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F10 535i vs 535i xdrive help?

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I'm looking to pick up a F10 535i (2013-2015) M Package after this Rona. Was wondering if anyone had suggestions about the difference between 535i and 535i xdrive and why purchase one over the other? I noticed the xdrive has dual pipes....

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The xdrive will not have the same M Sport Package suspension as the 2WD version (the 2 wheel drive version has staggered wheel set up - rears wider than fronts) and won't handled quite as well. My '15 535i with the M Sport Package has dual exhausts.
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The xdrive will not have the same M Sport Package suspension as the 2WD version (the 2 wheel drive version has staggered wheel set up - rears wider than fronts) and won't handled quite as well. My '15 535i with the M Sport Package has dual exhausts.
Oh nice! This helps out tremendously!

Did you lower the car? If so what springs did you go with?
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Hi All

I'm looking to pick up a F10 535i (2013-2015) M Package after this Rona. Was wondering if anyone had suggestions about the difference between 535i and 535i xdrive and why purchase one over the other? I noticed the xdrive has dual pipes....

Any suggestions would be great.

Thanks!
Usually the 535 xdrive is for 4 season locations, while the 535i is the majority of the cars in Florida, as it is only 1 season (maybe 1.5?). Part of the reason is the weight difference, and you don't really need 4-wheel drive in Florida
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xDrive adds about 200 pounds. There also can be some huge repair costs when you start getting near 100k miles: transfer case ($4k), front driveshafts ($1000+ each).

At least 2/3's of the new BMW SUV's sold in Florida are sDrives (2WD).

If you're buying a used xDrive from a dealer, there's a good chance it's been up north and exposed to road salt.
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In California, even if we don't have snow ( unless periodical trips up in Tahoe or anywhere in Sierra !!!) in my opinion an Xi handles much better. Driving through all this winding canyons and hills here in Northern Cali makes the Xi really shine.
On your flat, straight roads, and bridges There is no need for it I guess.
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Thanks for all the help!
I believe I'm sold on just getting the 535i (2 wheel drive), you guys made valid points.
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The F10 got refreshed ("LCI in BMW lingo) for the 2014 model year. But, the early 2014's with M Sport Package did not have the sport suspension (option code 704). I recall 704 came with M Sport Package starting with September 2013 production. There were a couple of months of MY2014 production before that.

I was surprise to see the KBB private sale price for an xDrive 535i was about $500 more than an sDrive 535i in Miami. I would have expected the opposite, because people would want to avoid those xDrive maintenance costs later on.
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The F10 got refreshed ("LCI in BMW lingo) for the 2014 model year. But, the early 2014's with M Sport Package did not have the sport suspension (option code 704). I recall 704 came with M Sport Package starting with September 2013 production. There were a couple of months of MY2014 production before that.

I was surprise to see the KBB private sale price for an xDrive 535i was about $500 more than an sDrive 535i in Miami. I would have expected the opposite, because people would want to avoid those xDrive maintenance costs later on.
When purchasing how can I check to make that is has the latest code? If buying a 2014.
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When purchasing how can I check to make that is has the latest code? If buying a 2014.
Google "BMW VIN decoder." There are a bunch of sites. I'm not sure which is best or worst.

There are a lot of "internal options" that don't show up on the window sticker, but do show up on the "broadcast sheet." "704" is the option code for the sport suspension.
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Google "BMW VIN decoder." There are a bunch of sites. I'm not sure which is best or worst.

There are a lot of "internal options" that don't show up on the window sticker, but do show up on the "broadcast sheet." "704" is the option code for the sport suspension.
Let's say I do find a good deal on 2014 and it doesn't have the upgrade. Does it matter if I'm planning on changing the suspension anyway?
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Avoid xdrive since you are in FL. We see more issues with xdrive owners.
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Let's say I do find a good deal on 2014 and it doesn't have the upgrade. Does it matter if I'm planning on changing the suspension anyway?
"704" might include stiffer anti-roll bars. I'm not sure, since I have the Dynamic Handling Package (adjustable shocks and active anti-roll).

F10's didn't come with a spare tire, and had run-flats standard (except the M5). You can improve the ride greatly with non-run-flat tires. The dirty little secret is that you really need a spare tire for road trips, even with run-flats.

ECS Tuning offers a spare wheel and tire, with and without a spacer (for staggered set-ups).

https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-F10-53...ergency_Spare/



BMW sold a spare in foreign countries that required spare tires on cars. Some companies sell a jury rig with a steel spare rim off of an X5. But, get the alloy rim that fits the F10, and a BMW jack.
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Why buy a more complex car when it doesn't snow in FL PLUS as another person mentioned it could be from the frozen North!
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Why buy a more complex car when it doesn't snow in FL PLUS as another person mentioned it could be from the frozen North!
I'm just asking and doing my research. The last 5 Series i had was in early 2000's. Most of my money goes towards my Motorcycle Racing.
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x drive

A very good way to spend $$$$$$$$$$
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Look for a manual f10 the resale value is good on them because they are pretty rare. Go RWD as Xdrive f10 loves to eat up front axels. See over a dozen with in a year at the shop
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Avoid the extra costs of x drive. You should also check if this engine is suspected of having the dreaded timing chain issue.
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Avoid the extra costs of x drive. You should also check if this engine is suspected of having the dreaded timing chain issue.
Timing chain issues in the N55??
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Timing chain issues in the N55??


Evidently no timing chain issues with the N55. It does appear to have direct injection so cleaning of the inlet valves, manifold and valves will need periodic cleaning.


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Evidently no timing chain issues with the N55. It does appear to have direct injection so cleaning of the inlet valves, manifold and valves will need periodic cleaning.


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Nothing like the N54, though. Probably every 150K miles or so. The N54 needs it every 35K to 40K miles.
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