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Old 08-24-2019, 06:53 PM
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Just another FYI in case it was overlooked. The gear shift lever can be pushed into N from D without having to press the safety button (just like the old BMW gear shift levers prior to the new "joy stick" versions. So don't fear that you're going to push the lever into reverse if you found yourself needing to disengage from the transmission. If you don't press the button, the gear shift will stop in N.

But to get back into D...you do need to press the safety button.

And also...to actually turn the ENGINE OFF (when you're in motion)...you have to move out of D and put the gear shift in NEUTRAL...then press the START/STOP button once to kill the engine...then press the STOP/START button again and the parking brake will come on. (I recommend waiting until your speed has slowed down (unless you're heading for a brick wall or cliff) because as mentioned above...I was only doing about 20 MPH and was already coasting from the 1st press...then when I did the 2nd press of the START button...the car bogged down to a stop real quick.
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Old 08-24-2019, 10:47 PM
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Just another FYI in case it was overlooked. The gear shift lever can be pushed into N from D without having to press the safety button (just like the old BMW gear shift levers prior to the new "joy stick" versions. So don't fear that you're going to push the lever into reverse if you found yourself needing to disengage from the transmission. If you don't press the button, the gear shift will stop in N.

But to get back into D...you do need to press the safety button.

And also...to actually turn the ENGINE OFF (when you're in motion)...you have to move out of D and put the gear shift in NEUTRAL...then press the START/STOP button once to kill the engine...then press the STOP/START button again and the parking brake will come on. (I recommend waiting until your speed has slowed down (unless you're heading for a brick wall or cliff) because as mentioned above...I was only doing about 20 MPH and was already coasting from the 1st press...then when I did the 2nd press of the START button...the car bogged down to a stop real quick.

You sir, are more brave than I am... I was expecting something bad to happen, so I acted with urgency


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Old 08-25-2019, 04:02 AM
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Just another FYI in case it was overlooked. The gear shift lever can be pushed into N from D without having to press the safety button (just like the old BMW gear shift levers prior to the new "joy stick" versions. So don't fear that you're going to push the lever into reverse if you found yourself needing to disengage from the transmission. If you don't press the button, the gear shift will stop in N. But to get back into D...you do need to press the safety button
That's very correct

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And also...to actually turn the ENGINE OFF (when you're in motion)...you have to move out of D and put the gear shift in NEUTRAL...then press the START/STOP button once to kill the engine...then press the STOP/START button again and the parking brake will come on. (I recommend waiting until your speed has slowed down (unless you're heading for a brick wall or cliff) because as mentioned above...I was only doing about 20 MPH and was already coasting from the 1st press...then when I did the 2nd press of the START button...the car bogged down to a stop real quick.
This is really my concern; getting into Park P so quickly while still at some speed may not be so good for the transmission.

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Old 08-25-2019, 11:37 AM
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From what I understand, the zf trans will not go into park until you are stopped.
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Old 09-04-2019, 06:05 AM
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From what I understand, the zf trans will not go into park until you are stopped.
Good point...I agree that it was braking action that brought the car to a stop...it didn't feel like the transmission was being jammed into PARK (which would probably damage the parking pawl {if these modern BMWs even have one}).

Braking, in this situation, is probably the same operation as the Auto-H and Parking brake activation (see info below). As long as the car is moving, the hydraulic brakes (DSC) is slowing momentum...then when the car stops, the electro-mechanical parking brake is applied (how this is done varies by build date):


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I believe that the selection of Park will be refused until some low speed higher than zero stopped. I believe also that ZF still uses a 'pawl'.
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