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Old 05-16-2013, 12:48 PM
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Just took my 335i out to the ring last week for the first time... OMG it was amazing! ran an 11:38 the first lap then my second lap got it down to a 10:30...
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Just took my 335i out to the ring last week for the first time... OMG it was amazing! ran an 11:38 the first lap then my second lap got it down to a 10:30...
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I regret so much not going to the Ring during my ED. Stupid me
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A few pics...

here are a few pics... they have freelance photographers all around the ring and they post pics based on dates... I also had a friend taking a few

the car handled amazingly well and I was pleased with the results, that being said it is time for some ACS upgrades

with a few handling upgrades I am pretty confident I can run in the 9:30's... dude, that might not "sound" fast but believe me brother, that's cooking!
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I can run mid 9's I think after I learn the track and a few minor mods...
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:54 PM
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I can run mid 9's I think after I learn the track and a few minor mods...
You don't need mods, you need confidence. The car is likely capable of low 8mins bone stock. So you are the modification needed to get the time down. After you get confident and get down towards the cars capabilities, THEN you mod it to improve your time.

Now if you want to improve your car for other reasons, hell yes-go for it. But in terms of improving on 9:30's, it's not the car that should net you the improvement.
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Why do you have the long front license plate (rather than the wide one)
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Why do you have the long front license plate (rather than the wide one)
It is because its a US Specs car I bought over here, the plate bracket will not take the long plates, and it also blocks the front parking sensors...
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:52 PM
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You don't need mods, you need confidence. The car is likely capable of low 8mins bone stock. So you are the modification needed to get the time down. After you get confident and get down towards the cars capabilities, THEN you mod it to improve your time.

Now if you want to improve your car for other reasons, hell yes-go for it. But in terms of improving on 9:30's, it's not the car that should net you the improvement.
yea, your 100% correct. the record for a bone stock 335i is 8:30'ish. I think that by just learning the track that I can get down into the 9s.. the Ring isn't about top speed, instead its about smooth lines and handling.... and alas, how much traffic you have to deal with on any given Sunday.
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:58 AM
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:37 AM
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You don't need mods, you need confidence. The car is likely capable of low 8mins bone stock. So you are the modification needed to get the time down. After you get confident and get down towards the cars capabilities, THEN you mod it to improve your time.

Now if you want to improve your car for other reasons, hell yes-go for it. But in terms of improving on 9:30's, it's not the car that should net you the improvement.
A better tuned chassis and powerplant can definitely boost driver's confidence. A better tuned auto transmission will also make a less experienced driver look like a better driver, than a more experienced driver with a manual

A stock 335i is widely reported to feel much faster in the street than a base 911. Yet a base 911 has recently made the lap at the Ring in 7:40, a full minute faster than the fastest time made by a stock 335i.

If the goal is to get the best time you can have, a stock 335i is probably not the ideal setup, but the opportunity to drive the Ring in a 335i, or in any decent car, is priceless.

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Old 05-17-2013, 09:51 AM
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A better tuned chassis and powerplant can definitely boost driver's confidence. A better tuned auto transmission will also make a less experienced driver look like a better driver, than a more experienced driver with a manual

A stock 335i is widely reported to feel much faster in the street than a base 911. Yet a base 911 has recently made the lap at the Ring in 7:40, a full minute faster than the fastest time made by a stock 335i.

If the goal is to get the best time you can have, a stock 335i is probably not the ideal setup, but the opportunity to drive the Ring in a 335i, or in any decent car, is priceless.
The Ring is about 12 miles long and very daunting/intimidating.

Knowing it better and gaining confidence will shave more time off sooner than modifying his car.

Once you reach the point where you are getting a consistent time, then you can focus on the attributes of the car. He shaved off 1 minute from one run to the next. High 8's, low 9's, and practice, then I would worry about modifying the CAR to lower MY time.


Wanting to modify the car to feel an improvement on the road is one thing, doing it in order to LOWER the time on the ring with little Ring experience is another.
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Old 05-17-2013, 02:27 PM
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Wanting to modify the car to feel an improvement on the road is one thing, doing it in order to LOWER the time on the ring with little Ring experience is another.
Looks to me the OP may be in an unique position to have both achieved. I don't see why he should not do both but must wait.

