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Old 04-12-2015, 08:54 AM
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We are a 335/Odyssey family. It's amazing what will fit in the Odyssey when the middle row is removed! With all of the bells and whistles, it's very BMW like.
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I am gradually aging out of my 2005 Ody but we own that, new F31 and a Highlander. We have always added new cars with a specific set of uses planned, so that we have several vehicles, each with their own strengths. Although I enjoy driving, at least at times, cars to me are best when they make it easy for you to do what you want. My Ody allowed us to take our kids on fantastic vacations, trucked their musical equip to untold gigs, and then each son took it to college with all the gear, hundreds of miles away. Never failed to deliver, never broke down, and only Ody owners wil believe this....it's actually very enjoyable and comfortable on long trips. Finally, the cost of ownership of my loaded Ody has been so low that it helps offset the new BMW nicely. So, to me an F series and and Ody for a young suburban family is a perfect pair. Yeah, Chazy wouldn't be caught dead in one but that's just another plus to me.
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So my wife is due in August with our second child and my lease is up in December. I do not want to give up my 335 but as life changes so do our cars. I have been thinking about moving into a X3 35i am I making a mistake?
The sedan will do fine but you can do more in an X3/SUV, and a lot more in a van if you are not concerned about image.
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I tried to get my wife to buy a Honda Odyssey last year. She looked at me sideways and told me that I AM NOT READY FOR THAT YET! So I got her a Highlander. All of our neighbors have suburbans and odysseys for a reason I told her, but what do I know?

I took the car sweat to the dealership again and even though on paper the X3 doe snot look bigger than than a 3 series there are advantages. The door opening is much easier to get a child in when using a rear facing child seat. Currently I have to tilt my child's head back in order to get him into the car. The x3's 2nd row doors are more vertical. The other major difference is the curvature of the sports seat in my car take up more room than the seats in the x3. For those 2 reasons along it will make life easier for me when picking up 2 kids at daycare.

Again I coming out of a lease and needs something that will satisfy my aggressive driving style before picking the kids up till they are either in a booster char or a forward facing car seat. I looked at the GT and if feels roomier than the x3 but it will has the same door problem my 3 series has.

Does anyone know of a car is a cross between the refinement of BMW and the cost of a Subaru? j/k
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Why not a 5 series sedan?
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I say just lease the odessey. Then the kids will be 3 and 4. At that point you return it and get something sportier if you want. But bang for buck the top of the line odessey really can't be beat when it comes to dealing with kids. And it will still cost less than a well optioned BMW.

Or go for something like a Mercedes sprinter van. Those are very underrated too. Though they come with less "kid friendliness" in mind they are still very functional. Hell my 3 kids were fine in a GMC Astro Van when we first moved to the states.
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I'll play devils advocate here: The Odyssey is a great second vehicle. I love ours. We went down to the winery last month with 5 adults and it was awesome. Comfortable, roomy, good highway mileage.
I make hardware store runs all of the time with it. Bags of concrete or pool salt, 2x4's, flower pots, gas cans for the mowers and trimmers. I've even hauled furniture, and my gazebo that I recently put up.
But here's the only downside: The 0-60 is about 7.8 seconds, which is great for a vehicle that can haul 8 people, but when you're out running errands in it, and a douche in a full-sized pickup is giving you a hard time, or you're lined up next to a Camry who wants your lane, you'll wish you had taken the 335! Happens to me all of the time!
This is why I have both. When I take the 3 out, it's payback time!
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I'll play devils advocate here: The Odyssey is a great second vehicle. I love ours. We went down to the winery last month with 5 adults and it was awesome. Comfortable, roomy, good highway mileage.
I make hardware store runs all of the time with it. Bags of concrete or pool salt, 2x4's, flower pots, gas cans for the mowers and trimmers. I've even hauled furniture, and my gazebo that I recently put up.
But here's the only downside: The 0-60 is about 7.8 seconds, which is great for a vehicle that can haul 8 people, but when you're out running errands in it, and a douche in a full-sized pickup is giving you a hard time, or you're lined up next to a Camry who wants your lane, you'll wish you had taken the 335! Happens to me all of the time!
This is why I have both. When I take the 3 out, it's payback time!
Well--when the wife doesn't want a minivan, that ends any type of discussion based on data or logic....
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Well--when the wife doesn't want a minivan, that ends any type of discussion based on data or logic....
And that's the bottom line in this discussion.
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I have 3yo twins and an f30 and they fit very well in it. I never had a rear facing car seat in it. We took my wife's car when they were small. By the time your newborn is going to daycare your oldest will be in a front facing car seat which will make it easier for you to fit both in your F30. Your front seat passenger won't have much room, but it's certainly doable. The F30 trunk will easily swallow a small double stroller like a mclauren umbrella stroller plus some gear so you'll even be able to take small trips in the F30 if you feel so inclined.

