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Old 02-06-2018, 05:42 PM
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On my first ED, we did Munich and Salzburg as base camps for about a week. This time around I was interested in seeing northern Italy. The plan was to arrive in Munich, spend a couple days, get the car and head south. From there we thought about departing from Nice instead of heading back up to Munich. Lake Como was on list, but I wanted to see what else in that area everyone thought would be worth seeing. I'd like to see Venice -- is it worth a day trip there, or should you really stay at least one night to get the most out of it? Is there a good base camp location that we could park ourselves for most of the time and do day trips out of there (venice, milan, como, etc.)? I like to stay in a hotel for at least two nights and don't enjoy moving to a new place every night like some do.
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Planning on doing something similar in 2020, don't have a lot to offer yet. So far my plan is to drive to Venice, maybe stopping somewhere if the drive it to long. Hoping to take the Grossglockner Alpine Road on the way. I'm thinking I will park the car in this lot.

http://www.flyparkvenezia.it/en/

Then spend a couple days in Venice. Where I differ is I plan to head down to Tuscany. I've been there before. Hopeing to stay somewhere near Castellina In Chianti, good base for Florence and Sienna. A lot of really cool feudal hill top towns near by for day trips. Can't recall all of them, some are San Gimignano, Monteriggioni, Volterra, Radda in Chianti, Montepulciano, etc. Great places to visit even if you are not a wine lover like me.

I was then planning on driving to Lake Como area, staying somewhere on the lake and spending several days on the ferry hitting all the towns.

Munich from there, on the Stelvio Pass.

I also like to find a base for 3-4 days minimum if possible.

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Old 02-07-2018, 05:59 AM
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We stayed at the same nice B&B on both EDs. Near the bus line into Florence and a great local Tuscany local restaurant.
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I agree with mconley3. Tuscany, Florence and Lake Como are all worth a few days. I also think that everyone should see Venice once. I would stay outside Venice for two nights and spend a full day seeing the sights.

Lake Como is a wonderful place to relax. The towns and palaces dotted around the lake could occupy several days of visits by ferry. At a minimum drop by Bellagio and Varrena.

For places to stay I would recommend:

Borgo Argenina for Tuscany, and
Hotel La Perla in Trmezzo, Lake Como

Both places have good parking and also great views.
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Riva del Garda is very nice. Easy links to all the small towns on the lake. Also Baveno and the islands near it are magnificent. Locarno is near by and well worth a visit.
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Asolo; stay here or rent a villa http://www.villaciprianiasolo.com/en/

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Thanks for the tips so far, I'll start digging into these!
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I've been to Lake Como and highly recommend it. I also went through Stelvio Pass on the way there which is an great driving experience. I hear the Dolomites are beautiful too.

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MB, I think that val di funes picture might have sealed the deal on two nights in that area!
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MB, I think that val di funes picture might have sealed the deal on two nights in that area!
Yes - in my view the Dolomites are an absolute must. Stunning scenery and some great mountain roads to drive to boot! Of course, if you like hiking, there's plenty of that as well.

My general view on ED is you should use it to get to places you need a car for. Venice is the opposite of that - you can fly there just as easily (or take train). I'm not saying don't go to Venice, but I would opt to spend time during ED in Dolomites, Lake Como, etc.
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Having family all over northern Italy this area is almost like my second home. On our ED, we stayed in Erbusco, which is about 60Km east of Bergamo. We stay at the L'Albereta its set in the middle of a vineyard in the country easy drive to Bergamo, Milan (which I wouldn't drive into) Lake Como, Venice. Your close to SP510 or SP89 which will take you up into Italian Alps and you can come down through Lake Como. In Lake Como, you can go to Veranna and take the Ferry to another side of the lake or take it down to Bellagio. I would take it to Menaggio then drive down from there. Being based in Northern Italy gives you so many places to see, Bergamo is a place to see, a very old city with lots of history. The drive from Erbusco to Nice is about 4 hours. You could do a day trip to Florance from Erbusco.
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Yes - in my view the Dolomites are an absolute must. Stunning scenery and some great mountain roads to drive to boot! Of course, if you like hiking, there's plenty of that as well.

