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Old 12-07-2019, 01:26 PM
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Most of the German cars depreciate like crazy. I have always found it to be much more cost effective to either lease or purchase lightly used. I would also be upset if I took the kind of hit you took.
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Old 12-07-2019, 01:52 PM
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Most of the German cars depreciate like crazy. I have always found it to be much more cost effective to either lease or purchase lightly used. I would also be upset if I took the kind of hit you took.
I can well afford the hit. I thought The Ultimate Driving Machine would last a little longer than the warranty. Ridiculous waste of money.
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Old 12-07-2019, 01:58 PM
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Purchased $68,200
Traded $24,800
37,000 miles
First, that's not a $45,000 loss as you claimed.

Second, I cannot imagine spending close to $70,000 on a 4 cylinder BMW. Are you that rare BMW driver who paid MSRP? If so, that is hardly the car's fault.

Third, KBB says the trade in value on that car (even with that high mileage) is $27,695, while the Private Party Sale value is $35,269. Sounds like either the car was in rough shape when you traded it in, or the Lexus dealer ripped you off for $3,000 to $10,000. Again, how is that BMW's fault?

Clearly, BMW is not the marque for you; your prior posts have made that pretty clear. So why do you feel the need to keep trolling on a site for BMW enthusiasts (and enthusiasts who neither overpay for their rides, nor give them away for less-than-market value)? You may think your experience reflects poorly on BMW, but it really reflects poorly on you.
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Old 12-07-2019, 02:09 PM
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Purchased $68,200
Traded $24,800
37,000 miles
First, that's not a $45,000 loss as you claimed.

Second, I cannot imagine spending close to $70,000 on a 4 cylinder BMW. Are you that rare BMW driver who paid MSRP? If so, that is hardly the car's fault.

Third, KBB says the trade in value on that car (even with that high mileage) is $27,695, while the Private Party Sale value is $35,269. Sounds like either the car was in rough shape when you traded it in, or the Lexus dealer ripped you off for $3,000 to $10,000. Again, how is that BMW's fault?

Clearly, BMW is not the marque for you; your prior posts have made that pretty clear. So why do you feel the need to keep trolling on a site for BMW enthusiasts (and enthusiasts who neither overpay for their rides, nor give them away for less-than-market value)? You may think your experience reflects poorly on BMW, but it really reflects poorly on you.
Ok, $44,000 hit, sorry. Ignoring your nasty attitude, I will explain. I paid a little less than MSRP (it was the beginning of the model year and a custom color), but in any event, the point is I had 3 estimates for trade in including the BMW dealer and they were all about the same. The custom color I paid extra for (snapper rocks) is a deduction from trade in value for some reason. The point is, it was such a disappointment that I would have accepted less just to get rid of it. Last time I checked, I am still a member of the bimmerfest forum and will continue to visit and express my opinion as I please. Feel free to ignore my posts as you feel appropriate.
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Old 12-07-2019, 09:12 PM
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Depreciation Hit

I was being empathetic in telling you I would also be upset about taking such a big hit. Why would you feel the need to post a response that you "can well afford the hit". Do you think I or any one else is impressed with this statement that you think you have a lot of money? I think you will find in life that most people like a humble person.

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Old 12-07-2019, 10:28 PM
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Custom colors don't mean you can't get a substantial discount. 10% off retail is not hard to come by. Second, even if it's as you say, that was your choice. Last, you also made the choice to trade your car which is always worse case and the high mileage for an 18 month old car exacerbates the issue.
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Old 12-08-2019, 04:12 AM
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I was being empathetic in telling you I would also be upset about taking such a big hit. Why would you feel the need to post a response that you "can well afford the hit". Do you think I or any one else is impressed with this statement that you think you have a lot of money? I think you will find in life that most people like a humble person.
and I was making the point that the biggest disappointment was not the financial hit but it was the complete and utter failure of BMW to live up to my expectations. I think you will find in life that humble people donít give life advice to strangers on the internet. Isnít it time for you to do a transmission flush or buy wheel spacers or something? Donít bother responding. I donít really care what you think. Cheers.
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Old 12-08-2019, 04:21 AM
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Custom colors don't mean you can't get a substantial discount. 10% off retail is not hard to come by. Second, even if it's as you say, that was your choice. Last, you also made the choice to trade your car which is always worse case and the high mileage for an 18 month old car exacerbates the issue.
Not discounted at the beginning of the model year where I live. Yes, it was my choice. Dealers donít usually accept involuntary trade-ins. I believe there is another legal term for that. Oh yeah, theft.
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Old 12-08-2019, 06:33 AM
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Not discounted at the beginning of the model year where I live. Yes, it was my choice. Dealers donít usually accept involuntary trade-ins. I believe there is another legal term for that. Oh yeah, theft.
The F33 has been on the market since 2014 I think. It hasnít changed much and itís not rare. Itís also well known that you can always get good discounts. As far as trade ins, that was your decision. Itís a business transaction. Take responsibility for your decisions.
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Old 12-08-2019, 06:35 AM
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and I was making the point that the biggest disappointment was not the financial hit but it was the complete and utter failure of BMW to live up to my expectations. I think you will find in life that humble people donít give life advice to strangers on the internet. Isnít it time for you to do a transmission flush or buy wheel spacers or something? Donít bother responding. I donít really care what you think. Cheers.
Thereís no need to be rude. Please respect others opinions.
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Old 12-08-2019, 06:40 AM
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Thereís no need to be rude. Please respect others opinions.
You are being more persistent than the DRIVETRAIN MALFUNCTION warning on my former BMW. If there was no need to be rude I wouldnít be. Go check your run-flats. Bye. I am UNFRIENDING YOU! (Is this the right site for that?)
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:20 AM
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You are being more persistent than the DRIVETRAIN MALFUNCTION warning on my former BMW. If there was no need to be rude I wouldn't be. Go check your run-flats. Bye. I am UNFRIENDING YOU! (Is this the right site for that?)
You can choose to ignore my posts if you like.

