 328, 335 or even the M3.

On a side not I've been driving a 318d wagon with dhp around Europe all month and I love this little bastard. I've been in Germany a lot lately so my MPG has dropped to 52.8mpg. in Czech I averaged just shy of 60mpg.
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:55 AM
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My wifes 320i on ZSP suspension is a dammn fine handling car. Pushing the DSC button once engages "traction"; I call it dynamic mode. The only time the DSC will interrupt is if your brakes are locked up OR your yaw is sensing a uncorrectable spin OR your wheel spin is completely excessive.

I won't go into details but I have a bit of experience in driving. With that said (and I've said this before) there is a big difference between the vehicles limit and your personal comfort limit. 99% of BMW drivers have no clue what even their X5 is capable of.

I could probably take most anyone on a track in minivan and scare the crap out of them. I could probably tow your F30 with my X5 faster than you could drive it around the same track.

My point is; you talk about coding. If you knew what the 3 settings of DSC actually did, there's no need for sport+ unless you have dhp of course.

Do some research and honestly take a performance driving course... you'll surprise yourself.
Not true. Sport+ is its own unique setting. Just like sport mode it has a more sensitive throttle response, but different traction control settings. Merely using the traction control/DSC modes will not get you the same settings as sport+. "DSC off" has a much less sensitive/jumpy feel to the pedal. Also if you had the Dinan or jb4 on the car you would also notice the difference in boost when not is sport or sport+. I like the responsive feel when lightly pressing the gas in sport+ with the jb4.

How do I know this? Research and testing. This chart lists some of the basic differences.



And I have taken driving courses, and continue to do so. Thanks.

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Old 06-09-2016, 12:31 PM
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Sabine is awesome. I would never compare myself to her lol.

My whole point is that there's more to going fast on a track than horsepower. HP is actually in my opinion the very last thing to upgrade. The very first upgrade?the driver... Formal driving training. Then tires/brakes, then suspension and even aero.

Seems as most people, especially Mr "320 from hell", go in reverse order and its silly to me. If you want more power there's 328, 335 or even the M3.
Look at your statement. Did you even read the thread?

I did wheels, tires, and full custom suspension and ride height. Not only that, I did it all months before the jb4 and turbo mods (FMIC, downpipe, and charge pipes). If I cared only about horsepower why would I buy a 320i instead of a 335/340i? I valued efficiency over senseless power when choosing my f30. I'm sure I'm not the only one who bought a 320i even though they could afford higher.

The purpose of this thread is to show how one can take an efficient, low-priced 320i and modify it to improve nearly any aspect of performance.

I love the way my car drives. It's perfect for me. And it just so happens to be pretty damn quick too!
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Cause I feel like it. Can't tell you all my secrets. In terms of local spots, I like willow springs.
So you states that you went 140 on a "track" which many people including myself do not believe. Now you just talked about doing the 1/8 and 1/4 mile, so are you saying your 320i trap speed is 140mph?

What do you like about Willow Springs? Are you talking the big course or streets?
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Sabine is awesome. I would never compare myself to her lol.

My whole point is that there's more to going fast on a track than horsepower.
This is so true, when I was road racing motorcycles my all time fave bike was my RG250R, to get more track time, I would race in the open class, those guys on the GSXR 1100 couldn't understand how or why I was passing them up.. Of course it took 2-3 laps to do it, but it was fun picking them off one at a time. We all know that Knight Rider doesn't have the chops to lap willow anything close to what his care is capable of.
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So you states that you went 140 on a "track" which many people including myself do not believe. Now you just talked about doing the 1/8 and 1/4 mile, so are you saying your 320i trap speed is 140mph?

What do you like about Willow Springs? Are you talking the big course or streets?
Not going to be able to time 140 nor do I plan on doing that again really. Simply wanted to try pushing it once when it was still newer. At the time did it with ONLY the Dinan stage 1. Believe it or not.