My general view on ED is you should use it to get to places you need a car for. Venice is the opposite of that - you can fly there just as easily (or take train). I'm not saying don't go to Venice, but I would opt to spend time during ED in Dolomites, Lake Como, etc.
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MB, I think that val di funes picture might have sealed the deal on two nights in that area!
I found this pics on my friend blog and after that it's my dream to get there.
you need Google translator to read description (it's in russian)

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+1 on the Dolomites! We spent a couple of day in Castlerotto last fall on our ED. The views were spectacular.
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How about a nice spot near nice where we can spend two nights before leaving? Or should we stick to areas more east in Italy as much as possible, then spend the night near the aiport before leaving?
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How about a nice spot near nice where we can spend two nights before leaving? Or should we stick to areas more east in Italy as much as possible, then spend the night near the aiport before leaving?
See the end of my ED #2 that puts you in a nice spot between restaurant row on the beach and the airport.
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So I've finally made some decisions and booked some rooms so far. Here's how it is looking. There are places in Italy I'd like to see (Venice, Florence, etc.) but I'm just not interested in doing so much driving in just over a week. I found that staying in one place for 3 nights at least was more relaxing last time.

5/15 - Leave CVG
5/16 - Arrive Munich, Check in Hotel Kriemhild
5/17 - Delivery day!
5/18 - Check out, Leave Munich, arrive Hotel Tyrol in Val di Funes
5/19 - Val di Funes
5/20 - Val di Funes
5/21 - Check out, Leave Hotel Tyrol, Arrive Como, Check in Hotel La Perla (Tremezzo)
5/22 - Como
5/23 - Como
5/24 - Check out, leave Como, Arrive Nice, Check in Novotel
5/25 - Leave NCE
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So I've finally made some decisions and booked some rooms so far. Here's how it is looking...
That looks pretty relaxing and very enjoyable. I'm jealous!
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I like your choice of places and the relaxed pace of your itinerary.

When you get to Lake Como you should park your car and only use ferries to get around the lake. Many of the roads around the lake are too narrow for cars - in my opinion. Also, with ferries, you will not waste time looking for a parking place in the small cities around the lake.
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So I've finally made some decisions and booked some rooms so far. Here's how it is looking. There are places in Italy I'd like to see (Venice, Florence, etc.) but I'm just not interested in doing so much driving in just over a week. I found that staying in one place for 3 nights at least was more relaxing last time.

5/15 - Leave CVG
5/16 - Arrive Munich, Check in Hotel Kriemhild
5/17 - Delivery day!
5/18 - Check out, Leave Munich, arrive Hotel Tyrol in Val di Funes
5/19 - Val di Funes
5/20 - Val di Funes
5/21 - Check out, Leave Hotel Tyrol, Arrive Como, Check in Hotel La Perla (Tremezzo)
5/22 - Como
5/23 - Como
5/24 - Check out, leave Como, Arrive Nice, Check in Novotel
5/25 - Leave NCE
Look like a good vacation. I've driven around Como, the roads are narrow on the western side, but are still driveable.
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Look like a good vacation. I've driven around Como, the roads are narrow on the western side, but are still driveable.
Nice itinerary. My experience is the Eastern "path" around Lake Como was more challenging than the West; especially from Bellagio Southwards
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How about a nice spot near nice where we can spend two nights before leaving? Or should we stick to areas more east in Italy as much as possible, then spend the night near the airport before leaving?
Villefranche-sur-Mer

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Was highlighter of our ED for sure.
Next time we will avoid Nice and stay in Villefranche-sur-mer.
Movie "Ronin" was taped there.
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The La Perla is about one mile up the hill from from the lake. We had a very nice view from our room. I think that all rooms have the lake view but, if the view is important to you, you might want to check.

The hotel runs a minibus down to the ferry dock in the morning and back to the hotel in the afternoon. They have sign up sheets for the minibus near the dining room. So you do not have to drive your car.

They have open air parking that is right next to the hotel entrance. They also have a garage that is accessible by elevator. We used the open air parking as it seemed more convenient, I don't think there is any charge for either parking choice.
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Thanks guys. It's great having this resource here and being able to go into these excursions informed!
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