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The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

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I find running 20's on rwd is a lot different than 19's, anyone else agree?
So right now my 2014 535i RWD has 245/45 R18XL tires. Specifically "Continental Conti Sport Contact 3E SSR 96Y Radial Tubeless"...on it when I purchased it 2 months ago.

My questions are: is 19" better on my car than 18", and is 20" better than 19"? If yes, is a 40 or 35 width also better to go with? Would 20" be the max my car could accommodate?

If I change my stock wheels, and some of the photos you guys are posting have me thinking seriously about it, I'm interested if there is a consensus best size to get, or various opinions because there's no right answer.
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Hmmm, ok, Take 2: What is the best size 3 season tire for an F10/N55, in your opinion?
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Technically the "best" size is what the manufacturer installed. The suspension is designed around a certain tire/wheel weight and offset.

That said, the "best" is whatever you like and what compromises you're willing to make.
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I've got 18" wheels, but perusing the posts it seems most guys have 19 or 20s. But I guess they have the M-sport version.
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20" wheels are a terrible idea in my opinion. The tires offer almost no sidewall and those will likely cause your car to ride too stiff for comfort. And personally, I think a tire should have some sidewall visible. 20" wheels make a car look like it should come in Matchbox packaging (in my humble opinion). For those that love their 20's.....to each their own.

The 19" wheels that come on the M Sport are a good compromise where you end up with a low profile tire that gives you good handling and some cushion. Still, from a comfort standpoint, they leave a lot to be desired. The lack of sidewall compared to 18" wheels yields a firm ride and a rim that is prone to bending. Many of the early reviews of the G30 that I read when it came out mentioned that the cars with 18" wheels were noticeably more comfortable in every day driving. Still, BMW obviously believes that it is the right wheel size for their "sport" version.

I personally like the sidewall ratio on my 19" wheels.

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19's look great. We have very similar cars, so if you are ever in Beacon Hill (Seattle) let me know. Can swing by and take look.

*19's BMW OEM bend like cheese though. Already had to straighten all 4 wheels.
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Technically the "best" size is what the manufacturer installed. The suspension is designed around a certain tire/wheel weight and offset.

That said, the "best" is whatever you like and what compromises you're willing to make.

Flatland328's response explains what you mean about compromises. 19" sound like a good compromise if I make a change. Hopefully my suspension could accommodate them.
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20" wheels are a terrible idea in my opinion. The tires offer almost no sidewall and those will likely cause your car to ride too stiff for comfort. And personally, I think a tire should have some sidewall visible. 20" wheels make a car look like it should come in Matchbox packaging (in my humble opinion). For those that love their 20's.....to each their own.

The 19" wheels that come on the M Sport are a good compromise where you end up with a low profile tire that gives you good handling and some cushion. Still, from a comfort standpoint, they leave a lot to be desired. The lack of sidewall compared to 18" wheels yields a firm ride and a rim that is prone to bending. Many of the early reviews of the G30 that I read when it came out mentioned that the cars with 18" wheels were noticeably more comfortable in every day driving. Still, BMW obviously believes that it is the right wheel size for their "sport" version.

I personally like the sidewall ratio on my 19" wheels.

Thanks for the informative response. 19" tires sounded desirable from a handling standpoint, because I drive mainly in the Sport mode and live in an area with lots of fun twisting roads. But I'd be pretty unhappy if rims started bending.
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I would use your current stockies for winter tire duty.

the best is OEM spec for the 10 which follows as:

245/40/r19

look for some lightweight 19 inch rims and they will perform great. you can fit 20's no problem, but they will feel heavy and ride quality will start to degrade too much by this point.
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19's look great. We have very similar cars, so if you are ever in Beacon Hill (Seattle) let me know. Can swing by and take look.

*19's BMW OEM bend like cheese though. Already had to straighten all 4 wheels.
Thank you for the kind offer. The 19s do look great, another reason why I was considering them if I switch to different wheels. But wheels bending like cheese?...geeze! Suddenly multiple warnings posted about this issue have me thinking my 18s ain't so bad!
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I would use your current stockies for winter tire duty.

the best is OEM spec for the 10 which follows as:

245/40/r19

look for some lightweight 19 inch rims and they will perform great. you can fit 20's no problem, but they will feel heavy and ride quality will start to degrade too much by this point.
That's a great idea. But do they have rims with a no bend guarantee?
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Thank you for the kind offer. The 19s do look great, another reason why I was considering them if I switch to different wheels. But wheels bending like cheese?...geeze! Suddenly multiple warnings posted about this issue have me thinking my 18s ain't so bad!
I think it depends on the amount and depth of the potholes that is the issue. I have had my stock 19 inchers for over 3 1/2 months and have hit more potholes than I would like. I constantly scan for potholes and deteriorated asphalt/concrete surfaces and avoid them at all costs. I actually hit a rather deep one a few weeks ago with no ill effects.