Not everyone is interested in mastering the skills of a near professional race car drivers, so the manufactures respond with technologies to help them drive like a pro sooner.

I just did the Porsche World Roadshow at Sonoma Raceway. The laps on the track was short, and the runs were interfered by other drivers who were either not skilled at all, or were not interested in drive fast, rather how nice the different sound systems worked.

Yet it was clear to me anyone who has some basic skills and is a quick learner, can easily look like some kind of pro during the fourth lap, because the sports cars have all the basic racing elements in place, the ecu can anticipate your move and work in your favor.

For the diehard enthusiasts this may sound like a joke, but I had not noticed any participants at the event disappointed.

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yea, your 100% correct. the record for a bone stock 335i is 8:30'ish. I think that by just learning the track that I can get down into the 9s.. .
No doubt. Don't waste your time on mods. If this is something you will be able to do on a regular basis, save your money for frequent tire and brake replacements.

Just to give you something to shoot for in the short term, consider the fact that a 136Hp gigantic van (the kind that has three front bucket seats), which does 0-60mph in 21 seconds, was able to complete the course in slightly over 10 minutes . So you have lots of room to improve your time, foremost by getting familiar with this very long track. Of course, don't feel too bad, because the driver was a pro and essentially grew up on this course:


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Haha! I love that episode. One of the coolest things on Top Gear.

Opso- great you got on the ring. I'm jealous.
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100% Correct

you guys are mostly right, need to trust that car a little more and learn the track. Its a fairly new car to me, only 3.2k miles on her. 6 speed manual Sport edition 335i and it has the 20" P-Zeros on her... the good news is that the track is only about 1.5 hours away and I will be able to head back there a few times... Need to take the wife's C300 out next though

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thanks for the pep-talks and value added input...
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No doubt. Don't waste your time on mods. If this is something you will be able to do on a regular basis, save your money for frequent tire and brake replacements.

Just to give you something to shoot for in the short term, consider the fact that a 136Hp gigantic van (the kind that has three front bucket seats), which does 0-60mph in 21 seconds, was able to complete the course in slightly over 10 minutes . So you have lots of room to improve your time, foremost by getting familiar with this very long track. Of course, don't feel too bad, because the driver was a pro and essentially grew up on this course:

Thanks for the video!

Sabine was actually hired by BMW to drive people around "The Ring" in M5's. They were called taxi's. She's actually an Incredible driver and knows the Ring probably better than anyone on the planet. Google her and watch some of the video's of her. There's some Really good video's of her driving skills.

Also, OpsO, Congrats on getting to drive Nurburgring! That had to ROCK!
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it was amazing for sure, already planning the return trip... Sabine wasn't there that day, but a few of my friends rented the "taxi." They were first on the track after a close so they had open track the whole way, not many cars are catching those M5s with open track in front of them!



there is a link to my video... not to impressive like I said. Im working on a edited version.

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Does anyone have experience with nurburgring on weekends? I'm looking to go on a sunday in august, but not if there's a thousand cars doing the same
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Does anyone have experience with nurburgring on weekends? I'm looking to go on a sunday in august, but not if there's a thousand cars doing the same
make sure its a track day first of all, secondly I am told by friends who have lots of experience, its usually busy no matter what. there are evening track days during the weekdays and they may be your best option. My video was shot on a Friday and it was fairly busy still...


where are you coming in from, will you be driving your own car or renting?
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where are you coming in from, will you be driving your own car or renting?
I'm going to be coming from switzerland and flying out of frankfurt the next day. Driving my new car, only looking to do about 4 laps though.

How long did you have to wait to get on the track?
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I'm going to be coming from switzerland and flying out of frankfurt the next day. Driving my new car, only looking to do about 4 laps though.

How long did you have to wait to get on the track?
4 laps is quite a bit of tear on a stock car... you will need a break between laps for sure, especially if you push it at all... getting on the track is FAST... I expected a long wait but its so smooth... you see on the video that they can pump cars through the gates fairly fast. there are two car gates and one (maybe two) motorcycle gates... took less then 5 minutes to get on form the parking area. the issues are the weather and the crashes... so just be prepared to relax and look at the the "carshow" that is going on all around you. The whole vibe is amazing.
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