All this said though, if you're coming out of a lease now then it does seem kind of silly to start another 3 series lease when a larger vehicle would make your life a little easier. So get the X3 and I think you'll find you really enjoy it.

Other options are lager cars:

Infinity Q50 - slightly bigger than the F30
528 - slightly bigger than the F30
CTS - Bigger than F30 plus great dynamics
Lexus GS - bigger and reliable
Chevy SS - i really enjoy this one and the backseat and trunk is huge. This is the one I almost got. The new mag ride on 2015s also helps with the stiff ride problem of the 2014

There are also some cheaper options that make sense. If you're going to drive a less than perfect car for you, why not save some money and worry less about backseat damage from juice and throw up.
Passat V6 - HUGE backseat with german dynamics
Honda Accord V6 - Great car at a great price
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Why not a 5 series sedan?
That's a very expensive car to have trashed by small kids. I mean you can subtract it from the college fund but I'm not sure how that works out for everybody involved.

I can only repeat my recommendation to check out the 3 GT. I drove one and I was surprised how much bigger it is, even in the front. It is higher and longer and has the big hatch.

It does the big hatch better than the 4 GC and the front is much larger than the 3 wagon. Plus pano roof. And i6 engine!
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How the F30 is too small for kids in America is a big mystery to me, meanwhile, a whole German family can get in the same car with all their belongings and a couple of pets too. Kids aren't born 6 feet tall! I would keep the F30 for a few more years...It's no wonder BMW feels the need to make their cars bigger and bigger when this is the type of feedback they receive from consumers.
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How the F30 is too small for kids in America is a big mystery to me, meanwhile, a whole German family can get in the same car with all their belongings and a couple of pets too. Kids aren't born 6 feet tall! I would keep the F30 for a few more years...It's no wonder BMW feels the need to make their cars bigger and bigger when this is the type of feedback they receive from consumers.

I am just going to say you do not have small kids. Baby / toddlers require a massive amount of stuff.
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I am just going to say you do not have small kids. Baby / toddlers require a massive amount of stuff.
And you still won't have the one thing you need but forgot!
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How the F30 is too small for kids in America is a big mystery to me, meanwhile, a whole German family can get in the same car with all their belongings and a couple of pets too. Kids aren't born 6 feet tall! I would keep the F30 for a few more years...It's no wonder BMW feels the need to make their cars bigger and bigger when this is the type of feedback they receive from consumers.
Cause Americans believe they need to pack the living room for a day trip. When i grew up we had a nissan stanza and later on maxima. They were roughly the size of an e90 (if not smaller). We did fine
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A f30 with two small kids will be fine. You have a highlander as the other car you need to haul bigger things. Having a minivan and a highlander is kind of overkill if you ask me
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Cause Americans believe they need to pack the living room for a day trip. When i grew up we had a nissan stanza and later on maxima. They were roughly the size of an e90 (if not smaller). We did fine

+1 when I was a little kid my parents had a 1981 Accord hatchback and a 1983 Toyota Cressida both of those cars were smaller than a f30
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+1 when I was a little kid my parents had a 1981 Accord hatchback and a 1983 Toyota Cressida both of those cars were smaller than a f30

Of course, back then it was ok for kids to ride in the hatchback...
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Of course, back then it was ok for kids to ride in the hatchback...

The primary car was the 4 door sedan
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My neighbors will think I was some kind of selfish prick i am sure.
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I am just going to say you do not have small kids. Baby / toddlers require a massive amount of stuff.

I've raised 3 kids and now take three small grandkids on ventures. We have never owned full size cars. The amount of stuff loaded into the car is for the adults to decide. If the adults pack a weeks worth of stuff for a day trip then sure you will need an SUV. A 3 series should be able to handle two adults, two kids in car seats and the usual bottles, diapers, clothes, etc., with no problem at all.
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