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The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

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Old 05-23-2017, 09:40 AM
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F10 530i overheat

Hello all

I've been having a problem lately with my 530i.
Usually the engine temp is about 220, but for the past two weeks its more like 250 all the time (12 oclock position), without any error message, and never exceeding 2500rpm because I do not want to increase the problem.
I had the same problem last year, which disappeared after a coolant fluid change, but now it's started again.
Went to the dealership for another coolant change, but this time no miracle, problem is still there. Bmw says temperature is normal, but they only drove it for 5 miles with a cold engine, so how would they know...

The fan goes on from time to time, but not very strong
I've been observing the moving air admission flaps in front of the car with the engine running and they are always closed. Should they not open with a high temperature ??

Again, no alarm, but I think something is wrong all the same, and I dont want to wait for more trouble.
So I'm thinking preventive maintenance, maybe the thermostat, or changing the radiator or the water pump maybe. It's got 65000 miles on it.

Also when I switch heating on, temp decreases slightly, but I guess that is normal.

Any ideas ?

Sorry for the english, I'm french...

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Old 05-23-2017, 11:28 AM
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I assume as you have been to the dealer that they have found no codes thrown.

From what I have read on here for the last couple of years you may be looking at your thermostat or water pump.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:40 AM
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Nope, no codes...
I think I'll go for the thermostat first, as it is cheaper, then the pump if it does not work out.
It's still under warranty, but as they don't admit there is a problem, it probably won't cover my problem...
Thanks Trian !


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Old 05-23-2017, 11:46 AM
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Normal.
The temp gauge on the F10 reads oil temperature. The oil temp usually reads a tad higher than the coolant temp. The coolant temp is not shown since an oil temp gives a more accurate engine health condition. Coolant temp is around 105c, and you can find that info in your cluster through the hidden display. YouTube F10 hidden menu and you'll find it there.

As long it won't go over 250, you're fine. It sucks that it is allowed to go that high....
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:48 AM
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If your temp on coolant in the hidden message reads at 105, +/-5, it's normal operation.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:54 AM
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If your temp on coolant in the hidden message reads at 105, +/-5, it's normal operation.


Hidden menu ? Now where do I find that ?? Thanks


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Old 05-23-2017, 12:16 PM
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Basically turn the car on, hold the trip button and don't let go of it until the menu shows up. Then go to UNLOCK, put the code in which is the addition of numbers of your VIN. Then go to temperature and monitor from there.
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:48 PM
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Bingo!!***9828;***9828;

On YouTube, type in the search bar "F10 hidden menu" and it gives you the run down.
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:05 PM
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The temperature is high, but it's not dangerously overheating or snything like that. BMW's are known to run hot.

I suggest not to mess with your radiator or water pump until it goes wrong. Many people change that before it's due as preventative maintenance but this often just causes more problems.

Your engine oil starts to break down after 5000 miles and keeps temps higher. If you are past 5000 miles on the oil, change it to 5w40 liqui moly. Then, remove your plastic engine cover. This thing traps heat and removing it will lower temps.

Doing these two things will help bring temps to a more reasonable level.
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Old 05-24-2017, 02:57 AM
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Thank you for some very interesting info ! I'll have the oil changed next week.


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Old 05-24-2017, 06:04 AM
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If you're worried about temps I'd stick to motul or liqui moly 5w40. Removing your plastic engine cover is strongly suggested.
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Old 05-24-2017, 09:02 AM
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You're in France but talk about Fahrenheit °-s and miles. Is your car US origin? My european F11 always shows 12 o'clock sharp. The stupid digital cluster has no numbers but since the needle is right in the middle of the gauge, I figured it should be ok. Looked up the hidden menu today: coolant - 90°C, oil - 100°. That was after city driving. BTW the 5digit sum was not necessary, just a long press got me to the self test.

There's nothing wrong with Motul or LM (have LM Racing in my bike ) but don't expect a miracle from just brand name. Your main benefit will come from the fresh oil with correct specs. More frequent oil changes will do more difference to the engine than searching for the ultimate oil brand.

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Old 05-24-2017, 09:08 AM
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Halfway mark is pretty hot.
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Old 05-24-2017, 09:48 AM
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Half way your mark or my mark? As I wrote - half way my mark actually means 100°C.

E: Correct, mine is diesel, sorry. Is a petrol engine supposed to run a bit cooler than diesel?

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Old 05-24-2017, 10:19 AM
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So I assume you have a Diesel engine then? Not sure about diesels, but the halfway point for a BMW is average. But these vehicles run quite hot.
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Old 05-24-2017, 12:14 PM
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It's a french car but I figured most readers here are from the US, so I converted everything in us units. Ok I found the hidden menu and drove for an hour on the highway. Oil temp steady between 118 and 121 deg, and coolant also remained at 97deg. Only once in a traffic jam did it go up to 105 but then the fan kicked in, and it got back down to 95... So i'm guessing normal right ? Have I been worrying for nothing ? I did order the thermostat i guess i'll keep it for later use. I will definitely change the oil next week though. Thanks again for your help !


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