I just checked... The 19" wheels are each about 5# heavier than the 18" wheel.
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That's a great idea. But do they have rims with a no bend guarantee?
I put some style 269 rims on my car and it looks amazing. Never expected rims that never even Came with my car to look this good.

With that being said, if you buy genuine OEM rims, avoid potholes and have a sidewall of 40+ You're not going to get any bent rims
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If you're happy with the comfort and handling of the car now, beware of going to larger 19" wheels (and tires). While I have the X3 with 18" wheels, I was provided a similar X3 loaner, but with 19's. The change in ride (considerably harsher) was clearly apparent and RF tires certainly don't help. Please note that I am not arguing appearance of one wheel over another, since that is clearly subjective. There are numerous postings on this site about larger rims, but don't recall seeing the measurable advantages (0 - 60 and/or track times) of 19" and 20" wheels and tires over 18's. As someone stated above, OEM rims of a certain size are installed by the factory for good reason and are probably the best compromise of style, comfort, durability and manufacturing cost.
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I think I'm going to go over to my local dealer and drive some 19s and see/feel what it's like. You guys have given me a lot to consider in the decision making process and I appreciate it.
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If you're happy with the comfort and handling of the car now, beware of going to larger 19" wheels (and tires). While I have the X3 with 18" wheels, I was provided a similar X3 loaner, but with 19's. The change in ride (considerably harsher) was clearly apparent and RF tires certainly don't help. Please note that I am not arguing appearance of one wheel over another, since that is clearly subjective. There are numerous postings on this site about larger rims, but don't recall seeing the measurable advantages (0 - 60 and/or track times) of 19" and 20" wheels and tires over 18's. As someone stated above, OEM rims of a certain size are installed by the factory for good reason and are probably the best compromise of style, comfort, durability and manufacturing cost.
Keep in mind that the 19 inch rim size for the f10 is quite common... even my 18's look small onnthe car let alone 18's. I would not go less or more then 19 for this particular vehicle.. be sure to get a lightweight rim so performance does not degrade and at least a 40 sidewall tire.

Coming from my stock 225/55/r17 rims, Driving over potholes is not as bad as you think, but there's 100% some extra impact harshness. You gotta be careful over the bad potholes or you'll cringe.
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Keep in mind that the 19 inch rim size for the f10 is quite common... even my 18's look small onnthe car let alone 18's. I would not go less or more then 19 for this particular vehicle.. be sure to get a lightweight rim so performance does not degrade and at least a 40 sidewall tire.

Coming from my stock 225/55/r17 rims, Driving over potholes is not as bad as you think, but there's 100% some extra impact harshness. You gotta be careful over the bad potholes or you'll cringe.
I bet most F10 owners have 19" wheels. Potholes are a low priority when it comes to government spending, so it's a universal problem. I'm constantly scanning for them but I don't think that's in my wife's wheelhouse. I'm going to aim for them when I test drive some 19s and see what it's like.
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I bet most F10 owners have 19" wheels. Potholes are a low priority when it comes to government spending, so it's a universal problem. I'm constantly scanning for them but I don't think that's in my wife's wheelhouse. I'm going to aim for them when I test drive some 19s and see what it's like.
IIRC from the factory M-Sports have 19" wheels, base/luxury 550/535's have 18" and (base/luxury) 528's have 17'.
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I have a 19" staggered summer setup and 18" square for winter and the latter is by far the more comfortable. The 19" are due to back on the F10 and, despite the fact they look much better, I'm not looking forward to it from a comfort point of view. As for handling, yes the 19" are better, but I'd have to be 'really' pushing before the 19" started to make a big difference.
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I have a 19" staggered summer setup and 18" square for winter and the latter is by far the more comfortable. The 19" are due to back on the F10 and, despite the fact they look much better, I'm not looking forward to it from a comfort point of view. As for handling, yes the 19" are better, but I'd have to be 'really' pushing before the 19" started to make a big difference.
19's barely fit the wheelwell as it is unfortunately..

Coming from 55/r17 sh*t tires the car felt significantly more sporty. Over really rough roads it's kinda awful, but on smooth pavement it rides like heaven. Made the ride feel so much sportier
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My wife will be pissed if I create a harsher ride...which I can endure if the performance is notably better.
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My wife will be pissed if I create a harsher ride...which I can endure if the performance is notably better.
19s feel sportier simply because they're a harder and tauter ride, but I doubt that real world handling is much better unless you're trying to set a new lap record at the Nürburgring.
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Your mileage will also drop due to the heavier wheels.
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Your mileage will also drop due to the heavier wheels.
That's like saying that your fuel economy will be worse with a Full tank of gas because the car will be slightly heavier. There will not be such a huge difference.

You can find very lightweight 19 inch rims for the record.

My car came with style 327 rims from The factory. Very heavy for a 17 inch rim. My 19 inch style 269 rims are only slightly heavier so I noticed no difference in efficiency or performance when putting them on.
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