Keep in mind I'm the moderator here so I see every post.

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Old 12-08-2019, 07:23 AM
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You are being more persistent than the DRIVETRAIN MALFUNCTION warning on my former BMW. If there was no need to be rude I wouldn't be. Go check your run-flats. Bye. I am UNFRIENDING YOU! (Is this the right site for that?)
You can choose to ignore my posts if you like.
Ok Boomer (or Bimmer? I forget)
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:48 AM
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The reason I bought my 2016 435i GC new is because I knew Iíd never drive it enough to even justify a lease. Now I have 12,400 miles on it and have had zero issues with it. I didnít bother getting an extended warranty.
PS. He had a 4 cylinder? I thought the ď435Ē always meant 6. ?


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Yup. Never again. Cost a fortune (convertible), broke down (drivetrain malfunction at 37,000 miles) in a terrible spot in Upstate NY, and dropped $45,000 in value on trade in 18 months after I bought it.


First off one car does not equal an entire brand being ****. There are lemons in every manufacturer/class. Iíve not had any issues like you over the last 20 years owning several Bimmers. I currently have 5 of them in various states of mileage and age with the oldest one coming up on 20 years. Sorry for your bad experience but itís certainly not the norm, nor the reason to smear an entire brand and their product portfolio.


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Old 12-08-2019, 11:43 AM
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We bought a 2015 435i in late November.

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I sold my 2018 430ix because it was so unreliable it was more worry than fun. Happy to switch to Lexus!
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He had a 4 cylinder? I thought the ď435Ē always meant 6?
The OP (KillerFrog, who seems like a decent guy) has a 435. The troll had a 430, which is a 4 cylinder.
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:01 PM
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I can well afford the hit. I thought The Ultimate Driving Machine would last a little longer than the warranty. Ridiculous waste of money.
If I understand this transaction correctly you overpaid for the car when new. You had a transmission breakdown which was covered by warranty. You drove the car a lot and ran up more miles than most drivers. After owning the car for a relatively short time you decided to sell to the dealer at a substantial loss. Why would you first make such an unwise financial decision and then complain about making it? Is this your first new car? I ask because you apparently don't understand that cars can break down under warranty.
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If I understand this transaction correctly you overpaid for the car when new. You had a transmission breakdown which was covered by warranty. You drove the car a lot and ran up more miles than most drivers. After owning the car for a relatively short time you decided to sell to the dealer at a substantial loss. Why would you first make such an unwise financial decision and then complain about making it? Is this your first new car? I ask because you apparently don't understand that cars can break down under warranty.
I donít know, I guess Iím not that smart. I thought since I drive more than most I would buy the best car I could get. Being stranded in Upstate NY with a new car was not in my plan. Between the unreliable car and the snotty dealer it was a really bad experience. Anyone else going to chime in and insult me? You all know Iím right.
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Old 12-08-2019, 02:02 PM
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I truly feel for you that your car broke down but that can happen with any brand. Condemning BMW is not fair. By the way no one thinks you're right. Make no mistake.
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Old 12-08-2019, 02:24 PM
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I don't know, I guess I'm not that smart. I thought since I drive more than most I would buy the best car I could get. Being stranded in Upstate NY with a new car was not in my plan. Between the unreliable car and the snotty dealer it was a really bad experience. Anyone else going to chime in and insult me? You all know I'm right.
You may want to think about why all cars come with a warranty. The only way to guarantee you won't be stranded is to not drive. Your responses sure make me think this is your first new car.

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Purchased $68,200
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Wow...looks like you got ripped off when you bought it and when you traded it.

Do you not like to confront salespeople when they give you their first price, or are you just a sucker?

This doesn't sound like a 430ix problem, it sounds like a you problem. Enjoy that Lexus, gramps.
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Old 12-10-2019, 06:25 AM
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Wow...looks like you got ripped off when you bought it and when you traded it.

Do you not like to confront salespeople when they give you their first price, or are you just a sucker?

This doesn't sound like a 430ix problem, it sounds like a you problem. Enjoy that Lexus, gramps.
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