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The sixth generation BMW 3 Series Sedan F30/F31/F34 and the first first generation 4 Series Coupe F32/F33/F36. Get the latest 3 and 4 series pricing from our ordering and pricing guide sticky thread.

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Old 10-19-2012, 04:51 PM
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My main love with the S4 was the transmission. The Audi manual just felt better compared to the BMW shifter.
Can you comment on the differences? I am particularly interested in pedal placement. Some cars have the pedal a little too much to the right/center.
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:54 PM
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Yeah, I've seen the stick shake when the cars idling, but BMW's I6 has always been it's trademark. It's what BMW does. I'm sure with time, this four banger(if kept in production) will work it's way to be as smooth as the I6 is today.
I6's is what BMW has been doing lately in the US. It was too long ago that 318's were as common as 325's. So we are now basically getting a turbo-charged version of the 318.
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Old 10-19-2012, 05:04 PM
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In my limited experience cross-shopping the real-world pricing for the S4 doesn't really line up with the 335i though. I 100% agree that you're getting more performance, but you're also paying more real $$$ to get it.....
If you are mostly after the performance aspect of the S4, a nicely equipped P+ S4 comes in slightly under $50K, which is less than what some folks are paying here for seriously-optioned 328's.
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Old 10-19-2012, 05:11 PM
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We have a 2011 Audi S4 with a DCT, a 2011.5 M3 sedan MT, and a 2011 335is convertible with a DCT.

[s4]...The rear seating is more comfortable and roomier for your legs as the seat bottoms have a better downward angle.
I think most folks are talking about the F30 3-series, not the E9x. I wonder though whether your comment about the back seat still holds true or has the F30 back seat grown enough to be comparable or even bigger than the one in the S4.
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40:60 split in favor of the rear wheels on dry level ground.

Ask a B8 A4 owner how they like changing rear brake pads a laptop and a proprietary Audi cable are required! Ask me how I know (but I borrowed one and still did them myself).
But with that cable you can change various settings, such as steering assist
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Old 10-19-2012, 05:20 PM
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That's not really physically possible. An I-4 will always have secondary imbalance and non-overlapping power strokes, while an I-6 has perfect primary and secondary balance and overlapping power strokes. In terms of smoothness an I-6 is just inherently better than an I-4.
Audi'2 2.0T has counter-balancing shafts, but I don't know to what extent they help.
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I think most folks are talking about the F30 3-series, not the E9x. I wonder though whether your comment about the back seat still holds true or has the F30 back seat grown enough to be comparable or even bigger than the one in the S4.
The F30 has substantially more rear seat room than the B8 chassis A4/S4.
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I6's is what BMW has been doing lately in the US. It was too long ago that 318's were as common as 325's. So we are now basically getting a turbo-charged version of the 318.
Most E36's that I seem to see on the road nowadays are either 325i's or M3's. I don't think I've seen many 318i's. From a longevity standpoint, will the 335i be better? As a highway cruiser, would it be better than the 328i?
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But with that cable you can change various settings, such as steering assist
My A4's power steering pump is already undersized (I need to take it in and get it replaced under the recall). A sore subject.

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