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Old 08-09-2018, 11:06 AM
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How hard is too hard to drive?

Hi guys,

I bought a 2003 3.0 z4 about a week ago, 80k. I know these cars cannot be babied too much, they have to be "driven". Where is the line drawn however?

What's the definition of driving hard? I personally try to rarely go over 5k rmp. I even hate the way Sport mode will seem to keep you revved over 3k longer than necessary. The downshifts seem a little harsh as well in sport mode. What is your definition of drving hard? How often do you drive hard?
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:04 PM
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Hi, I don't think you need to worry about it, your driving habits are fine. In the old days with carburetors, engines could get loaded up with carbon and need a good "Italian tune up" i.e. a good 6000 rpm blast down the autobahn to blow the carbon out. But these days with fuel injection and sophisticated ignitions, the requirement isn't there. Still feels good to do it though. :-)
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:34 PM
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:43 AM
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^^^ that about covers it
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:56 AM
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Hi guys,

I bought a 2003 3.0 z4 about a week ago, 80k. I know these cars cannot be babied too much, they have to be "driven". Where is the line drawn however?

What's the definition of driving hard? I personally try to rarely go over 5k rmp. I even hate the way Sport mode will seem to keep you revved over 3k longer than necessary. The downshifts seem a little harsh as well in sport mode. What is your definition of drving hard? How often do you drive hard?
is this your first car ?
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Old 08-15-2018, 12:23 AM
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You'll be fine!

There's no such thing as driving hard in an automatic transmission car
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:16 AM
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I have driven mine, more than once, in the mountains hard enough for the DTC to kick-in in several turns when I'm in the twisties and haven't seen any ill effects in my '03.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:49 AM
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There is a guy in my 'hood with a 2003 Zed 2.5i auto trans, with 55,000 on the clock.
He is actually proud of the fact that he has never taken it over 65 mph.
Drives it to the supermarket, the liquor store, and pharmacy...has never driven it more than 40 miles from his home.
Has had the top down 6 times since he bought it new...

My question to him is always....WTF!?
He always answers, 'I don't like to abuse my Z like you do.'

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Old 08-16-2018, 03:25 PM
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I was feeling a bit rowdy today...buzzed the engine above 6,000 rpm a few times. Your neighbor may have shamed me.

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Old 08-16-2018, 03:34 PM
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I was feeling a bit rowdy today...buzzed the engine above 6,000 rpm a few times. Your neighbor may have shamed me.

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Walkin’ on The wild side..good at ya, David.
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:46 PM
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Walkin’ on The wild side..good at ya, David.
Yes, and its still such a civilized-sounding car even while spooled up.

You should hear this one above 6 grand. Sounds like all hell has broken open and it can be heard for at least 1/2 mile away.
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:05 PM
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This picture brings tears to my eyes and makes my heart race and sing...,thanks for sharing.

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Old 08-16-2018, 04:13 PM
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Hi guys,

I bought a 2003 3.0 z4 about a week ago, 80k. I know these cars cannot be babied too much, they have to be "driven". Where is the line drawn however?

What's the definition of driving hard? I personally try to rarely go over 5k rmp. I even hate the way Sport mode will seem to keep you revved over 3k longer than necessary. The downshifts seem a little harsh as well in sport mode. What is your definition of drving hard? How often do you drive hard?
Once the engine is completely warm (at least 20 minutes driving) you can drive it as hard as you want up to the rpm limits.
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There is a guy in my 'hood with a 2003 Zed 2.5i auto trans, with 55,000 on the clock.
He is actually proud of the fact that he has never taken it over 65 mph.
Drives it to the supermarket, the liquor store, and pharmacy...has never driven it more than 40 miles from his home.
Has had the top down 6 times since he bought it new...

My question to him is always....WTF!?
He always answers, 'I don't like to abuse my Z like you do.'
Don’t ask that question, or ask him any other questions. Just take him out back and kick his ass for him good.
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:41 PM
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As a truck owner my entire adult life I actually say to myself this car is one of few that would hold up to my driving. New England pot holes to boot. I don't always push the 3.0i @62k engine mostly because it just doesn't ask to be tested at every turn. But, it loves to rev to the high end, and I indulge every 100 miles or so. She has it where it counts, chassis stiffness, good even power, enough for my needs. Why do people lust for expensive incremental power on a car that already goes 145? You have to look at it as a complete package. Even the new Koni's are just getting broken in after my first summer of fun. Need a rocket? a million other choices. Poise, style, fun and distinction? Here ya go.
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:52 PM
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As a truck owner my entire adult life I actually say to myself this car is one of few that would hold up to my driving. New England pot holes to boot. I don't always push the 3.0i @62k engine mostly because it just doesn't ask to be tested at every turn. But, it loves to rev to the high end, and I indulge every 100 miles or so. She has it where it counts, chassis stiffness, good even power, enough for my needs. Why do people lust for expensive incremental power on a car that already goes 145? You have to look at it as a complete package. Even the new Koni's are just getting broken in after my first summer of fun. Need a rocket? a million other choices. Poise, style, fun and distinction? Here ya go.
Well said. I was not a gear head growing up but this car has more than enough power for me. I will tweak suspension abit eventually but power to weight for me.is more than enough.

However.....more HP isnt a bad thing IF you can control it
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Old 08-17-2018, 06:42 AM
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Don't ask that question, or ask him any other questions. Just take him out back and kick his ass for him good.
Bwahaha...will do.
Then I will take his Zed out for a ride and rip it a new arsehole!

Maybe I'll take his wife for the ride of her life too...she looks like she's ready to be...


To be continued.

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