At willows I've stuck to the streets. I had only the Dinan when I last tracked it. I have not gone back with full bolt ons and jb4. When I do I will hit the big track and let you know how fast I can get it on the straight.

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Not going to be able to time 140 nor do I plan on doing that again really. Simply wanted to try pushing it once when it was still newer. At the time did it with ONLY the Dinan stage 1. Believe it or not.

At willows I've stuck to the streets. I had only the Dinan when I last tracked it. I have not gone back with full bolt ons and jb4. When I do I will hit the big track and let you know how fast I can get it on the straight.
Since you went 140 on a "track" then you should be MUCH faster then the big track.. BTW here is a something from the Willow Springs web site about the big track.

The main track at Willow Springs Raceway, informally called the "Big Willow", consists of 9 turns. The layout is built for speed, but combines speed with turns and elevation changes to offer a unique challenge. It is possible for a capable car or motorcycle to exceed 160mph on the front straightway.

Now to give you some insight on the big track, there is a dip at the apex of turn 9, if you are not set right for that dip, your car or bike will get squirrely and you will not be running hot out of the corner and you will NOT be hitting 140 at the end of the straight away. I'm also beating that your average lap speed will be far below what you think you can run, Im saying in the low 60 possibly mid 60 mph.. Porsche GT2 and GT3 are averaging mid 90's average speed and these are guys who are PRO's. Can't wait to hear what your speed will be.
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Where I tested it, the "track" was much longer. Maybe I should have said "long stretch of asphalt".

I look forward to taking on the big track in the 320i. You're welcome to meet me there and we can test it together
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Sabine is awesome. I would never compare myself to her lol.

My whole point is that there's more to going fast on a track than horsepower. HP is actually in my opinion the very last thing to upgrade. The very first upgrade?the driver... Formal driving training. Then tires/brakes, then suspension and even aero.

Seems as most people, especially Mr "320 from hell", go in reverse order and its silly to me. If you want more power there's 328, 335 or even the M3.

On a side not I've been driving a 318d wagon with dhp around Europe all month and I love this little bastard. I've been in Germany a lot lately so my MPG has dropped to 52.8mpg. in Czech I averaged just shy of 60mpg.
I find your European driving perspective to be refreshing.

Side note, I agree. If you want epic power, get a 335 and go from there. n20 has a ceiling, bottom line. I mean, I could go buy an old Acura Integra and throw as supercharger kit on it too.
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Nowhere in the thread does it say what tires your running, just ridiculous 20's of a F30. Nowhere does it say what driving school you've taken. Nowhere does it say where you have tracked the car DIRECTLY, or with lap times.

BRO... you drive a ****INGG 320 with some bolt-ons..
That's IF anything you've said is true.

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320i from HELL

I think people should lighten up on the OP. It's his car and he should do what makes him happy.

The only issue is when the smack talking begins such as "only an idiot buys a 328i when you can buy a 320i and tune it"

People can say whatever they want about320i/328i differences being all marketing. The reality is the cars have different mechanical parts so now you ask yourself how "over" engineered do the Germans do things and what kind of risk do you take with your car and your warranty.

If someone wants to really be a smartass they can calculate how much straightaway it takes to get to 140mph in a tuned F30 and how long the straightaway at willow are.

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I think he's hinting that he drove 140mph on public road.
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Nowhere in the thread does it say what tires your running, just ridiculous 20's of a F30. Nowhere does it say what driving school you've taken. Nowhere does it say where you have tracked the car DIRECTLY, or with lap times.

BRO... you drive a ****INGG 320 with some bolt-ons..
That's IF anything you've said is true.

Feeling froggy? Post last 7 of vin.....
Dang JoJo -- no clue what compels you to comment on this thread... You might be some great driver, but all we see is your condescending and irreverent comments.

Just because you're putting so much effort into trying to call me out... This is for you:



Later BRO

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And I have taken driving courses, and continue to do so.

Keep doin' what you're doin'! My HPDE instructors have all stated that continuous learning and practice is essential to being a good driver, and I trust them.
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